Gus-13 Δημοσ. 27 Οκτωβρίου 2014 Δημοσ. 27 Οκτωβρίου 2014 Παιδια καλησπερα, πριν 2 μερες εντελως ξαφνικα ενω ειχα ανοιχτο το wow το παΙχνιδι κολλησε και εμφανιστηκαν οριζοντια και καθετα artifacts.Στην επανακινηση τα ιδια, artifacts παντου και η αναλυση της οθονης ειχε αλλαξει απο μονη της.Οταν πηγαινα να την αλλαξω το PC κολλουσε και ηθελε reset.Εκανα uninstall τους drivers με το driver sweeper μετα με το Atiman τα ιδια..εκανα και ενα φορματ (δεν ξερω γιατι το εκανα να σας πω την αληθεια) δεν βοηθησε σε κατι.Οι θερμοκρασιες τη καρτας ηταν παντα σε πολυ νορμαλ επιπεδα δεν μου ειχε ξαναπαρουσιασει καποιο προβλημα.Την ανοιξα να την καθαρισω και η αληθεια ειναι πως ειχε πολυ σκονη..Το PC σε καποια φαση λογκαρε στα windows ονο με safe mode.Και οταν εκανα το καθαρισμα με το Atiman τοτε μπορουσα να μπω στα windows σε κανονικη λειτουργια αλλα με χαμηλοτερη αναλυση.Οταν επιχειρουσα να την αλλαξω το PC παγωνε και εμφανιζοταν BSOD.Εχει αρχησει και με αφηνει η καρτα η υπαρχει λυση? cpu:Amd fx 8350 MOBO:gigabyte GA-990fxa-d3 GPU:sapphire 6870 ram:16gb HD: samsung 128 SSD windows 7 64 επισυναπτω και το report apo to dxdiag ------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 10/27/2014, 21:23:40 Machine name: CARLOS-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.110408-1633) Language: Greek (Regional Setting: Greek)System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. System Model: GA-990FXA-D3 BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz Memory: 16384MB RAMAvailable OS Memory: 16366MB RAM Page File: 2621MB used, 30106MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 64bit Unicode DxDiag Previously: Crashed in DirectShow (stage 1). Re-running DxDiag with "dontskip" command line parameter or choosing not to bypass information gathering when prompted might result in DxDiag successfully obtaining this information------------DxDiag Notes------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Sound Tab 3: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found.--------------------DirectX Debug Levels--------------------Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)---------------Display Devices--------------- Card name: Manufacturer: Chip type: DAC type: Device Key: Enum\ Display Memory: n/a Dedicated Memory: n/a Shared Memory: n/a Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (1Hz) Driver Name:Driver File Version: () Driver Version: DDI Version: unknown Driver Model: unknown Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/a Device Identifier: {D7B70EE0-4340-11CF-B123-B03DAEC2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x0000 Device ID: 0x0000 SubSys ID: 0x00000000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Driver Strong Name: Unknown Rank Of Driver: Unknown Video Accel: Deinterlace Caps: n/a D3D9 Overlay: n/a DXVA-HD: n/a DDraw Status: Not Available D3D Status: Not Available AGP Status: Not Available-------------Sound Devices------------- Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1000 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 2/24/2011 12:21:10, 2753512 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2 Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura ZoomFX: No Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Playback: No Default Voice Playback: No Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1000 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 2/24/2011 12:21:10, 2753512 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2 Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura ZoomFX: No Description: Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio) Default Sound Playback: No Default Voice Playback: No Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1000 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: Yes Date and Size: 2/24/2011 12:21:10, 2753512 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. HW Accel Level: Basic Cap Flags: 0xF1F Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: No EAX 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No I3DL2 Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura ZoomFX: No---------------------Sound Capture Devices----------------------------------------DirectInput Devices------------------- Device Name: Mouse Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Keyboard Attached: 1 Controller ID: n/aVendor/Product ID: n/a FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037 FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B FF Driver: n/a Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Attached: 1 Controller ID: 0x0Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B FF Driver: n/aPoll w/ Interrupt: No-----------USB Devices-----------+ USB Root Hub| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4397| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub| Service: usbhub| Driver: usbhub.sys, 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes| Driver: usbd.sys, 7/14/2009 02:06:23, 7936 bytes----------------Gameport Devices----------------------------PS/2 Devices------------+ HID Keyboard Device| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard| Service: kbdhid| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 33280 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes|+ HID Keyboard Device| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard| Service: kbdhid| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 33280 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes|+ HID Keyboard Device| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard| Service: kbdhid| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 33280 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes|+ HID Keyboard Device| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard| Service: kbdhid| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 33280 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes|+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd| Upper Filters: kbdclass| Service: TermDD| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/14/2009 01:19:57, 105472 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes|+ HID-compliant mouse| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0037| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse| Service: mouhid| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 31232 bytes| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 49216 bytes|+ HID-compliant mouse| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011B| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse| Service: mouhid| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 31232 bytes| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 49216 bytes|+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou| Upper Filters: mouclass| Service: TermDD| Driver: termdd.sys, 7/14/2009 03:45:55, 62544 bytes| Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 26624 bytes| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 49216 bytes------------------------Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives------------------------ Drive: C: Free Space: 65.3 GBTotal Space: 114.4 GBFile System: NTFS Model: Samsung SSD 840 Series ATA Device Drive: D: Model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224BB ATA Device Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Greek), 7/14/2009 01:19:54, 147456 bytes--------------System Devices-------------- Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1601&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C1 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A3&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&AB Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&98 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: High Definition Audio ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_A0021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A2 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:13, 122368 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1600&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C0 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A2&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&AA Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&90 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: Etron USB 3.0 Extensible Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1B6F&DEV_7023&SUBSYS_50071458&REV_01\4&33588FB7&0&0048 Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\EtronXHCI.sys, 0.00.0000.0098 (English), 3/7/2011 11:22:00, 65280 bytes Name: High Definition Audio ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA88&SUBSYS_AA88174B&REV_00\4&346CDA62&0&0110 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:13, 122368 bytes Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A1&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A9 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&B2 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 51200 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_06\4&1A75311A&0&00A8 Driver: n/a Name: AMD Radeon HD 6800 SeriesDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6738&SUBSYS_174B174B&REV_00\4&346CDA62&0&0010 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A0&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A8 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&9A Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 51200 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1605&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C5 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard ISA bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_439D1002&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A3 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 15424 bytes Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&92 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 51200 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1604&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C4 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A1C&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&48 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439C&SUBSYS_50021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A1 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 12352 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Greek), 7/14/2009 03:45:46, 48720 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:52:21, 24128 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Greek), 7/14/2009 03:52:21, 155728 bytes Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4390&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&88 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 12352 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Greek), 7/14/2009 03:45:46, 48720 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:52:21, 24128 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (Greek), 7/14/2009 03:52:21, 155728 bytes Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1603&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C3 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A16&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&10 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A5 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_42\3&18D45AA6&0&A0 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1602&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C2 Driver: n/a Name: PCI standard host CPU bridgeDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A14&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_02\3&18D45AA6&0&00 Driver: n/a Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&B0 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:30, 25600 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:06:31, 324608 bytes Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 02:07:09, 343040 bytes Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A4 Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:45:45, 183872 bytes---------------EVR Power Information---------------Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) Quality Flags: 2576 Enabled: Force throttling Allow half deinterlace Allow scaling Decode Power Usage: 100 Balanced Flags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 50 PowerFlags: 1424 Enabled: Force throttling Allow batching Force half deinterlace Force scaling Decode Power Usage: 0
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