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[Toufas]

sostos o kaizer

oi arxaioi itan bisexual...oxi gay

[LL_NEO]

Χμμμμμ καταρχάς ξέχασες και τον Υδάσπη(αν θυμάμαι καλά) ποταμό. Ε κοίτα όπως καταλαβαίνεις ταινία Hollywood είναι, μην περιμένεις να δεις τίποτα περισσότερο απο κάτι σε Braveheart(χωρίς αυτό να σημαίνει ότι δε μου άρεσε).

[KaizerSoze]

Kala re LL,apo maxes o Alexandros allo tipota,apla anefera tis 3 pio gnwstes

[andr3as]

Καλα θα δούμε τι θα γίνει και ή θα φρικάρουμε ή θα γουστάρουμε πολύ. Απ'ότι πιστεύω βασικά θα βγούμε με την ίδια φάτσα που βγήκαμε και στον μονομάχο. Ελπίζω να μην δω καμιά Αμερικανική Σημαία μες την ταινία lol

[hyperionsky]

sostos o kaizer

oi arxaioi itan bisexual...oxi gay

 

Den mporw na pw tipota perissotero apo: mallon den kseroume ti mas ginetai apo ellhnikh istoria. Kseroume pio polla gia ton Tolkien opote as milame gia ton Arxonta.

 

Prin peite kati koitakste na to exete epivevaiwsei kapws kai na mhn anaparagete lathh, modes kai taseis tou parelthontos kai shmerines.

 

Kai ena sxolio gia ton LL_NEO (ligo argoporhmeno): O Kakridhs den htan aftos o typakos me ta polla ptyxia pou katakreourghse thn Iliada kai thn Odysseia pou diavazame sto gymnasio? Exw diavasei swsta ta keimena apo tote alla akoma h anamnhsh mou dhmiourgei sok.

[Toufas]

ego exo diavasei oti stin arxaia ellada eixane nea paidia kai ta eixane gia sexoualikous kai mono logous...kai oti apagorevotane afou telione o "afentis tous" na tous kitaksoune sta matia kai oti eprepe na teliosoune ekso apo to soma tou

afta ta exo akousei kai se radiofoniki ekpompi pio palia..

[nikolaos_]

Αν η Μόνικα ήταν γαυρίνα (που έχω φήμες ότι είναι) θα άλλαζες ομάδα, ή θα άλλαζες Μόνικα;

[hyperionsky]

To ti leei o kathenas ek twn ysterwn den exei kai tosh shmasia Toufas. Shmasia exei poia einai ta stoixeia pou parousiazei apo ta arxaia keimena (ektos ki an phge 2000 xronia pisw kai ta eide). Oso ki an exw psaksei (kakovoula polles fores) na vrw kapoio arxaio keimeno pou na anaferei afta pou les den vrhka tipota. To mono pou exw vrei einai metagenesteres apopseis melethtwn pou synhthws sthrizontai se ektimhseis. Aplws alloi einai pio timioi kai to lene kai alloi parousiazoun auta pou lene san vevaiothtes. Mono gia to symposio tou Platwna yparxoun kapioi ypenigmoi alla ki ekei yparxoun prosegiseis kai prosegiseis.

 

Tespa to thema einai oti eimaste poly eykoloi sto na ta dexomaste ayta. Parakolouthousa prin to topic gia to Lord Of The Rings kai ton Tolkien kai diavasa polles fores gia to an eprepena peiraxtoun ta vivlia kai poso wste na gyristoun tainies kai oi purists epesan apanw ston Peter Jackson na ton fane. An auto ginetai gia ena (shmantiko) mythistorima, gia thn Istoria tou kosmou ti tha eprepe na ginetai?

[epote]

(eidika to plano me tis xiliades Ellinikes triireis poly gelio,tosa ploia den exoume oute twra!)

 

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!!

 

χαχαχαχα και ητανε δεν ηταν 10.000 ολοι και ολοι εγω να δω τον αχιλεα να δερνει οπως ο ηρακλης και η ζηνα και μετα να παιθανω

[KaizerSoze]

Ti tyfwnas Epote itan autos simera??5 seri topic me teleutaio poster ton mod....

 

Koita,den pisteuw oti tha doume ton Kevin Sorbo metamfiesmeno se Brad Pitt alla aneta pisteuw oti apo ton Doureio Ippo(an kai eida tin skini kai den deixnei tosoooooo entypwsiaki) tha vgaloun kamia 1000 ninja Arxaious Ellines me katana pou ama laxei na'oume tha sfaxoun kai olous tous Troiezous(Troia-Troiezos kata to Dania-Danezos)

 

....na'oume

[epote]

δωσε κανα λινκ για κανα τρειλερ τωρα και μη λες και πολλα για θα ερθω νιντζατος με φουλ εξοπλισμο εποχης χαλκου να σε κανω σουσι

[privateer]

 

Actor Brendan Gleeson has taken over the 'John C. Reilly slot' to become the ubiquitous supporting cast member for any major movie. In the past year alone he's had major roles in "28 Days Later", "Gangs of New York", "Dark Blue" and now this year's big Oscar potential "Cold Mountain".

