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Το καλύτερο θα ήταν να έχει γνώμη !!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Πάντως αν σας τύχει η παραπάνω περίπτωση είναι καλή φάση. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

 

ΑΛΛΑ, δεν μένουμε σε αυτά ΟΚ; <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

<small>[ 29-07-2002, 14:40: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: timiman ]</small>

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Re paidia, xalarwste ligaki, den einai ta pragmata toso xalia oso ta lete...

 

Kat'arxhn, gia to thema ths syzhthshs me ta koritsia pistevw pws oi syntages kai oi symvoules den exoun shmasia. Vgaineis me thn kopela kai eisai afthormitos kai afthentikos. An exete koina endiaferonta kai an genikotera tairiazete kapws, ta pramgata tha pane mia xara. An afta den yparxoun, oso kai na to zorizeis, oso kai na prospatheis, meta apo ligo kairo kai esy tha kourasteis na prospatheis kai h kopela tha katalavei oti to endiaferon kai h omilitikothta den htan alithina, kai tha teleiwsei h douleia. Synepws giati na to paidevei kaneis to thema adika? An yparxoun oi proypotheseis kai pernaei kala kai to agori kai to koritsi, ola kala, an oxi apla den ksanavgainoun kai teleiwnei...

 

Oso gia to oti oi gynaikes theloun megalyterous, lefta, amaksia kai ola ta synafh, nomizw pws den einai akrivws etsi. Safws einai para polles aftes oi "kokoromyales", gia na mhn pw tipota xeirotero, pou exoun afta ta krithria. Opws akrivws antistoixa yparxoun antres pou to mono pou tous endiaferei einai poso emfanisimh kai poso efkolh einai mia kopela, kai fysika endiaferontai na kanoun alla pragmata, oxi sxesh.

 

Yparxoun omws kai kopeles pou den tous endiaferoun ta ylika agatha kai h mostra, alla h ousia tou pragmatos, kai endiaferontai na vroun ena kalo paidi, pou na epikoinwnoun pramgatika, na noiazetai o enas gia ton allon...

Opws antistoixa yparxoun kai t'agoria pou psaxnoun na vroun kopela gia kati perissotero apo to swmatiko...

 

Ta pramgata sth thewria tous toulaxiston loipon einai apla: Oi "kokoromyaloi" me tis "kokoromyales" kai ta wrima paidia me ta wrima koritsia. An h allh thelei mhxanes kai istories, as paei na ta vrei kai mhn asxoleiste, opws antistoixa, an o allos psaxnei 15xrona pipinia na tous mathei thn texnh tou erwta, den exei logo na ton koitaksei mia kopela pou exei to myalo mesa sto kefali ths.Polla agoria, alla kai koritsia thn patane etsi. Den vlepoun oti o allos den aksizei kai psaxnei alla pragmata, ths/tou ta dinoun ola, plhgwnontai, kai meta psaxnoun giati. Ta dinoume ola otan o allos aksizei, alliws den tha to ektimhsei...Kai den exei nohma na vgaleis t'apothimena ston epomeno h sthn epomenh, mporei aftos na aksizei pragmatika, ti ftaiei na plhrwnei gia ton prohgoumeno...

 

Den yparxei wraiotero pragma apo to na eisai me kapoion pou na se gemizei kai na ton gemizeis. Oi empeiries kai oi peripeteies den exoun shmasia gia osoun psaxnoun kati tetoio, anexarthtws filou. Den pistevw oti mia kopela tha dysanasxethsei an to synomiliko kai apeiro agori ths dyskoleftei ligaki na vrei to "stoxo". Shmasia exei na einai kala mazi kai noiazetai o enas ton allon. Ola ta alla tha ta vroun mazi.

 

An kai exei perasei arketos kairos apo tote pou hmoun 17, thymamai oti oi symmathitries pou ta eixan me 25xronous den htan kai ta kalytera koritsia, oute ta pio sovara kai wrima...

