Xbox 360 Hacking v2

[furious99]

Μεχρι στιγμης,ολα καλα,μην το ματιασω,αν εξαιρεσουμε τον θορυβο,κανει αρκετο η κονσολα(κυριως το drive,γιατι ο θορυβος ειναι πιο εντονος οταν παιζω καποιο παιχνιδι).

 

Αν το φλασάρεις μόνος σου, που δεν είναι και φοβερά δύσκολο, έχεις 2 πλεονεκτήματα:

 

1. Όποτε βγαίνει καινούριο firmware το αναβαθμίζεις εύκολα και ανέξοδα

 

2. Κάθε firmware βγαίνει σε 4 εκδόσεις ταχύτητας - θορύβου του drive: 2χ, 5χ, 8χ, 12χ. Δοκιμάζεις και βλέπεις ποια σου κάνει. Εγώ π.χ. το έχω στα 5χ και δεν ακούω καθόλου το drive, μόνο οι ανεμιστήρες ακούγονται, και χωρίς σοβαρές επιπτώσεις στην ταχύτητα...

[jimaros]

Υπαρχουν dvd dl -r????

[christos.p25]

furious99 to assassin's creed sou paizei kanonika me 5x taxythta?

 

jimaros yparxoun dvd dl -r.

http://www.megamarket.gr/verbatimdvdrdl85gb4xjewelcase5-p-26200.html

[bter128]

Υπαρχουν dvd dl -r????

 

http://www.supermediastore.com/verbatim-4x-dual-double-layer-95165.html

[furious99]

furious99 to assassin's creed sou paizei kanonika me 5x taxythta?

 

 

Έχω παίξει μόνο 1-2 πίστες, μόνο μια αισθητή καθυστέρηση στο φόρτωμα είδα, καθόλου κολλήματα...

[Bougas]

furious99 to assassin's creed sou paizei kanonika me 5x taxythta?

 

και εμενα μια χαρα παιζει φιλε.ολα τα παιχνιδια παιζουν μια χαρα σε 5χ. ειχες κανα προβλημα εσυ?

[stathakis21]

παιδια εγω με ixtreme 1.4 και με το COD4 που ειναι 100% stealth να δωκιμασω να παιξω online η οχι???

[gust]

Να και κατι ενδιαφερον για τις θεωριες περι banιων ....ειναι μεγαλο για να το μεταφρασω αλλα οσοι θελετε διαβαστε το....ο τυπος που το ποσταρε φαινεται να ξερει πολλα!

 

The reason that this was even brought to people's attention is that the 12v mod is detectable and is a sure way for MS to see if you've opened your box. It is not confirmed that they are definitely banning based on this information only, because every person who's had this 12v mod that was banned ( that we know of) , has also had modified firmware, including the person who was told by ms he was banned for fan moding. So think of it as more of a warning, but if they wanted to, they could ban you for it, since it does breach the tos. Those who're skeptical of them actually being able to detect this, hint, can a 360 run with no fans for extended periods of time ? it can't even run with the fans for long heh. tongue.gif

 

There are a few things that people don't seem to understand. So I'll explain. The challenge response table is comprised of the challenges, and the responses... the challenges are for checking certain areas of the disc. The way around this right now is by grabbing the proper responses during the backup process with a 360 drive and making a table of what the drive should respond with...the proper values, and then they're stored in a table within the ss.bin .

 

The c/r timings are the amount of time seeking data between certain sectors takes and expects a certain amount of time out of the stock firmware/drive hardware/ original disc for reading. There's a formula for this to convert to angles. So, if the drive inquires and c4eva's hacked firmware replies right away, because we already have the answer in a table, the timing is not right, so what c4eva does is figure out how long it takes to do each task, and then make the drive firmware respond at that same speed (very basic explanation). The "jitter" that people are talking about is just a variation in this response. The "proper" values for discs so far for the responses have been 0 90 180 and 270, and with hardware, this can vary. On SS rips from a 360 samsung drive you will find that each one of these varies, and the amount of times that it's actually 0,90,180,270 is low compared to others.

 

 

This process starts at the point of ripping the game because the values in our SS are the way the drive which ripped the game (which is supposed to emulate how the drive when in a 360 reads it) are comprised out of it. So, the reason kreon has to fake the values at these certain points is because the kreon drive most likely will not respond with the same info as the 360 samsung due to slight differences in hardware. If kreon did not replicate the timing of the 360 drive we would have values that only that specific drive would produce, which may not be correct since it is not a 360 drive. So 0 90 180 and 270 are hardcoded responses he put in, and he added "jitter" to it, because even microsoft knows that those exact responses don't happen every time. So if they did get those exact values every time, it would be detectable.

