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The Matrix Reloaded - Full Spoilers Topic


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Δημοσ.

ok, mallon to 0.1% einai apla ena noumero gia na deiksei (autos pou to postare protos) oti einai poli mikro pososto apo tous anthropous tou Matrix pou katafernoun na ginoun unpluged (?) apo auto.

 

tora auto pou lete gia matrix within a matrix, pos akribos to enoeite?

oti allo to Matrix to gnosto kai allo ena Matrix, auto pou einai i Zion, oooooooooooor einai eeeeeeeeeeeeena kai mono Matrix kai stin proti fasi, kai kala, ginontai unpluged oi anthropoi, alla stin ousia den ginontai, apla paramenoun mesa sto ena-gnosto Matrix? Gia auto kai o Neo exei akoma tis dinameis tou mesa ston kosmo tiz zion, giati stin ousia, einai akoma mesa sto matrix (kati tetoio den enouses Cue, or kano lathos?

 

 

oson afora ton Architect kai ton tropo pou milaei kai auta pou leei, ta leei etsi opos ta leei giati poli apla, einai mixani pou milaei ste anthropo...

nomizo oti to leei (emesa) kai ston neo apo tin arxi tis sizitisis:

You have many questions, and although the process has altered

your

consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers

you

will understand, and some of them you will not.

 

btw, auto to petagma tou Neo einai ligo koulo. Oxi oti den stekei, eipame, einai o kiriarxos tou Matrix, oti thelei kanei o anthropos, alla den mporousan na broun kati allo? Na tilemetaferete, as poume? den mporei na to kanei auto?

 

simfono me ton Narayan oson afora tin apantisi sto proto erotima tou Toufa.

Plakonoun oi Smith meta tin Oracle, giati brikan oti ekei einai o Neo kai ithelan na ton skotosoun. Kai poli apla, i Oracle efige gia na min faei kamia ksofaltsi kai bgalei mple othoni <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

 

Oson afora to poios thelei na skotosei ton Neo, einai fisika o Smith sto soma tou Bein (pos grafete auti i malakia?)

 

tora ti rolo barame o merovigian kai h persephone, auto to psaxno akoma <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

 

O tipas apo to simboulio, ekei pou elege gia tis mixanes stin Zion, ithele na deiksei auti tin eironia (opos eipe kai kapoios proigoumenos), oti iparxoun mixanes pou tis xreiazontai oi anthropoi gia na zisoun kai iparxoun mixanes pou xreiazontai tous anthropous gia na zisoun.

 

tora sto telos, mipos telika leme malakies kai o Neo den exei dinameis ston kosmo tis zion, alla ta zoakia pou ton kinigousan epesan apo kanena asxeto EMP kapoiou skafous pou itan ekei? or apo to skafos pou ekseragei (an mporei na ginei kati tetoio)?

 

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sto telos, epeidi den prosexa kai toso poli, se poio skafos einai to soma tou Neo kai toi Bein? sto "Logos" tis niovis? Mipos auto to skafos xtipise me EMP ta zoakia? kai an egine kati tetoio, o Neo giati epese lipothimos kai den epese kai i Trinity pou itan merika metra pio pera?

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Δημοσ.
Jastonas

said:

klark2000

said:

Otan to eida sto cinema mou thimize kati san to wing-wung... (elpizo na to egrapsa sosta)

 

ying yang nomizw.... h yin yan.... kati tetoio.

 

Μισό μισό το πέτυχες, yin yung είναι <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Δημοσ.
Edgar

said:

ok, mallon to 0.1% einai apla ena noumero gia na deiksei (autos pou to postare protos) oti einai poli mikro pososto apo tous anthropous tou Matrix pou katafernoun na ginoun unpluged (?) apo auto.

 

Το ποσοστο αυτό το είχε πει ο architect:

As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution

whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as

long as

they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice

at a

near unconscious level.

Δημοσ.

epidi ipe 99.9% den simenei oti to 0.1% exei olo metafethei stin zion, afou akoma e3akolouthoun na eleftheronun anthropous...

 

Gia to emp, malon to skafos pou erxotan ekane emp. To skafos tou morfea den ekane emp epidi anixnefsan bomva kai den ixan xrono. O neo isos epese 3eros epidi dextike mia proti epithesi apo ta sentinels prin katastrafoun. (Min to psaxnete alo afti tin teleftea skini, tha 3ekatharisei sto revolution)

 

O again smith exei eleftherothei apo ta kathikonta tou san praktoras, alla e3akolouthei na einai programa programatismeno gia ena skopo, na katastrepsei to neo.

Otan mpike sto soma tou bane(etsi grafete telika, to vrika apo to http://www.thematrix.com) o smith esthanete pleon ta anthropina sinesthimata.

Etsi ton kirievei to kalitero, to misos kai i apolafsei tis ekdikiseis (yea!!!)

 

o neo se mia fasi leei "wait, I can feel them" kati tha leei gia matrix within a matrix, i apla to pezei o neo poli anoteros kai exei tin entiposi oti elexei kai to "pragmatiko" kosmo (zion). Se kapoies kritikes gia to matrix 1 diavasa to e3eis "giati o neo dektike ton kosmo pou tou edi3o o morfeas xoreis peretero apodi3eis, giati den amfisvitise ean afto einai o pragmatikos kosmos?" enta3i stin arxi den to dektike me efkolia, alla meta to xonepse!!! tha einai megali m@l@kia na vgei matrix within the matrix.