Fysika omws kai oi 25xronoi den htan kai oi wrimoteroi antres... Pantws yphrxan kai yparxoun arketes 17xrones pou htan wrimes kai epsaxnan gia wrimous synomilikous (twra to an evriskan einai allo thema).

 

Anyway, to diko mou symperasma einai pws s'afton ton kosmo yparxoun diafora eidh anthrwpwn kai xarakthrwn. An o kathenas psaxnei afto pou tou tairiazei tha mporei otan to vrei na apolamvanei pramgatika afto pou exei... <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Epeidh ki egw egrapsa polla sto post, kai akomh perissotera exoun graftei parapanw, mporeis na mou peis gia poio thema akrivws theleis paradeigmata kai exoun parapono ta 6 afta atoma?

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ta pramgata sth thewria tous toulaxiston loipon einai apla: Oi "kokoromyaloi" me tis "kokoromyales" kai ta wrima paidia me ta wrima koritsia </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">se ayto kyrios, kai stis theseis sou sto teleyteo post sou

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by epote:

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Ta pramgata sth thewria tous toulaxiston loipon einai apla: Oi "kokoromyaloi" me tis "kokoromyales" kai ta wrima paidia me ta wrima koritsia </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">se ayto kyrios, kai stis theseis sou sto teleyteo post sou</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">den kserw an voithaei pouthena apla sumfwnw kapou me to kokoromualoi- /les ...genika pisteuw omoios ston omoio kai i kopria sta laxana..

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Ο μεγαλύτερος μύθος που υπάρχει είναι ότι οι γυναίκες ωριμάζουν νωρίτερα..απλά οι γυναίκες από την φύση τους,επειδή πρόκειται να γεννήσουν, υποτάσσονται γρηγορότερα στα κοινωνικά πρότυπα,αναπτύσσουν κοινωνικά επιθυμητές συμπεριφορέςφροντίζοντας υποσυνείδητα για την αυτοπροστασία τους και την διαιώνιση του είδους.

Ο κόσμος ποτέ δεν άλλαξε από μια γυναίκα,όπως και ποτέ δεν θα υπήρχε χωρίς τις γυναίκες,τους αφανείς κομπάρσους

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Roudolfa wraia ta les,alla adynatw na pistepsw oti 8a se trabh3ei to kalo paidi kai oxi o pseytomagakos ths geitonias(ennow kopela genika).

Eimai 25 xronwn kai blepw kopeles pou gnwriza na katalhgoun me kati teleiws a8lious (emfanisiaka kai oxi mono).

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8elw na pw dhladh oti den einai mono oi 17xrones pou koitane mono ta ylika aga8a poy exei kapoios sthn katoxh toy,alla kai oi 24-25xrones.

8a mou peite oti otan eisai se tetoia hlikia 8a prepei na exeis petyxei kapoia pragmata,symfwnoi ayto metra,alla den einai o katalytikos paragontas gia na prosegiseis mia kopela.

