DOS4GW kai XP, doyleyei?

[atsoft]

epeidei eimai ligo fun toy old gaming katebazo ana kairous paixnidakia apo to http://www.the-underdogs.org kyrios... alla osa games xrisimopoioyn to palio DOS4GW.EXE den doyleyei kai leei: can't find file to load DOS4GW.EX ... dokimasa 2-3 idees alla tipota... jerei kaneis tipota ?

 

Thanx... [/b]

[denexo]

Κατέβασε το DosBOX ο οποίος είναι εξομοιωτής του παλιού καλού κλασσικού DOS ειδικά φτιαγμένος για dos παιχνίδια. Ψάξε στο google και θα το βρεις σίγουρα.

[paredwse]

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/

 

 

Ειδικά για τα παιχνίδια που βασίζονται στο DOS4GW:

 

Σε μία ιστοσελίδα FAQ διάβασα τα εξής:

 

«Game crashes

There are numerious reasons for this. Usually try experimenting with memory settings and sound device settings. If it's a dos4gw game: Try another version of dos4gw from here (dos4gw itself isn't exactly bugfree.)»

[Nemo]

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/

 

 

Ειδικά για τα παιχνίδια που βασίζονται στο DOS4GW:

 

Σε μία ιστοσελίδα FAQ διάβασα τα εξής:

 

«Game crashes

There are numerious reasons for this. Usually try experimenting with memory settings and sound device settings. If it's a dos4gw game: Try another version of dos4gw from here (dos4gw itself isn't exactly bugfree.)»

 

apsogi apantisi

oso kai anapantexi (den perimena apo to paredwse

na asxoleite kai me ayta )

 

 

( poy na fantazomoyna oti o paredwse tha itan kai ligo<<*underDoG*>> pera ton allon )

 

*\http://www.the-underdogs.org\*

[paredwse]

@ Nemo: Δεν ασχολούμαι με κάτι συγκεκριμένο, ειδικά στους υπολογιστές - μάλλον άσχετος είμαι και κάπως εμπειρικός χρήστης. Λατρεύω όμως τα παλιά καλά DOS παιχνίδια τα οποία θεωρώ τρομερά addictive, ακόμα και σήμερα. Πέρασα αρκετές ώρες τελευταία παίζοντας το... Prince of Persia το 1ο.

 

o paredwsianos under-skylos™

 

[atsoft]

thanx re gyuz na 'stai kala... kai ego eimai underdog basika psaxno kai ena paixnidaki to DEYTEROS! einai h synexeia toy millenium...exei bgei gia pc? mallon oxi... ara koitao meso amiga emultor... tespa... pao sta adyta toy google gia to palio DOS...

 

later!

 

A! exo kai polla probs me ton ixo ... den anagnorizei thn audigy2 poy exo opos kai thn live! san sounblaster pro i otidipota allo prospatho ....thn 128ara thn palia nomizo oti doyleyei... tipota se ayto???

 

 

THNX

[paredwse]

Για τον ήχο, για δοκίμασε το VDMSound και ρίξε και μια ματιά εδώ για χρήσιμα tips.

 

[Nemo]

thanx re gyuz na 'stai kala... kai ego eimai underdog ??

 

 

THNX

 

E oxi kai underdog ' date=' under-koytavi mallon

 

kalytera paixto meso amiga emulation

 

http://www.back2roots.org/Games/Files/Deuteros%2C1/

save game

http://www.back2roots.org/Games/Savedisks/Deuteros%2C3/

 

etsi ki alios kai se dos (an ypirxe pali meso emulation tha to epiazes

-dosbox mia kai 1989 paixnidi poy btw den to vrika sto underdogs

epaize se xt opote kai se 486 isos exei problima na to paixeis ase pou o mousiki tha paizei mallon apo to mefafonaki toy pc )

 

 

 

oso gia dos akoma kai i audigy(meso sb16 emulation) kai i sblive paizei

dos drivers gia audigu apo ena rossiko site

http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/sblive-dos/audigy-dos.zip

 

alloste tin ypostirizei o kalyteros dos mp3 player o Mpxplay

(System requirements for Mpxplay:

CPU: Intel 80486 100mhz (DX4-100) or above

RAM: 4-8Mb

Soundcard:

- SB Live, Audigy 1 and 2 (native EMU10K1 handling)

- SB16 (ISA) or compatible (SB AWE32/64,SB Live,SB Audigy,CMI8330)

- ESS 1688-1888 chips

-.......................................

 

 

 

 

an kai prepei na isxyei oti kai gia tin sblive

 

PLAY DOS GAMES WITH SOUND BLASTER LIVE!

 

 

Do you use Windows 95 or 98?

Do you own a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! PCI card?

Do you still play DOS based games that require native MS-DOS mode?

If you answered YES to all these questions, you're in for a treat.

First, to learn how to boot directly to native MS-DOS to play your favorite games, see "2 DOS OR NOT 2 DOS", also in MYTIPS95.TXT [part of W95-11D.EXE'].

