Petakste tous 3.06 P4 kai balte P2!

[stako]

Posa dosate gia ton P4 sas? 'H ton Athlon sas? Osa kai na itan kakos ta dosate!

 

Entaksei, isos na min einai akribos etsi alla rikste mia matia edo:

 

http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000242

 

Apla fainetai asteio ena CPU 5 xronon na "fainetai" pio grigoro apo ena P4 2.8...........!

 

:roll:

[Marcos_Aurilius]

Δεν "φαίνεται" το CPU πιο γρήγορο. Φαινεται το όλο σύστημα πιο αποδοτικό για παιχνίδια (και ας μην είναι αλήθεια - δεν παίζουν ρόλο μόνο οι VGA).

Η διαφορά των CPU φάινεται στα CPU τεστ όπου ο μεν χτυπαει 9 βαθμούς και ο δε 550...

[kostas_crete]

Apodeiknietai telika oti ola ta 3dmark mas doulevoun psilo gazi.

[Marcos_Aurilius]

Καθόλου δεν σε δουλεύουν. Απλά πρέπει πρώτα να καταλάβεις τι μετράνε και τι όχι.

[stako]

Ennoeitai den fainetai pio grigoro to CPU...................gia to olo systima leo oti "fainetai"........pros theou, ayto einai aytonoito................................................................

[stako]

File mou Aurilius katalabainoume ti metrane.............alla i sinithis taktiki einai na deixnoun MONO to 3dMark kai OXI to CPUMark.........kai ante emeis pou kseroume kati parapano, to 95% ton user (ksereis, ayton pou ta paizei enas driver kai pane olo to PC sto service) den kserei kai otan blepei 1000 marks parapano epilegei tin X sinthesi tote ti ginetai??? Min krineis ta panta symfona me to ti kseroun aytoi pou asxolountai ligo parapano.........exo symboulepsei pano apo 10 filous-syggeneis gia to ti PC tha paroun, kai oi perissoteroi an den rotousan emena 'i kapoion pou na "kserei" tote tha epairnan to super-duper PC sta 3,06 me tin on-board graphics card kai ton 20ari disko pou parousiazoun gia to "top" mixanima sta gnosta computer shops.............'i ayto pou bgazei ta 1000 marks parapano....................

 

Kano lathos?

[Marcos_Aurilius]

Και εγώ έχω φτιάξει συνθέσεις για πολλές ξεχωριστές περιπτώσεις και συμφωνώ πως υπάρχει μεγάλο ποσοστό ανθρώπων που εύκολα πλανούνται από διαφημισεις κτλ...

Αλλά θεωρώ πως αυτό το ποσοστο (που εύστοχα περιγράφεις παραπάνω με τον driver) ανθρώπων, ούτε τι είναι το 3DMark γνωρίζουν, ούτε βέβαια έχω δει διαφήμιση να προωθεί το PC με βάση το σκορ του 3DMark. Ti θέλω να πω? Ότι οι περισσότεροι εδώ μέσα γνωρίζουμε αρκετά πράγματα. Γα όσους δεν γνωρίζουν, εδώ είμαστε να διευκρινίζουμε. Για όσους δεν γνωρίζουν αλλά το παίζουν γνώστες, τότε διευκρινίζουμε σε άλλο επίπεδο... (και φυσικά δεν αναφέρομαι σε εσένα stako)

[stako]

Simfono mazi soy, an kai exo dei (kyrios sto Net bebaia) diafimiseis pou tonizoun to 3dMark score. Prosopika den theoro to 3dMark kati aksiopisto pleon opote ti na leme......... Stin parea mou exoume kanei ena mikro timedemo sto Unreal kai trexoume ayto gia sygkriseis metaksy mas.....giati akoma kai ta default timedemos tou Unreal exoun perithoria tweaking apo tis etaireies me skopo extra frames (gnorizontas to path pou akolouthei to demo einai dynaton na bgaloun perissotera frames....distixos..... :roll: )

[Marcos_Aurilius]

...gnorizontas to path pou akolouthei to demo einai dynaton na bgaloun perissotera frames....distixos..... :roll: )

 

ΕΜΠΡΟΣ ΟΛΟΙ ΜΑΖΙ, ΣΤΟΝ ΔΡΟΜΟ ΠΟΥ ΧΑΡΑΞΕ Η NVIDIA!

[stako]

...gnorizontas to path pou akolouthei to demo einai dynaton na bgaloun perissotera frames....distixos..... :roll: )

 

ΕΜΠΡΟΣ ΟΛΟΙ ΜΑΖΙ' date=' ΣΤΟΝ ΔΡΟΜΟ ΠΟΥ ΧΑΡΑΞΕ Η NVIDIA! [/quote']

 

 

Etsi etsi...!