 

Whilst promoting 'Cold', he talked surprisingly in-depth to About.Com about what's next for him including his role as Menelaus, the husband of Helen who initiates the Trojan war in next year's biggest movie - "Troy".

 

What about your role in ?Troy?? intrigued you?

That was another one I wasnʼt quite sure about. I actually met Wolfgang [Petersen] on the way home from Romania off of ?Cold Mountain.? I met him in London on the way home to Ireland and I said, ?Look, Iʼm not sure. I just loved the script but Iʼm just very tired at the moment.? But he takes an age to make up his mind about who he wants, as well, because of this, that, and the other thing. So I had over Christmas to think about it. Eventually they came back and said, ?Weʼd really like you to do it.? I kind of said [hesitantly] yes. It was really more the script than the character that drove that one. I enjoyed the chat with Wolfgang and I said, ?This is going to be one of the greatest stories in the world and itʼll be interesting to be a part of it.?

 

The more I got to know Menelaus, the more I liked him. Heʼs one of these poor guys that even though he has a lot going for him, even when he won, he lost. He married the most beautiful woman in the world and then she runs off with Orlando Bloom. He goes off and fights him, and he kind of beats him, but he still loses out. I actually kind of grew really fond of him because I felt he was dishonored at every turn. He had this kind of vague sense of honor. And of course the Trojans are over there to make peace and theyʼre eating all his food, and then they run away with his wife. And it just kind of tickled me for some reason (laughing). I actually grew to really like Menelaus. And you could see the scale of the story, I think itʼs going to be massive.

 

It seems everyone is really looking forward to ?Troy??

Itʼs glorious. ?Cold Mountain,? I think even for all its epic scale, is quite an intimate movie. Itʼs a very personal and intimate story. For all the characters, when you were asking before about getting lost, I think thereʼs an intimacy about each of those characters, both the main ones and the people who he meets along the way and the people like myself who drop in at the end. Thereʼs an intimacy about that. Whereas ?Troy,? itʼs just up there. Itʼs all out there. All the emotions are huge, all the issues are huge, all the armies are huge, and the fleets are huge, and the walls of Troy are huge ? and itʼs just really ʽgo for itʼ time. Subtlety not required at all, which is a fantastic liberation at times. Not very often in filmmaking can you do that. If you lose your subtlety, you lose credibility for the most part. Whereas ?Troy? isnʼt like that. You just go for it ? there is no over-the-top.

 

Were you involved in a lot of fighting scenes in ?Troy??

I am. Myself and Orlando go at it.

 

 

An everyday story of Greek folk? with a breath-taking cast, big budget, stacks of action and sunny locations, will Troy be the biggest flick of 2004?

Boy meets girl. Boy steals girl away from hubby. Hubby gets a bit annoyed and rains down 10 years of war on their heads and then pulls a very smart trick with a comedy giant horse. How many times have we seen that story? Well, not too many, but in May 2004 you wonʼt be able to move for togas, sandals, rippling biceps and leading men in skirts in Troy, Wolfgang Petersenʼs take on Homerʼs tales The Odyssey and The Iliad. Gods not included.

 

A lot of attention has been focused on Troy for fair reasons or foul. It has a budget gossiped to be in the region of $180 million but, even though it was co-financed with Warner Bros, Village Roadshow apparently suffered financial problems that cast doubts on its involvement in the project. Unsurprisingly, media attention focused on the tragedy of an extra dying after an accident on set.

 

But filming continued. Now there are reports that Troy has an epic feel of movie days gone by. Itʼs rumoured to feature one of the biggest sets ever seen in a film, and to say that director Petersenʼs assembled cast is a testosterone-charged pantheon of Hollywood A-list talent is something of an understatement.

 

Taking the lead is Brad Pitt, ably filling the sandals of Achilles, leader of the Greek armada, although flying specially to Britain to have your roots done because youʼre scared of sun damage caused in the Maltese location isnʼt what youʼd ?? ? call method acting. Leader of Troyʼs home team army is Hector, played by Eric Bana. And do you know something? You wonʼt like him when heʼs? Oh, forget it!

 

The cause of all this trouble (and they should know better) are the tragic lovers Paris and Helen. Orlando Bloom continues to bring new meaning to the word ʽubiquityʼ as Paris (and very pretty he looks too in a skirt), alongside the relatively unknown Diane Kruger as Helen (of Troy, naturally).

 

In among the Hollywood youngsters youʼll find a crop of heavyweight British thespians, from Bloomʼs Lord of the Rings colleague Sean Bean as Odysseus to Brian Cox as Agamemnon.

