Ericsson vs. Nokia. Neos gyros

[NeTeD]

Mia nea anametrhsh ksekinaei kai polloi apo emas opws ki egw isws na ana8ewrhsoume tis apopseis mas sxetika me ton xwro. <P>H mia plevra erxetai me thn synexeia twn gnwstwn ths seirwn 63xx 83xx 92xx, ka8ws kai to parakseno amfilegomeno poikilwn antidrasewn prwtotypo 5510 !<BR>H allh plevra erxetai me ena neo entelws proswpo, eponomazomenh pleon Sony Ericsson, proetoimasmenh na xtypisei sovara tin prwth se olh thn merida ths agoras kai oxi mono sthn merida twn epagelmatiwn.<P>Mias kai anhkw sthn merida ths neanikhs agoras, kai oxi se ayth tou epaggelmatia pou ta 8elei ola, 8a epikentrw8w sta kinhta pou apeythinontai sto neaniko koino, kai sygekrimena sta 6310-8310-5510-t65.<P>Oi kriseis gia arxh:<P><BR> <BR>6310: Mia anava8mish tou 6210 me enswmatwmenes tis nees texnologies opws GPRS, Bluetooth ktl. Elpizoume na exei kanei kai kamia allagh sto software <P><BR> <BR>8310: Mikroulh me mnhmh san tou 6310(150+ sms), me enswmatwsh GPRS kai integrated radio tuner. Paraksena xrwmata pou proswpika de me syginoun. Prospa8ei na peisei to koino kyriws me to design tou.<P><BR> <BR>5510: To highlight tou kinhtou toulaxiston gia mena einai to mp3+radio player. Kai to plhktrologio vevaia leei arketa, alla opws kai na to kanoume, to kinhto einai enas mikros ogkoli8os pou 8ymizei game gear. H othoni paramenei idia kati pou de me eyxaristei idiaitera. Proxeirh kai viastikh douleia kata th gnwmh mou afou tha mporouse me ligh prosoxh na ginei mia apsogh syskevoula. Gia thn wra monh periptwsh na to apokthsw einai na to kerdisw sto Nokia Game <P>Edw para8etw merika provlimata pou mou parousiase to 6210 mou. De lew, tromera megalh mnhmh(500 kataxwrhseis ston thl. katalogo + 180 mhnymata) alla apthn allh seeernetai..<P>1. Insert Sim Card ksafnika.<BR>2. Restart apo mono tou. (zhlevei apto pc)<BR>3. Ma giati freezare? (vgalsimo mpatarias)<BR>4. Giati eklise mono tou enw einai 1 mhnos kai h mpataria oute pou kounaei??<BR>4. Giati erxontai mhnymata kai oute xtypaei, oute deixnei tipota sthn othoni?? (ayto eftiakse mono tou meta apo 2 vdomades)<BR>5. Pou phge h donhsh ksafnika?! (ki ayto to idio)<BR>6. GIATI NA YPARXEI H ALPHA COPY? (ayth de diorthonetai pote)<P>Meta apo ola ayta, einai dynaton na empisteftw pali tin Nokia? <P>Edw kai 2 xronia anhkw stous xrhstes kinhtwn Nokia (6150, 6210). Olo ayton ton kairo apefevga ta erricson logw mikrhs kyriws othonis, kathisterishs twn menu, dyskolh syggrafh mhnymatwn, eleipsh genikhs epoptikothtas kai genikoterhs dysxreistias. Kati arxise na diorthonetai apo to t28 kai meta xwris omws na me syginei idiaitera.<BR>Mexri pou eida to T65 <P><BR> <BR>T65 loipon..<BR>Othoni teras, 4 apoxrwsewn tou gri kai me apsogh analysh, panemorfo, grhgora menu, mege8os ligo megalytero apo 8210, 90kati grammaria, no more bugs, yperevelikta menu, shortcuts, thl. katalogos pollaplwn pediwn, plhrws parametropoihsimo, kai kyriws AKSIOPISTO SERVICE.<BR>Timh? 107.000 metrhtois, 36.000 me xrewsh logariasmou sthn pistwtikh karta. Synolo me ta pagia gyrw stis 80.000drx.<BR>Pistevw oti to kinhto tha ginei best seller. Rixnei sta aytia tou 6310 me timh aisthita mikroterh!<BR>Epishs xwris na eimai sigouros, nomizw oti mesa sthn syskevasia perilamvanetai kai kalwdio syndeshs me PC mazi me to software gia plhrh diaxeirhsh tou kinhtou!!!<BR>Mono tou isws meionekthma, den exei bluetooth kai yperithres.<BR>Dokimaste to virtually edw: <A HREF="http://www.sonyericssonmobile.com/T65/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.sonyericssonmobile.com/T65/</A><P>Syzhthsh apokleistika gia to T65 kai entypwseis, edw: <A HREF="http://www.unwired.gr/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bcf44844fb5ffff;act=ST;f=4;t=328;st=0" TARGET=_blank>http://www.unwired.gr/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?s=3bcf44844fb5ffff;act=ST;f=4;t=328;st=0</A> <P>Mpravo sthn ericsson!<P>Perimenw tis apopseis sas <p>[ 19-10-2001: Message edited by: NeTeD ]