 

[lefterhs]

To sumperasma pou bgazw apo auto to test einai oti mas douleuoun cilo-gazi me tis taxuthtes tou AGP. :evil:

An 8umamai kala den prepei na bghke M/B gia P2 me AGPx2, opote prepei thn 9700pro na thn ebale se aplo AGPx1 slot. H 9600 logika einai se AGPx8.

Oso kaluterh karta kai na einai h 9700 apo th stigmh pou 8a anagkazotan na exei to 1/8 tou transfer rate ths 9600, 8a eprepe logika na patwnei sto test.

Opote h ta prwtokolla x2,x4 kai x8 einai moufa h den exoun bgalei akoma VGA pou an ekmetalleuontai autes tis taxuthtes (mallon to 1o).

[stako]

To sumperasma pou bgazw apo auto to test einai oti mas douleuoun cilo-gazi me tis taxuthtes tou AGP. :evil:

An 8umamai kala den prepei na bghke M/B gia P2 me AGPx2' date=' opote prepei thn 9700pro na thn ebale se aplo AGPx1 slot. H 9600 logika einai se AGPx8.

Oso kaluterh karta kai na einai h 9700 apo th stigmh pou 8a anagkazotan na exei to 1/8 tou transfer rate ths 9600, 8a eprepe logika na patwnei sto test.

Opote h ta prwtokolla x2,x4 kai x8 einai moufa h den exoun bgalei akoma VGA pou an ekmetalleuontai autes tis taxuthtes (mallon to 1o).[/quote']

 

Nomizo oti den einai akribos etsi. Apla mallon oi kartes den poly xrisimopoioun ti RAM tou sistimatos. Xrisimopoioun kyrios (an oxi mono) tin onboard mnimi pou exoun i opoia einai poly pio grigori lysi apo to na xrisimopoioun tin RAM. Mexri na perasoun apo to AGP bus ktl...........fekse mou kai glistrisa...........eksallou 128 MB einai yperarketa gia oidipote (....mexri tora.....xexe....)

 

Opote kai AGP x0.5 na itan.........to idio einai...........! :oops:

 

Ola ayta bebaia me kathe epifilaksy etsi......? Den dilono eidikos sta graphics............. :roll:

[lefterhs]

Kala, kaneis den einai O expert. Koubenta kanoume gia osa exoume akousei kai diabasei mpas kai bgaloume akrh me auta ta koutia pou exoume mple3ei...

Dikio exeis, oti to AGP xrhsimopoieitai kuriws gia na exei grhgorh prosbash h VGA sth kuria mnhmh. Xrhsimopoieitai omws kai gia thn epikoinwnia CPU me th VGA arketa kai gia auto ftiaxthke kai to fast writes:

Fast Writes allows the CPU to send data directly to the graphics bus without having to go through system memory (removing a bottleneck) and it also frees up the system memory bus allowing it to perform other functions. Fast Writes improves performance on certain calculations from the CPU to the GPU, which include these four main areas:

2D operations

Operations involving writing data to the frame buffer or sending data to the graphics chip

Loading textures in D3D into local memory

Writing push buffers to graphics local memory (should be where the greatest benefit of the benefit will be had).

[MY80-]

Apo th mia exei gemisei parapona to net oti to 2001 einai poly cpu limited (tha deis POLY MEGALYTERO JUMP stous pontous an pas apo 2ghz se 3ghz apo oti an pas apo 9500pro se 9800pro as poume), kai twra tous peirazei pou to 03 kanei auto pou eprepe na kanei ?

To sumperasma pou bgazw apo auto to test einai oti mas douleuoun cilo-gazi me tis taxuthtes tou AGP.

An 8umamai kala den prepei na bghke M/B gia P2 me AGPx2, opote prepei thn 9700pro na thn ebale se aplo AGPx1 slot. H 9600 logika einai se AGPx8.

Oso kaluterh karta kai na einai h 9700 apo th stigmh pou 8a anagkazotan na exei to 1/8 tou transfer rate ths 9600, 8a eprepe logika na patwnei sto test.

Opote h ta prwtokolla x2,x4 kai x8 einai moufa h den exoun bgalei akoma VGA pou an ekmetalleuontai autes tis taxuthtes (mallon to 1o).

Kyriws to agp bus xrhsimopoieitai gia 2 prammata.

Gia agp texturing (auto pou eipe o stako, kai, gia na eimaste eilikrineis, gia na mhn kanoun voutia ta fps otan xrisimopoieitai agp texturing, oxi agp8x, agp80x thes ) kai gia th metafora textures ktl sthn karta (Dld to loading ston p4 htane poly pio grhgoro apo oti ston p2).

[ASIMOS]

ego ena exo na sibliroso.ean cpu1>cpu2 se sixnotita tote den sinenei cpu1>cpu2 se taxitita.pezei poli rolo i arxitektoniki tou cpu.tsagia