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file therock oson afora tis ilikies, ksero mia periptosi pou 17xroni ta exei me 27xrono (arage tora sto forum trexoun ta salia stous 27xronous xaxaxa)pou i kopela tou exei kanei na min po ti giati tha mpei ena terastio XXX sto forum, re si oso pernane oi genies olo kai pio ksekola vgainoun afou theloun ap'olo kai pio mikre na oloklirosoun. lipamai tous paterades (kapote tha eimaste kai emeis se ekeini tin thesi vevaia) vgainoun ekso me rouxa les kai den eixan lefta na paroun ligo parapano ifasma, xaxaxaxa... file therock aplos den goustaro na tis po kati tilefonika, den mou aresei kai isos na min tis aresei kai autis... oso gia eksoda logo kopelas min to sizitate...o logariasmos ote mou 369.000 ta leei ola pisteuo....oi 300.000 itan sto kinito tis... enas filos mou ta eixe me mia kopelia, ta pigainan poli kala ospou autos tis eipe oti tin agapaei kai tote auti arxise na ksenokoitazei kai xorisan...apo tote den ta dinei ola se mia sxesi. tou leo pos tin patises re si? mou leei: to m__ni kai ton paulo(etsi ton elegan) sernei...tou leo sinithos lene tin leksi ploio, mou leei: to ploio to legane paulo xaxaxaxaxaxa...na sas po den pisteuo oti oles oi ginaikes ferontai skarta alimono an to pisteua alla paizei rolos kai o xaraktiras, exo gnosti thea,pou ama tin deis ston dromo mono gia fili den tin thes kai omos ama gnoriseis ton xaraktira tis einai asta na pane...makria.. kai kati allo o,ti kai na leme pisteuo xoris tis ginaikes den zoume... einai to louloudi stin zoi mas <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> auti i sizitisi telika exei fasi...

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Egw re paidia pote oso ki an estipsa to mualo mou (leme twra... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> ) Na katalavw giati ena koritsi idias hlikias na thelei kapoion megalutero...kai san na mhn ftanei mono auto..lene oti emeis eimaste ta pitsirikia...!!!!!

Esu dld ti eisai mwrh???

Ta phra twra.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Ta pramgata sth thewria tous toulaxiston loipon einai apla: Oi "kokoromyaloi" me tis "kokoromyales" kai ta wrima paidia me ta wrima koritsia

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se ayto kyrios, kai stis theseis sou sto teleyteo post sou

 

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Afto pou prospathousa na pw sto post einai oti pragmati yparxoun polloi, gia na mhn pw oi perissoteroi, pou den skeftontai sovara gia to thema twn sxesewn, toso koritsia, oso kai agoria. An to agori einai sovaro, kai kynhghsei mia xazoviola pou koitaei ta lousa kai th magkia, to sigouro einai oti tha faei ta moutra tou, xwris na ftaiei se tipota. Antistoixa mia sovarh kopela pou tha asxolhthei me enan wraio kai magka typa me mhxanh kai ta sxetika, pali den tha katalhksei xaroumenh. To oti plhgwthike kaneis den exei na kanei panta me to lathos xeirismo mesa sth sxesh, alla kai me thn ex arxhs lathos epilogh tou proswpou.

 

Kserw periptwsh kopelas pou to palikari ths ferotan apsoga, kai afth ton xwrise giati htan poly kalos mazi ths! E, afth h kopela kata thn gnwmh mou exei provlhma, kai den einai swsto na thewrhsei to agori pou thn pathse oti oi gynaikes theloun na tis trexoun, apla prepei thn epomenh fora na proseksei kalytera ti dialegei. Otan h allh sou leei oti to agori einai kalo na einai kai ligo tsoglani, toulaxiston gia mena, den einai kai poly fysiologiko atomo...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Roudolfa wraia ta les,alla adynatw na pistepsw oti 8a se trabh3ei to kalo paidi kai oxi o pseytomagakos ths geitonias(ennow kopela genika).

Eimai 25 xronwn kai blepw kopeles pou gnwriza na katalhgoun me kati teleiws a8lious (emfanisiaka kai oxi mono).

8elw na pw dhladh oti den einai mono oi 17xrones pou koitane mono ta ylika aga8a poy exei kapoios sthn katoxh toy,alla kai oi 24-25xrones.

8a mou peite oti otan eisai se tetoia hlikia 8a prepei na exeis petyxei kapoia pragmata,symfwnoi ayto metra,alla den einai o katalytikos paragontas gia na prosegiseis mia kopela.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Parasko eite to pisteveis eite oxi, pragmatika o pseftomagakos ths geitonias den mou leei tipota. Kai prepei na diefkrinisw pws den me endiefere an to atomo exei lefta kai aftokinhta oute sta 17, kai eksakolouthei na mhn me endiaferei kai twra, sta 21. To kalo paidi, pou exei gia mena kapoia ekswterika xarakthristika pou na mou aresoun (s'emena, oxi aparaithta stous allous), safws me endiaferei poly perissotero.