[billdanos]

Neted an kai to xekinhses kala, sto telos mou ta halases. An katalava kala eisai fan ths ericsson alla as mhn ftanoume kai se ypervoles. To oti sygrineis to T65 me to 6310 den nomizw oti einai logiko. To 6310 einai ena pragmatiko ergaleio gia kapoion pou thelei ena "sovaro" phone! Enw to T65 mallon einai gia autous pou theloun na to deihnoun stous allous kai na lene: "koita ehei kai pasientza..." H othonh tou den einai kai toso teras mias kai panw panw ehei ta eikonidia tou menu... To oti einai panemorfo to syzhtame (emena den mou aresei). "No more bugs"...To eheis doulepsei???<BR> To oti pithanws epeses se problhmatiko nokia, de shmainei oti ola einai etsi... Gnwrizw poly kosmo pou ehei 62xx klp kai einai kati parapanw apo enthousiasmenoi! (ennoeite oti oloi autoi den to agorasan gia na paizoun games kai na to vazoun na htypaei me tragoudia tou ...Ntalara ). Na eleges gia ta 3310 & 3330 oti vghkan mapa, tha to dehomouna eyharistws! <BR>Proswpika thewrw to 6310 ena apo ta pio omorfa phones kai mallon tha einai o diadohos tou 7110 mou, to opoio meta apo 2 shedon hronia leitourgei akomh opws thn prwth mera pou to agorasa.<BR> An yparhei kapoio phone ths ericsson to opoio isws na travhxei thn prosohi mou, tha einai to T68 otan kykloforhsei. Epishs mou arese kai to Z7 ths sony (an to lew swsta) to opoio tha kykloforhsei prosehws.<BR>Asheto: To oti to T65 den ehei bluetooth to perases sta psila! Prin ligo kairo kathgorousan th nokia oti emeine pisw kai den eihe bluetooth sta phones... <P>

[spybol]

Egw omws na pw ta exhs:<BR>ok to 6310 einai ergaleio, alla kai to r520 ths ericsson htan ergaleio kai bghke apo ton febrouario omws htan megalo opws kai to 6310 einai pantofla gia mena!! etsi loipon pairneis to t39 pou einai ergaleio, exei ta panta panw tou einai poly mikro , arketa fthino pleon,(92+fpa xwris synedsh) elafrotato kai me kataplhktikh aytonomia mpatarias... kai rwtaw ena logo gia na pareis to 6310!! ma fysika mono i porwsh me ta nokia!antithetos an kai den mou aresei emena katholou tha katalabo kapoion pou tou aresei to 8310 giati einai mazemeno thlefwno kai mikrouli.. Epishs les oti sou trabaei tin prosoxh to bluetooth(emena den me noiazei katholou) apo tin allh thes to sonyz7. Wraia ayto den exei oute bluetooth oute gprs...Re paidia fetos i ericsson edeixe poly kales syskeyes, kamai sxesh me ta prohgoumena eth.. as min lemen oti theloume einai mprosta apo tin nokia toulaxiston gia tis syskeyes pou tha bgoun mesa sto 2001. Kai gia kapoion pou den thelei ericsson as paei apo siemens meria pou kanei kataplhktika bhmata kai ayth..To motorola v66 exei to perifhmo ananewmeno software pou pali den exei tipota, krima giati to kinhto einai poly kalo an exairesoume to tomea software..Telos i xeiroterh syskeyh pou eida na bgainei twra einai to panasonic gd95, to kinhto pou ektos apo ton othoni 11 grammwn kai to megethos pyraylou den exei tipota apo tis nees texnologies alal exei tin timh twn ypoloipon.<P>Oso gia to t65 ta sxetika sites lene gia ena kalo tilefwno xwris ta bug pou eixan ta pohgoumena ericsson.. epishs exei poly kalh timh (83+fpa xwris syndesh) kai apeythinetai sto neaniko koino.. i timh tha pesei kiallo mexri tis giortes.Kai afou kanoume sygkrish nokia-ericsson rwtaw i nokia ti exei se ayth tin timh? tipota akoma..to 3330 eiani ligo fthinotero alla sygkrinetai se dynatothtes-diastaseis-baros-texnologia me to t65? as perimenoume tin nea lineup tis nokia kai to xanasyzhtame..alla ayth tin stigmh (kai milaw gia TWRA oxi gia to ti tha ginei se 6 mhne spou den xerw) i ericsson exei super syskeyes mprosta ston antagwnismo.