 

Aside from the talent on offer, Troy is likely to score high on the visuals, and not just rippling biceps. Petersen has an epic sweep that is rarely bettered, and the battle scenes featured are likely to make the scraps in Gladiator look like a tussle after closing time down at the Dog and Duck.

[privateer]

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http://media.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/troy/troy_spbowl_hi/troy_spbowl_a.mov

[privateer]

Spoilers sto troy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stax here with my reaction to the screenplay for Troy! This 157-page draft by David Benioff (Stay, The 25th Hour) is loosely based on Homer's The Iliad. Brad Pitt, Eric Bana and Orlando Bloom will star for director Wolfgang Petersen. Recent reports suggest that Claire Forlani (Meet Joe Black), Emilio Estevez (Mission: Impossible), and Oscar-nominee Michael Clarke Duncan (Daredevil) are also in negotiations to join the Village Roadshow/Warner Brothers project. Troy will film in London, Malta and Morocco this spring for a 2004 release.

 

 

Troy is only loosely based on The Iliad, Homer's classic tale of the Trojan War. Deleted from this account is much of the Greek mythology that peppers Homer's story. The gods, although often mentioned, are not characters here at all; gone, too, are such famous episodes as "the judgment of Paris." Instead, Troy offers a realistic depiction of a historical event ? the Trojan War ? long thought to have been a mere myth until Heinrich Schliemann proved otherwise.

 

While staying as the guest of Spartan king Menelaus, Trojan prince Paris (Bloom) enjoys an affair with the king's wife, Helen (Forlani?). Since her marriage to Menelaus is loveless, Paris' appeal to return with him to Troy proves too much for Helen to resist. Paris subsequently "abducts" Helen when he and his elder brother Hector (Bana) sail for Troy. Paris refuses to return Helen even after Hector protests because he knows what Menelaus will do to her. This love affair between Paris and Helen ignites the Trojan War.

 

Menelaus' brother is Agamemnon, king of the Myceneans, whose thirst for conquest knows no bounds. While Menelaus wants to wage war on the Trojans over wounded pride, Agamemnon sees the fall of Troy as the latest and most prized addition to his collection of conquered civilizations. The different Greek kingdoms under Agamemnon's rule fight for him not so much out of loyalty as fear of reprisal. The Greek warrior kings who join the campaign against Troy include the legendary Odysseus of Ithaca, Ajax of Salamis (Duncan?), Diomedes of Argos, and the greatest fighter of them all, Achilles (Pitt) of the Myrmidons.

 

Achilles' prowess on the battlefield has made him famous even amongst his fellow Greeks. Although he has no true loyalty to Agamemnon, the laconic yet deadly Achilles agrees to fight the king's new war simply for the glory of it. Accompanying Achilles on this campaign is his adoring, beloved teenage cousin, Patroclus. Long story short: Troy holds out better than expected against the Greeks, with the noble Hector leading his men to a surprising victory

 

The Greeks believe if they can kill Hector then the Trojans' spirit will be broken and they'll soon buckle. The Greeks try to convince Achilles to challenge Hector to a duel but Agamemnon has offended Achilles' honor and now he intends on departing the war. It is only after Hector (unwittingly) personalizes the war for Achilles that the Greek warrior ruthlessly confronts the Trojan prince with tragic results for all involved.

 

Troy was a sweeping yet intimate epic chock full of spectacle, romance, tragedy and action. I was surprised at how poignant it turned out to be. Benioff also does a great job in conveying a lot with very little. For such a mammoth tale, there's surprisingly little exposition and the characters are sketched out in simple yet insightful detail. I was particularly taken with the relationship between Hector and Paris. Hector's "Achilles' heel", if you will, is his honor and loyalty; Paris' is his infatuation with Helen. Paris matures during the course of this story as he realizes the far-reaching implications of his impetuous decision. He must also come to terms with his own cowardice. The theme of brotherhood also extends to Achilles' relationship with Patroclus, as well as to sibling bad guys Menelaus and Agamemnon.

 

If Hector's tragic flaw is his own goodness then Achilles' is vainglory. I was surprised at how dark and unsympathetic Achilles was; I think this is the first time since Twelve Monkeys that Brad Pitt has played the closest thing to a villain. Achilles is this story's Darth Maul or Boba Fett, the cool, kick-ass antagonist who was, in his own words, "born to take lives." Some readers have complained to me that they think Pitt is too slight to play the mighty Achilles. I must admit that the thought has also crossed my mind but Pitt has the intensity necessary for the role, and Fight Club proved he can handle his own in a brawl. Black Hawk Down alumni Bana and Bloom stand to gain the most from Troy; I fully expect Bana to achieve Russell Crowe-level stardom thanks to this project.