These are the necessary steps to successfully play your old DOS games that require native/true/real MS-DOS mode (and canNOT be run from a Win9x DOS box/session!) with sound enabled:

 

It is known that the SB Live! cards (ANY flavor: Full, Value, OEM/1024, X-Gamer, MP3, Platinum etc) provide only SB16 FM synthesis emulation support in all DOS modes. This means you won't be able to play any fancy Wavetable or Extended MIDI sequences, only basic sounds, and eventually CD audio, if your software can emulate it.

 

 

If you're a DOS die-hard fan [like I am ], there is an alternative solution to this problem: get a Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold ISA card [that is if your motherboard has any ISA slots available ], the best audio board for DOS apps/games, featuring full MIDI and Wavetable support in native MS-DOS.

You can find this card for really cheap at popular internet vendor sites.

If you do get one, and if this is your only ISA device in your computer, make sure you enable the "Passive Release" and "Delayed Transaction", and increase the "8-bit I/O Recovery" setting to maximum (usually 8) in your BIOS "Advanced Chipset Features" (or similar) Setup screen, to have your ISA card(s) perform without a hitch together with all your PCI devices.

This is necessary because the PCI clock frequency is much faster (33 MHz) than the ISA counterpart (16 MHz), and it has to be forced to wait longer (more clock cycles) for the ISA device(s) to "catch up". Otherwise you may experience sudden machine lockups. If enabled, these settings will slow down the overall system speed a bit, but your PC will run more reliably.

The BIOS configuration above applies to Abit BE6-II mobos. If you have an Abit BH6 mainboard, these settings are found under the "Chipset Features Setup" BIOS menu. On all Abit mobos press the Del key to access BIOS Setup when the AWARD POST (Power On Self Test) display appears.

If you do NOT have any ISA devices installed in your computer (all your mobo's ISA slots are empty or your mainboard does not have any ISA slots), it is highly recommended to disable/decrease to minimum these BIOS settings, to gain maximum performance on all PCI/AGP based PCs!

If you'd like to avoid "messing" with your BIOS Setup altogether, you can do this the "easy" way. Get TweakBIOS for DOS [freeware and $20 registered versions available], the ultimate BIOS configuration tool, which fine tunes most hidden settings not available in BIOS Setup (use with CAUTION!) without rebooting.

Back to SB Live!:

By default, when you first install the Win9x Live! drivers from your CD, you will be asked to setup the "Creative SB16 emulation" for DOS programs. Answer "Yes" to let Setup enable DOS support. Then edit (using Notepad in Windows or EDIT in DOS) your AUTOEXEC.BAT file (found in C:\ root), or create one if it is not present, though this should not be necessary, because the SB Live! installation routine will create one for you, and will add these lines at the top (your paths may differ):

 

SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6

SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS

C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

 

in this EXACT order. The "SET <variable>" lines MUST appear BEFORE the SBEINIT line, because SBEINIT.COM uses these environment values to determine your SB Live! DOS hardware settings.

Note that drive letter/directory name and/or hardware assignments [memory address: A220, interrupt line: I5, low/high DMA channel: D1/H5 etc] may be different on your computer, depending on your custom setup.

This should get you started in some cases, but [there's always a "but" ] there are a couple of things you need to do first, to ensure that SBEINIT initializes the card correctly upon boot.

Edit (using Notepad in Windows or EDIT in DOS) your CONFIG.SYS file (found also in C:\ root), or create one if not present, to include these lines at the top:

 

DOS=HIGH,UMB

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF /Q

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE I=B000-B7FF RAM D=256 AUTO

 

Note that SBEINIT will NOT load without expanded memory (EMS) enabled by EMM386.EXE's "RAM" parameter! And make sure your EMM386.EXE command does NOT contain the "NOEMS" switch, because this disables EMS, and SBEINIT will abort!

See this MSKB article for more details.

Do NOT try to use another 3rd party enhanced/expanded memory manager like QEMM, NetRoom, 386MAX etc. SBEINIT works ONLY with Microsoft's EMM386.EXE!

Also, you need to load SBEINIT at the beginning of your AUTOEXEC.BAT, BEFORE ANY OTHER drivers/TSRs (especially SMARTDRV or RAM disks), because it uses a huge amount of free upper memory to initialize.

SBEINIT takes about 5 KB of low (conventional) RAM after loading.

SBEINIT canNOT load in upper memory (UMA), therefore you may NOT use the "LOADHIGH" ("LH" for short) command. If you do, your machine will freeze, and you will have to press the Reset button to reboot.

 

 

UPDATES:

 

"I load SBEINIT high without problems on my machine (Asus P2L97-S mobo, Win98 OS), but as long as the SB Live! Windows drivers change these AUTOEXEC.BAT lines (typical examples):

SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6

SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS

C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

to force the emulation driver to load into low memory, we need a workaround.