Xwris na thelw na eimai apolyth, pistevw pws oi kopeles pou sta 15 kai 17 noiazontai gia tous magkes kai tous matswmenous den allazoun megalwnontas. Den wrimazei kaneis mono me thn hlikia...Oi wrimoi anthrwpoi einai wrimoi (gia thn hlikia tous panta) apo mikroi kai megalwnontas.

 

Epishs ithela mia kai piasame kouventa na sou thimisw kapoia alla pragmata pou eixes pei kai na pw merika sxolia:

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Egw pantws re paidia pisteyw oti ta "kaka" paidia einai ayta poy travane tis wraies kopeles,sthn hlikia ws apo 17-22,isws kai epeidh aytoi exoun perissotwero 8arros kai 8rasos (me thn kalh ennoia).

Oi kaloi 8ewrountai symvatikoi kai 3eperasmenoi,o romantismos exei pe8anei. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">An o romantismos exei pethanei, tote pame oloi mazi na fountaroume sta limania...

Kai mono afto edw to topic, apodeiknyei oti yparxoun polloi, kai malista antres, pou eksakolouthoun na einai skeptomenoi kai romantikoi...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Prepei na eisai "in" na to paizeis "dh8en" na les psemmata tou styl:Ta xw ftiaxei me 20 kopeles kai exw ri3ei pitta se alles 10.

Perierga ntysimata kai aproblepth symperifora.

Na exeis ama3i (Panta toy mpampa),kai genikws na to paizeis poly atomo.H syntagh ayth exei poly epityxia.

Proswpika egw pote den prokeitai na ginw etsi,apla giati eimai o eaytos mou,den ypokrinomai.

Polla paidia kanoun ta parapanw,asxeta an den ta aspazontai,apla prosarmozontai gia na kataferoun na gnwrisoun kopeles(amyales) kai to katafernoun kala.

Kai fysika kai oi kopeles den boh8oun ka8oloy,anti8etws me th symperifora tous apo8arynoun ta agoria asxeta an kaigontai na tous gnwrisoun.

Pleon einai fanero oti exoun to panw xeri (Ola ayta kata th gnwmh mou paidia.) </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mporei polles na entypwsiazontai m'afta pou les, alla einai kai arketes aftes pou me to pou tha doun ena typo san afto pou perigrafeis parapanw fevgoun makrya (kai poly kala kanoun). Proswpikws to sygkekrimeno stylaki mou prokalei ahdeia...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oloi mas 3eroume pleon oti oi gynaikes exoun to panw xeri.(An eisai kopela entypwsiakh,den pas xamenh,8a vreis ena gomeno me lefta kai teleiwse)

Enw an eisai antras prepei na to palepseis.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kai poios sou eipe oti kathe entypwsiakh kopela anazhta ena gkomeno me lefta? Akoma ki an to kanei, afto einai pou tha thn kanei eftyxismenh? Mia kopela pou periorizetai sto na einai me enan plousio vlaka mono eftyxismenh den mporeis na thn peis, mallon gia lyphsh einai...

Oloi prepei na to palepsoun an theloun na vroun kati ousiastiko. Kai elpizoun panta oti oi kopoi tous tha antamoifthoun <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

Kserw oti oi kopeles pou den skeftontai epipolaia einai liges, opws allwste kai ta agoria antistoixa. O kosmos einai etsi shmera pou h kokoromyalosynh kai h epipolaiothta exoun ginei titlos timhs... Pros apofyghn periths talaipwrias loipon psaxneis na vreis kapoion apo afto to spanio eidos, giati alliws tsampa talaipwriesai...