[billdanos]

Vasika den diafwnw se osa les, apla gia mena to megethos mias syskevhs den einai to prwto kritirio gia na thn agorasw. PX to 7110 an kai megalo, me to pou to eida kollhsa kai to agorasa.

[NeTeD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billdanos:<BR><STRONG>Neted an kai to xekinhses kala, sto telos mou ta halases. An katalava kala eisai fan ths ericsson alla as mhn ftanoume kai se ypervoles.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Den eimai me kanenan! Eimai me oti eksyphretei kalytera tis anages mou! <BR>Dyo xronia eixa Nokia giati ta thewrousa anwtera, enw twra mporei gia 2 xronia na exw to t65 to opoio ektimw oti me volevei parapanw apton antagwnismo!<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR><STRONG>To oti sygrineis to T65 me to 6310 den nomizw oti einai logiko.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Sygrinw to t65 me to 6210 kai katepektash me to 6310 pou panw katw idia tha einai vash twn texnikwn xarakthristikwn, apo to opoio den exei na zhlepsei tipota to t65 ektos apto bluetooth.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR><STRONG>H othonh tou den einai kai toso teras mias kai panw panw ehei ta eikonidia tou menu... To oti einai panemorfo to syzhtame (emena den mou aresei). "No more bugs"...To eheis doulepsei???<BR> To oti pithanws epeses se problhmatiko nokia, de shmainei oti ola einai etsi... Gnwrizw poly kosmo pou ehei 62xx klp kai einai kati parapanw apo enthousiasmenoi! (ennoeite oti oloi autoi den to agorasan gia na paizoun games kai na to vazoun na htypaei me tragoudia tou ...Ntalara ). Na eleges gia ta 3310 & 3330 oti vghkan mapa, tha to dehomouna eyharistws!</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>H othoni tou mporei na mhn einai kai toso teras oso les, alla mh ksexnas oti exei megalyterh analysh me apotelesma na apeikonizontai perissotera stoixeia.<P>Sxetika me to no more bugs, krinw apo ta paliotera kinhta ths ericsson. Ektos ki an ksafnika h Nokia estrwse, kai h ericsson egine epirephs sta bugs.<BR>Provlhmata se nokia pantws de nomizw na hmoun o monos pou antimetwpiza <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR><STRONG>To 6310 einai ena pragmatiko ergaleio gia kapoion pou thelei ena "sovaro" phone! Enw to T65 mallon einai gia autous pou theloun na to deihnoun stous allous kai na lene: "koita ehei kai pasientza..."</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>To 6310 ti parapanw exei pou to kanei pio sovaro kinhto? An ekseresoume to bluetooth tote oi dynatothes einai idies, kai me ena mp3 module gia to t65(+45.000 opote erxomaste sta lefta twn nokia kinhtwn) akous kai ton Ntalara sou se mp3 <P>Ase pou to enswmatomeno kalwdio mazi me software sthn syskevasia tou kinhtou einai kati parapanw apo eyxaristh ekplhksh.<P>Kai gia na eimaste kai ligo dikaioi, sxetika me tis melwdies kai tis pasientzes, h nokia pisw paei? Alla ayta ta stoixeia de kanoun ena kinhto kako. Apti stigmh pou ikanopoiei tis anages kapoiou atomou, tote otidhpote parapanw einai eyprosdekto <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR><STRONG>Proswpika thewrw to 6310 ena apo ta pio omorfa phones kai mallon tha einai o diadohos tou 7110 mou, to opoio meta apo 2 shedon hronia leitourgei akomh opws thn prwth mera pou to agorasa</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Edw de mporw na pw tipota.. ka8ara 8ema goustou <p>[ 19-10-2001: Message edited by: NeTeD ]

[Επισκέπτης]

Loipon gia na mhn polylogoume eimai enas eftyxhsmenos katoxos nokia 3330, alla efxaristws tha ginomouna katoxos enos ericsson <BR>mhn me vazete na ekshgw analytika giati apla me to 3330 an kai exei apodeixtei katadromeas (exei faei kati savoures)parolo afta, eimqi ericssonakias (akomh doulevw ta T10 kai pf68 aneta, tha kanw to idio me to 3330 giati to 3210 hdh exei pa8ei to fog me thn o8onh )