 

The whole issue with "bad" kreon rips, well, that's not actually true. In ixtreme firmware, +0/1 is added to the response for the same reason kreon added it. When you have a value of 359 and you add 1 to it, it should go back to 0 instead of 360, which is not valid, but ix was reporting back with 360, so that was detectable. It was not that 6701 was bad, it was how that value was handled. Because kreon made the response to vary, 0 was changed to 359 (6701) much more than an original samsung drive has been doing with more recent discs because of his adding -1 from 0 . But, after extensive testing, 360 drives were able to produce 359 on newer games, though it was a very insignificant amount of times comparatively (2 out of 500). C4eva wrapped values in 1.4 so it's fixed.

 

This is entirely dependent on the drive. This type of protection is/was used on pc games a lot, if you look up starforce you can find more info about similar processes, but the range for that is much much higher (+ or - 45 degrees). With the 360 drives, it has been found that bad drives can produce some pretty crazy angles, or just write 000000 in certain responses sometimes, and all over the place other times. These are produced with original 360 drives So really, it's a shotty way of detecting backup discs, might be a better way to detect shotty hardware though because surely they must know that a majority of the ss of backed up games have good values.

 

 

So overall

 

1) Should you do/keep the 12v fan mod? not if you want to play on live

 

2) should you use kreon checker for "bad" ss? yes if you're on anything other than 1.4, no if you're on 1.4. And that name should really be changed to 6701 checker because it can and has been produced by 360 drives, not just kreon.

 

3) why are bannings/unbannings happening? there is no way to know 100% why ms ever ban, only what can be done to prevent detection. The responses from bad drives is a very good reason why bannings could be happening to people who don't have modified firmware, there is also a lot more involved in the timings that could or could not be happening. It would be nice if people stayed away from speculating when it comes to who is or is not wrong, because it can piss people off who are doing the work.

[skar1983]

παιδια εγω με ixtreme 1.4 και με το COD4 που ειναι 100% stealth να δωκιμασω να παιξω online η οχι???

 

οχι γιατί θα σε bannaroun πολύ πιθανόν και αν όχι αμέσως σε λίγο καιρό.

[okomota]

Δεν είναι και τεράστια η διαφορά όσο περιμέναμε. Τα reports από το εξωτερικό δεν είναι και τόσο ευχάριστα. Τα μηχανάκια πάλι σκάνε όπως πρώτα. Δεν έχει λυθεί το πρόβλημα ακόμα.

 

Όταν αλλάξουν την άθλια κατασκευή που έχει από την αρχή και μικρύνουν και τον πυρήνα της Gpu που εκεί είναι το πρόβλημα ίσως κάτι να κάνουν.

 

Kai pote me to kalo tha ginei kati teteio? Exoume kamia endiksi? Tha to ftiaksoun pote oi apateones ?

 

Telika den exoun apokriptografisei akoma ti ennoia tou LOT kai tou team h tou serial number?

[78906]

Ενας θεός ξέρει πότε θα το φτιάξουν και αν θα το φτιάξουν αυτό το πρόβλημα της πολύ καλής κονσόλας της microsoft.

 

Άλλωστε η microsoft είναι ένας κολοσσός στο sotware εδώ και καιρό και τώρα προσπαθεί να εδραιωθεί και στον κόσμο των κονσολών που εώς τώρα έκανε περίπατο η sony με τα playstation 1 & 2.

[jimaros]

Κολοσσος????Αερα πουλαει συνεχεια...Ουτε τα windows δεν ειναι δικα τους..

[78906]

Και ποιας εταιρίας είναι?

Αφού microsoft windows δεν λέγονται?

[jimaros]

Χαχαχα..Καλα καλα οτι πεις..Μαθε πρωτα ποιοι εφτιαξαν και ποιοι αγορασαν τα windows και μετα ποσταρε..

 

Edit: Σνιφ σνιφ...Proxy μυριζομαι....

[MiltoZ]

Κολοσσος????Αερα πουλαει συνεχεια...Ουτε τα windows δεν ειναι δικα τους..

 

Ε όχι και αέρα. Τα gamerankings και η γενική παροδοχή της υπεροχής του xbox live αποδεικνύουν το αντίθετο.