 

P.S. I oracle edose afthona paradigmata gia to an iparxei epilogi i oxi (spazontas ta nevra tou neo!!!). An thimaste sto 1o tou ipe "tha sou elega na kahtiseis ma den prokite na kathiseis" eno sto 2o tou ipe na kathise kai aftos arxika arnithike kai telika kathise!! Ekino me tis karameles itan to top!!!

Δημοσ.

Λοιπόν έχω μια ΠΟΛΥ extreme θεωρία για την ατάκα του Μορφέα "He fight for us".

 

Δε λέει Neo fight for us, αλλά το αφήνει σε τρίτο ενικό πρόσωπο. Τι μας λέει οτι τελικά ο Smith δεν πολεμάει για χάρη των ανθρώπων. Ξέρω οτι ακούγεται τεράστια μαλακία αλλά δεν υπάρχει που να τεκμηριώνει το ακριβώς αντίθετο...

Δημοσ.

eida deuterh fora thn tainia. parathrhsa polla... alla dysthxws o blakas den ta egrapsa katw. dysthxws thn eblepa milontas tautoxrona k sto irc...:P isws thn ksanadw se 2 meres cinema. tespa..... 2 mikra points na anaferw.....

o typos ths persefonhs merovigian pws legetai.... leei sto neo : "i have survived your predecesors and i will survive you..." opote xalara den htan "the one" pote tou...! epishs sto telos pou stamataei o neo ta sentinels leei "something is different"! den to xei ksanapei kapou auto h kanw la8os? pantws... me emp stamatane ta sentinels... auto to parathrhsa! auto shmainei pws h einai matrix se matrix k o neo mporese na prokalesei emp, h den einai se matrix k to emp prohl8e apo to ship... h to deutero..... KAI einai kai matrix se matrix...;p

 

ena akoma ligo asxeto.... o keymaker leei pws h wra pou 8a xoun gia na mpoun sto ktirio einai 314 deuterolepta.....!:P π = 3.14 :P

 

The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to

accept. - mhpws ennoei oti yparxoun polla levels of matrixes?:P

 

Δημοσ.

oxi enwei pws einai ikanoi na zhsoun kai xwris tous anthrwpous ala se pio mikro bathmo.ayto pou de katalaba egw epeidh thn eida sta aglika einai an o neo dialexe thn idia porta me tous prohgoumenous eklektous

Δημοσ.

oxi ...... ypoti8etai pws dialekse thn porta pou DEN dialeksan oi ypoloipoi.... twra leme ypoti8etai giati ola einai eikasies mexri na doume to 3. alloi lene pws oute alloi eklektoi den yphrksan.... pantws to pio sigouro einai pws yphrksan k dialeksane thn allh porta.....

Δημοσ.

toulaxiston allos enas eklektos ypirxe. Afou sto Matrix to 1 o morfeus leei sto neo oti eixe genithei kapote sto matrix kapoios pou eixe tin ikanotita na to alla3ei opos autos ithele, kai oti itan autos pou eleutherose tous protous anthropous(tous 23 logika pou elege o arxitektonas). Ara afou ypirxe akomi enas sto parelthon giati na min yparxan kai alloi...

 

 

kati pou thimithika simera apo tin tainia:

stin arxi tou ergou otan exoun mazeutei oloi kai paei o morfeas me tin trinity kai ton neo, lene oti tous epitithontai oi mixanes me 250.000 strato, kai leei oti oi mixanes antistoixoun 1 gia kathe katoiko tis zion. Pou i3eran omos oi mixanes posoi einai mesa sti zion??? to mono pou mporousan na ipologisoun einai to posoun eleutheronan....

Δημοσ.

re paidia... exo kairo na do to Matrix to 1 kai exo mia aporia...

pos epikoinonousan oi neo, trinity kai i parea tous otan itan sto matrix me ton operator tou ship tous ston real world?

 

Δημοσ.

AAAAAAANTE RE MEGALEEEEEEEE... <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

auto to katalaba re...

enoo, pos itan auti i "grammi" tou "tilefonou" pou eixan sto real world...

kai giati den mporousan mesa apo to kinito tilefono na metaferthoun ston real world?

 

(re gamoto... prepei na ksanado to 1... <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> )

 

Δημοσ.

Pws kai den kseroun kai oi alloi anthrwpoi gia tous 5 "Neo"??Den tha eprepe na exoun dei toulaxiston 1-2 apo aytous kai na exoun akousei istories giatousypoloipous?

 

Spastiko:Ma kala,oles oi moures stin Zion itan Amerikanoi kai na milane Agglika??Thewritika me tin pleiopsifia na einai Kinezoi,Rwssoi ktl den tha eprepe estw kapoios na einai Oriental??Ektos an ta Amerikanakia eleftherwnan mono Amerikanakia(pou se pragmatikes synthikes itan kai to pio pithano :P)

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