The Matrix Reloaded - Full Spoilers Topic

[vlachaquito]

Agent Smith explained

Agent Smith is the only "human" in this world. He's the one spreading himself like a virus replicating himself over and over until the Matrix will finally get overloaded and fail. Smith is the one who wants to get out of the Matrix for good. He said so in the first Matrix, "I must get out of here, I must get free! And in this mind, is the key," squeezing Morpheus's temples, "my key! Once Zion is destroyed, there is no need for me to be here!" Smith knows that by killing Neo he can escape the Matrix because Neo is the key to resetting the Matrix, or to shut it off. It was originally killing Neo (in the first Matrix) that allowed Smith to become powerful (cloning ability) - so killing Neo again will allow him to gain Neo's powers completely, and thus gain the power to shut down the Matrix.

So where the hell did Smith come from if he wants to destroy the Matrix? He's obviously not meant to be there - he's a computer virus as he has every haracteristic of a virus - he multiplies and spreads and infects (and emulates) other programs like one. He is exactly as he described humans at the end of the first Matrix - "You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus." But who put him there? This will only be revealed in Revolutions (Revelations?) I guess - but I'm betting on humans in the real real world, i.e., outside of Zion and the Matrix. They're at war with the

machines and trying to destroy them by infecting them with this virus - Agent Smith. So the irony with this theory is that Agent Smith represents the human race!! Neo represents the machines! Agent Smith says to Neo just after he's seen the Oracle that he became free when Neo destroyed him in the first Matrix (remember when Neo entered his body and exploded him from inside out) - as a virus, Smith has the ability to "inherit" other programs' abilities and thus inherited some of Neo's.

 

The anomaly explained

The anomaly is all the humans that do not accept the Matrix. The Architect says "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a

harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control."

This includes Neo, but Neo's Matrix avatar is attached with the One program so that he can follow his purpose as explained earlier under "The One explained". However, he is also supposed to protect himself and destroy anything that gets in his way - i.e., Agent Smith - so that he may fulfil his purpose. Further proving Neo - and other non-accepters of the Matrix - are the anomaly, the Architect says, "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix." The clue here is Neo's program name - "The One". Take one-third for example. 1 over 3 is 0.33333 recurring. A computer cannot deal with recurring numbers, so must accept a limit, let's say 0.33333 for argument's sake. Multiply by 3, you get 0.99999 - never 1.00000, where has the "remainder" 0.00001 (One) gone? This is the limitation of computers, this is the mathematical imprecision inherent in programming (of the Matrix) and the eventuality of the One anomaly unable to be eliminated

[vlachaquito]

What is the equation then?

Not sure, but it definitely involves pi. The Keymaker refers to the window of time to open the door to the mainframe as 314 seconds. 3.14 is pi to three sig. figs., or the number of radians in half a circle. Half a circle is like the cross-section of a womb, similar to the alcove of Neo and Trinity's love scene - conceiving the next

One? "NEO", incidently, is an anagram of "ONE". Trinity and Neo - one on one; a choice - one or one. Leads us to 101. "101" is mentioned numerous times

in Matrix 1 and Reloaded. Neo's room at the beginning, Merovingian is on the 101st floor, the 101 freeway of the car chase in Reloaded, then when Trinity is hacking into the power plant system, she resets the password to Z10N0101. Freaky. Indicates that she is a program because that's not some random password she's put in. 101 is binary for 5, which in zero-based binary counting: 000 is 1, 001, is 2, 010 is 3, 011 is 4, 100 is 5, 101 is 6 - And this is the 6th version of the Matrix! Then there's 303. 303 is the room Neo got shot in Matrix 1, the Oracle lives in room 303, it's also the hotel room number Trinity is in in Matrix 1 and it's seen at the end when Neo fights the Agents and Smith and begins to literally see the code that makes up the Matrix. 101 x 3 = 303, a trilogy, 3 + 0 + 3 = 6 = the 6th Matrix. Trinity means 3.

 

Who is the "mother" that the Architect refers to?