 

 

I appreciated the ambiguity and restraint with which Helen was portrayed here. Scholars still debate whether Helen was a femme fatale who caused a needless war or if she was a victim. This draft's Helen falls somewhere in between. She understands the carnage that her affair has caused and this guilt plagues her. Still, she truly loves Paris even after he shows all of Troy how flawed and unworthy a man he is. Helen also has great respect for Hector, not just because he's more of a man than Paris is but because he fights (without complaint) a war that she helped spark.

 

I also enjoyed the modern allusions that Benioff slipped into Troy. While parallels between the Trojan War and Vietnam are nothing new (after all, Oliver Stone's Platoon was heavily influenced by The Iliad), Troy illustrates how vile and pointless war can be when its goals and motives are so questionable. Although, like Petersen's The Perfect Storm, Troy is ultimately a downer, it still manages to end on a note of hope. This is all the more impressive when one recalls the tragic inevitability with which the story progresses.

 

Expect Troy to be a major awards contender when it opens in 2004. It combines the action and spectacle of Gladiator with the romance and intimacy of Braveheart, all of which adds up to a rather obvious formula for a Best Picture nod. Troy succeeds because it works as a moving human drama as well as an old-fashioned sword-and-sandal epic. ? STAX

[KaizerSoze]

Deleted from this account is much of the Greek mythology that peppers Homer's story. The gods' date=' although often mentioned, are not characters here at all; gone, too, are such famous episodes as "the judgment of Paris." Instead, Troy offers a realistic depiction of a historical event ? the Trojan War ? long thought to have been a mere myth until Heinrich Schliemann proved otherwise.[/quote']

Aaaaaa,wste theloun tin realistiki istoria.Gia na doume,kovoun tous Theous-pou kata tin gnwmi mou einai i misi Iliada-pws alliws tha to kanoun realistiko...

 

While staying as the guest of Spartan king Menelaus, Trojan prince Paris (Bloom) enjoys an affair with the king's wife, Helen (Forlani?). Since her marriage to Menelaus is loveless, Paris' appeal to return with him to Troy proves too much for Helen to resist. Paris subsequently "abducts" Helen when he and his elder brother Hector (Bana) sail for Troy. Paris refuses to return Helen even after Hector protests because he knows what Menelaus will do to her. This love affair between Paris and Helen ignites the Trojan War.

Aaaaaaaaaaaa,malista.Auto einai realismos.Twra malista.AUTO itan i pragmatiki aitia tou Trwikou Polemou

 

Ajax of Salamis (Duncan?)

Mauros wre o Ainatas????

 

 

Although he has no true loyalty to Agamemnon, the laconic yet deadly Achilles agrees to fight the king's new war simply for the glory of it.

Edw kai an exoume realismo.Em vevea.Ena kakomathimeno itan o Axilleas.Dioti allwste tipota den exei allaxei stin nootropia twn anthrwpwn ta teleutaia 4000 xronia

Accompanying Achilles on this campaign is his adoring, beloved teenage cousin, Patroclus.

Xaderfaki wre o Patroklos??Kai aimomiktis o Axilleas?

 

The Greeks try to convince Achilles to challenge Hector to a duel but Agamemnon has offended Achilles' honor and now he intends on departing the war.

Gia tin antallagi me ta gomenakia oute logos??

 

 

as well as to sibling bad guys Menelaus and Agamemnon.

Gia na min xexniwmaste etsi??Oi Ellines oi kakoi...(Den lew oti ta pragmatika aitia den itan dolia,alla afou exoume ta "moufa" aitia nomizw oti einai ilithio na pisteuoume pws o Ellinas Omiros ekane kakous tous Ellines)

 

If Hector's tragic flaw is his own goodness then Achilles' is vainglory. I was surprised at how dark and unsympathetic Achilles was; I think this is the first time since Twelve Monkeys that Brad Pitt has played the closest thing to a villain. Achilles is this story's Darth Maul or Boba Fett, the cool, kick-ass antagonist who was, in his own words, "born to take lives."

ETSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 8) 8) NA GOUSTARWWWWW

Black Hawk Down alumni Bana and Bloom stand to gain the most from Troy;

Ase me na mantepsw: Oi Amrikanoi itan oi KALOI stin Somalia?????

 

I also enjoyed the modern allusions that Benioff slipped into Troy. While parallels between the Trojan War and Vietnam are nothing new (after all, Oliver Stone's Platoon was heavily influenced by The Iliad), Troy illustrates how vile and pointless war can be when its goals and motives are so questionable. Although, like Petersen's The Perfect Storm, Troy is ultimately a downer, it still manages to end on a note of hope. This is all the more impressive when one recalls the tragic inevitability with which the story progresses.

Re paidia,voithiste me na katalavw...poioi einai oi kaloi kai poioi oi kakoi???Sto Vietnam poioi itan oi kaloi kai poioi oi kakoi???