[MikeNuke]

Loipon paidia apo oti blepw mallon den exete anakalipsei to T68!!!<P>Gia na alaksete gnwmh merikoi gia tin Ericsson...kai gia na pwrotheite osoi tin goustarete!<P> <P> <A HREF="http://www2.sonyericssonmobile.com/T68/" TARGET=_blank>http://www2.sonyericssonmobile.com/T68/</A>

[billdanos]

Safws kai to ehoume anakalypsei edw kai para poly kairo. Perimenoume na to doume apo konta kai na doume kai thn timh tou epishs.

[runner1]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billdanos:<BR><STRONG>Safws kai to ehoume anakalypsei edw kai para poly kairo. Perimenoume na to doume apo konta kai na doume kai thn timh tou epishs. </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oson afora to T-68 mono ena pragma sas leo:einai to kalytero kinito pou exei bgalei h ericsson(san synolo dynatotiton mmegethous k.a ennow gia na min me pareksigisei<BR>kanenas) kai oxi mono.Mexri tora kamia etaireia oute h nokia oute h siemens den exoun bgalei tetio kinito oute prokeitai toulaxiston gia arketous mines!!Kai gia kapious pou tha poune oti to leo ayto epeidi eimai fanatikos ericsoonakias gia ayto to leo tous leo mono ena pragma:den eimai fanatikos me kamia marka aplos eimai antikeimenikos kai koitao panta to symferon mou.Oson afora tin timi ema8a oti h syskeyh "sketi" tha kostizei 202.000.Poly kalh timh gia ayto to kinito!!

[billdanos]

An ontws kanei 200.000 tha einai psilokala (dhladh peripou 150.000 me syndesh). An kai me liga akomh pairnw to 9210 pou einai safws kalytero (an exaireseis to megethos).<BR>Anyway! Eidwmen.<BR>

[runner1]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billdanos:<BR><STRONG>An ontws kanei 200.000 tha einai psilokala (dhladh peripou 150.000 me syndesh). An kai me liga akomh pairnw to 9210 pou einai safws kalytero (an exaireseis to megethos).<BR>Anyway! Eidwmen.<BR> </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oxi kai liga akomi.Ektos an gia se na oi 100.000 einai liges.Pantos to 9210 gia ta lefta tou,to megethos tou kai gia ta polla bugs poy exei den symferei.An sto mellon diorthosoun ta bugs tou kai meiosoun tin timi tou se poio logika epipeda tote paizetai.Pantos tha protimousa to Siemens SX-45 an eperna kinito pou na htan kai pda.MPoly kalytero megethos kai sxedio,kalyteri timi,ligotera bugs kai to shmantikotero SOSTO SERVICE!!!!Pantos to T-68 tha paei poly kala apo poliseis opos kai ola ta kainouria kinita tis ericsson akta tin gnomi mou (h opoia beba mporei na bgei kai lathos sto mellon).Perimenoume tis ekselikseis.

[runner1]

Gia tin akribeia kostizei to 9210 329000!!!!130000 akribotero apo to T-68 kai 100000 apo to SX-45.Kai kati allo.H timi tou T-68 einai tsekarismeni kai ontos toso tha kanei stin elliniki agora.Pantos poly kalh h timh gia ayta pou prosferei.

[runner1]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by billdanos:<BR><STRONG>E oxi kai polla bugs to 9210! Mhn leme kai oti theloume! Kai fysika den ehoun shesh oi dynatothtes tou me autes tou T68! </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gia ta lefta pou pouliete einai polla ta bugs pou exei.Alla kai gia tis dynatotites tou pali polla einai ta lefta!!Me liga logia den aksizei to 9210 me ayta ta lefta!!!Akou edo 330000!!!!Kai den perno ena pc h' enan forito???Min trelathoume kiolas!!

[billdanos]

E oxi kai polla bugs to 9210! Mhn leme kai oti theloume! Kai fysika den ehoun shesh oi dynatothtes tou me autes tou T68!

[Anonymous]

Alazonia tis Alpha Copy: To 9210 echi ena bug pu afora tis ISDN sindesis. Ti apantise to cc tis Alpha Copy se pelati pu rotise?: "Ta ellinika diktia den xerun apo ISDN" (!!!). O pelatis milise me to diktio tu/ISP to opio pire amesos tin Alpha Copy na diamartirithi...