There are 2 ways of loading SBEINIT into upper memory:

Place all AUTOEXEC.BAT lines above in your CONFIG.SYS, and load SBEINIT using "INSTALLHIGH=" in your CONFIG.SYS (example):

INSTALLHIGH=C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

Then skip the (now useless) AUTOEXEC.BAT lines this way (starting with the 1st line at the top, which is usually "@ECHO OFF"):

@ECHO OFF

GOTO SKIPSBL

SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6

SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS

C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

:SKIPSBL

etc...

This is necessary because if using the "REM" or "::" commands to comment them out, the SB Live routine removes the comments every time when the Windows GUI loads, reenabling these lines.

If loading SBEINIT (as explained above) from CONFIG.SYS fails, try to use 4DOS (shareware COMMAND.COM replacement) and load SBEINIT from 4START.BAT, or create a separate batch file which loads SBEINIT, and call this BATch from your AUTOEXEC.BAT (example):

CALL C:\SBLIVE.BAT

Both methods work on my system, and I get about 622 KB of free conventional RAM after booting, and before loading Windows, using the HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE releases shipped with Windows 98 (build 4.10.1998)."

[Thank you ACiD StOUt ([email protected])!]

 

"I haven't had any trouble loading SBEINIT.EXE in upper memory with EMS disabled (NOEMS). I had trouble running it with SmartDrive, though. I'm using Win95C OSR 2.5 with HIMEM.SYS + EMM386.EXE in CONFIG.SYS.

IMPORTANT: You can stop AUTOEXEC.BAT and DOSSTART.BAT from being edited by SB Live! every time you boot by moving CTSYN16.DRV from C:\Windows\System or by renaming it.

The sound card works fine in Windows, but I haven't tried in DOS yet."

[Thank you Martin ([email protected])!]

To tweak your SB16 emulation hardware settings to your liking (but make sure to avoid a hardware conflict if another device in your computer uses the same interrupt or DMA channel!), you can use SBESET.EXE, a DOS based configuration tool, also located in the same \DOSDRV subfolder. Run:

 

SBESET /?

 

from native MS-DOS to display all available parameters.

To see all your free hardware resources (IRQ, DMA, Base Address etc) that can be safely used by SBESET, run (with Windows GUI started!): Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager tab -> double-click on Computer -> scroll through the IRQ, DMA, I/O and Memory resources lists -> write down the ones that appear NOT to be used by ANY hardware device -> exit Windows 9x to native MS-DOS [see "DOS NOW!", also in MYTIPS95.TXT (part of W95-11D.EXE)] -> run SBESET with the appropriate switches to reflect one of your free Device Manager resources for each setting -> reboot into Windows -> reopen the resources lists -> check for ANY question or exclamation marks. If you find any, try different settings for SBESET until all conflicts are resolved. Then reboot one more time.

You can also add a line for SBESET in your AUTOEXEC.BAT to keep these settings "alive" at all times. But BEWARE: if you later add new hardware to your machine that needs an IRQ, DMA channel, I/O and/or memory address to function, or for some reason you or your OS change(s) ANY hardware resources, you need to repeat ALL above steps afterwards, to ensure "smooth" operation.

If using SBESET from AUTOEXEC.BAT, make sure the SBEINIT line appears AFTER the SBESET command, and BEFORE the SMARTDRV.EXE and/or RAM Disk (i.e. XMSDSK.EXE/EMSDSK.EXE) lines, if any!

This is my AUTOEXEC.BAT SBESET line (example) which enables SB FM emulation and the use of joystick/flight-stick (connected to the SB Live! 16 pin joystick/MIDI port) in native MS-DOS mode for all my DOS based games:

 

E:\LIVE\DOSDRV\SBESET.EXE -d0 -j1 -w0 -A220 -I5 -D1 -H5 -J200 -P330

 

All SBESET command line parameters are case sensitive.

Any hardware assignments altered by SBESET require a reboot to take effect.

If everything goes well, you should be able to enable sound and music in your favorite DOS games from now on, by choosing the appropriate sound card (try first Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster 16, SB16, AWE32 or similar) in your game's Setup/Options menu. Wrong sound board selection may lockup your game and most likely your computer too.

 

BTW: If you'd like to have more than one boot choices, for example one for running Win9x GUI without EMM386.EXE, or with EMM386.EXE but without EMS enabled (only upper and extended memory support: add "NOEMS"), and another for playing native MS-DOS games (and eventually include the SB Live! lines detailed above), you can create multi-boot CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files. Take a look at mine [both included with W95-11D.EXE] to learn how to do this.

 

Have fun!

 

 

 

 

 

poso mallon i 128 poy exei dos drivers sto cd tis .

 

Aplos kanei o installer tis aparitites prosthikes sto autoexec.bat kai config.sys

kai fortoneis prin to paixnidi to sbinit.com (ap oti thymamai ap tin egkatastasi poy ekana prin xronia sto pc toy ksadelfoy moy mia

kai sb128 pci den eixa ego pote prosopika .....