The Architect says, "Please," in an almost disapproving sense when Neo suggests the Oracle, but does not reveal who it really is or even directly that Neo is wrong. The architect was the one who created the Matrix; the co-creator is neither Persephone nor the Oracle. Both of them are only programs that have a purpose in the matrix, just like the rest. The Architect is in charge of the Matrix world and the co-creator is in charge of Zion. She has almost the same age as

the Architect. Therefore, that woman is the Head Counsellor, the only woman of importance that lives in Zion and the one who asked for the two captains

to volunteer at the council meeting. She's the one who knew all along about the Matrix. She was the one who told Zion's Defence Minister to cool off and to let Morpheus do his work so things could go as planned. Or alternatively, it could indeed be the Oracle. She is the only program that truly wants humans to have a free choice... at the same time, she sees the future, because she knows the program code - she is like God - which is why Seraph protects her - see "Who is

Seraph?" below.

 

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What's so special about Neo's avatar?

Neo is a skilled hacker, and his avatar in the Matrix is based on the person that founded the AI of the original machines that eventually took over the world... How? Take a look at the disc he gave to the bloke at the door at the beginning of Matrix 1. It said "DISC AI" on it. The hollowed book Neo takes the disc out of is "Simulacra and Simulation" - a collection of essays by the French postmodernist philosopher Jean Baudrillard. He opens it to the section "on Nihilism" (meaning nothing is truly known, etc.). "Baudrillard's concept of simulation is the creation of the real through conceptual or 'mythological' models which have no connection or origin in reality. The model becomes the determinant of our perception of reality--the real." And Morpheus says, "Welcome to the desert of the real," in Matrix 1. I'd say this book describes The Matrix to a tee. So this disc contains the key to the AI, and thus how to destroy the machines, so I think they'll use this info in Revolutions to ultimately destroy the machines, which means he'll have to go back to the nightclub and find the guy he gave it to.

 

Who is Seraph?

The reason Seraph (the chink guy Neo meets before meeting the Oracle) had golden code and was so spectacular is that he came from the first incarnation of the matrix, which was heaven. "Seraph" is singular for the plural "seraphim". The seraphim are the highest choir of angels and included amongst others: Lucifer, Gabriele, Raziel and Malaciah, and they sit on the 8th level of Heaven just one below God. So Seraph will obviously have a big part in Revolutions, but whose

side will he be on - the machines or the humans?? That is the question.

 

The Twins

They are exiled programs that emulate the human myth of ghosts as the Oracle explained. They are programs behaving badly. Persephone killed one of the Merovingian's bodyguards with a silver bullet because he was emulating a werewolf. So if the Twins could phase into ghost form, why didn't he when his arm was trapped in the door of the garage? Was it because he was wounded or because he can't phase when his arm is trapped? No of course not. The doors of that building, when shut, always led somewhere else (usually in the mountains) when opened again without the Keymaker's key. So if it were slammed shut due to the Twin phasing into ghost form, the Twin's arm would've ended up god knows where, but certainly not attached to the Twin's body.

[vlachaquito]

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[georgeadams]

vlachaquito

said:

paidia den ksero an exei anaferthei parapano(den mporo na diavazo toses selides!!

 

Ίσως θα έπρεπε να διάβαζες λίγο πιο πάνω, το κείμενο που έγραψες έχει αναφερθεί λίγες ημέρες πριν <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> στη μορφή που το γράφεις κι εσύ, αλλά και λίγο καλύτερα μορφοποιημένο σε link 2 μόλις posts πριν το δικό σου:

 

CyberWalker

said:

Ωραία. Αφού ενδιαφέρει αρκετό κόσμο τελικά είπα να το ανεβάσω πρόχειρα στο :

 

http://imagesforinsomnia.tripod.com/Spoiler.htm

 

 

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[PeLLaRaS]

no comment!

 

btw sto kimeno afto iparxoun antifaseis kai den simfono se ola, kirios gia to oti i zion einai *apodigmena* programa

[privateer]

Kapou diabasa oti to fili ths Monica einai ena eidos link

[Edgar]

Link se ti?

mipos einai kanena patch kai auto? kai logo autou stamatise ta sentinels o neo?