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Kserw oti oi kopeles pou den skeftontai epipolaia einai liges, opws allwste kai ta agoria antistoixa. O kosmos einai etsi shmera pou h kokoromyalosynh kai h epipolaiothta exoun ginei titlos timhs... Pros apofyghn periths talaipwrias loipon psaxneis na vreis kapoion apo afto to spanio eidos, giati alliws tsampa talaipwriesai...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Safws kai einai liges gia ayto kai polla pragmatika kala paidia anagazontai na alla3oun kai na prosarmostoun sto neo tropo zwhs.

Symfwnw epishs oti o romantismos yparxei pleon mono se kapoio pososto agoriwn kai se liiiga koritsia,ta opoia omws,opws swsta aneferes,einai poly dyskolo na bre8oun.

Mporei na eisai kai h e3airesh ston kanona,alla egw oute apo thn pikra moy ta lew ayta oute apo tipota,apla ws parathrhths.

Bebaia den mporw na pw oti den thn exw pathsei, etsi?to eisai poly kalos gia mena,to akouw sxedon ka8e fora (kai den eimai kai kanena bazo gia na to xrhsimopoioun san epixeirhma),mia fora de poy ekana sxesh me mia kopela,pou h kardia mou anastena3e molis thn prwtoeida (kai h monadikh fora pou synebh kati tetoio),hmoun 23 kai ayth 18,ths ekana ola ta xathria,hmoun poly eygenikos,glykos kai tryferos alla parola ayta meta apo 1 molis mhna mou zhthse na xwrisoume epeidh opws eipe a3iza kati kalytero kai ta gnwsta,h alh8eia einai oti htan kollhmenh me ton prwn ths,ton opoio re paidia molis eida eskasa sta gelia,o klassikos pseytomagakos.

Apogohteythka h alh8eia einai alla twra meta apo 2 xronia,akoma mou kanei anapanhtes(xwris egw na apanthsw bebaia)

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An kai den exo diavasei ola ta post symfono apolyta me ayta pou leei h Roudolfa kai de pisteyo oti einai toso dyskolo pia na vrei ena agori mia kopela pou tha einai kai arketa omorfh kai eksypnh kai sygrathmenh ekei pou prepei kai genika sosth se ola!Einai pisteyo dyskolotero gia mia kopela na vrei ena agori me ta parapano xarakthristika oso ki an sas fainetai periergo!Apla pisteyo oti ta agoria exoun mia hlithia tash na kollane genikos se kopeles pou fainontai oti einai entelos ksekola(sorry gia thn ekfrash!)mono kai mono epeidh deixnoun pio poly mpouti h mpousto apo tis alles!Kai pisteyo oti einai ta mona pou mporoun na epideiksoun efoson oi perissoteres einai stokoi...Ara kapoios an kollhsei me mia tetoia kopela de mporei na perimenei tipote allo apo ena phdhma poso mallon mia sovarh sxesh!

Gia na ertho kai sto kyrios thema h frash kleidi einai na eisai o eaytos sou.An sou kanei klik mia kopela den tha einai gia to phdhma pistepse me!Einai to thema ths xhmeias pou legate pio pano.Apla mh prospatheis na thn entyposiaseis me vlakeies.Ftanei na ths milas arketa eygenika,na eisai euxaristos,na les kai kanena asteio pou kai pou an einai tou xarakthra sou giati yparxoun kai polloi pou einai sovaroi an kai pisteuo oti pio eykola gohteuesai apo kapoion pou exei xioumor(eksypno omos)ego toulaxiston!Alla propantos mh prospatheis na deikseis kati pou den eisai!Mia eksypnh kopela tha se katalavei amesos oti to paizeis kapoios h genika oti eisai atomo!Opos lene she will see right through you!Kai an h kopela sou kanei klik h syzhthsh tha einai panta se filiko epipedo esto sthn arxh giati de tha sou vgei to xydaio efoson tha niotheis diaforetika aisthimata gi aythn!

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