 

alla..... sto Enter the Matrix, i monica filaei kai ton Ghost kai tin Niobe... (analoga me to poion tha pareis) alla den thimamai na allakse tipota stous xaraktires...

[HaPagan]

Άρα αφού φιλάει και άλλους μπορούμε να θεωρήσουμε ότι είναι και αυτή ένα είδους πρόγραμμα που αναλόγως την περίπτωση προσδίδει κάποιες ιδιότητες σε αυτόν που φιλάει .

[privateer]

Kai na allaze Edgar siga mh sto deixnane.Ayto 8a htan huge spoiler gia to 3

[Edgar]

ma nomizo oti eixame kataliksei oti i Persephone einai programma...

tora to " ti idiotites exei to fili tis", auto einai mia alli istoria....

 

 

BTW, prin apo ligo to brika..... to exete dei auto?

[Vaghelas]

Συγνώμη που θα σας γυρίσω λίγο πίσω αλλά θέλω να κάνω μια ερώτηση. Κάποιοι είπαν ότι δίνεται μεγάλη σημασία στη σκηνή που κάνει έρωτα ο Neo με την Trinity γιατί έτσι θα γεννηθεί ο επόμενος One. Στο πρώτο Matrix όμως είδαμε ότι οι άνθρωποι δε γεννιούνται πια αλλά καλλιεργούνται. Άρα πως θα γεννηθεί από την Trinity ο επόμενος One;

[HaPagan]

Συγνώμη που θα σας γυρίσω λίγο πίσω αλλά θέλω να κάνω μια ερώτηση. Κάποιοι είπαν ότι δίνεται μεγάλη σημασία στη σκηνή που κάνει έρωτα ο Neo με την Trinity γιατί έτσι θα γεννηθεί ο επόμενος One. Στο πρώτο Matrix όμως είδαμε ότι οι άνθρωποι δε γεννιούνται πια αλλά καλλιεργούνται. Άρα πως θα γεννηθεί από την Trinity ο επόμενος One;

 

Φαντάζομαι ότι επειδή και ο Νίο και η Τρίνιτι είναι "ελευθερωμένοι" από το Μάτριξ μπορούμε να κάνουν παιδιά ! Οι μηχανές χρησιμοποιούν τις καλλιέργιες ανθρώπων , αυτό δεν σημαίνει ότι οι άνθρωποι δεν μπορούν να αναπαραχθούν μόνοι τους .

[Vaghelas]

Συγνώμη που θα σας γυρίσω λίγο πίσω αλλά θέλω να κάνω μια ερώτηση. Κάποιοι είπαν ότι δίνεται μεγάλη σημασία στη σκηνή που κάνει έρωτα ο Neo με την Trinity γιατί έτσι θα γεννηθεί ο επόμενος One. Στο πρώτο Matrix όμως είδαμε ότι οι άνθρωποι δε γεννιούνται πια αλλά καλλιεργούνται. Άρα πως θα γεννηθεί από την Trinity ο επόμενος One;

 

Φαντάζομαι ότι επειδή και ο Νίο και η Τρίνιτι είναι "ελευθερωμένοι" από το Μάτριξ μπορούμε να κάνουν παιδιά ! Οι μηχανές χρησιμοποιούν τις καλλιέργιες ανθρώπων ' date=' αυτό δεν σημαίνει ότι οι άνθρωποι δεν μπορούν να αναπαραχθούν μόνοι τους .[/quote']

 

Άρα ο Νίο και η Τρίνιτi είναι άνθρωποι και όχι προγράμματα μέσα στο matrix.

[Edgar]

an ipothesoume oti i zion den einai matrix mesa sto matrix kai oti oi trinity kai neo einai kanonikoi anthropoi, asxeta an o neo einai o One, to paidi pou tha kanei me tin Trinity pote ton poton den prokeitai na einai o epomenos One, giati poli apla, den tha mporei na mpei sto matrix! pou tha tou bazoun ta bismata? ston kolo kai sta autia? afou tha genithei ston pragmatiko kosmo, den ta exei plugs sto soma tou kai den tha mporei na mpei sto matrix.