ποια ειναι η διαφορα aptitude και apt-get?

[jemadux]

βασικα ποτε δεν καταλαβα την διαφορα αυτου

[jemadux]

βασικα ποτε δεν καταλαβα την διαφορα αυτου

[iliaskr]

The Advanced Packaging Tool, or APT, is a free user interface that works with core libraries to handle the installation and removal of software on the Debian GNU/Linux distribution and its variants.[3] APT simplifies the process of managing software on Unix-like computer systems by automating the retrieval, configuration and installation of software packages, either from binary files or by compiling source code.[3]

aptitude is a front-end to the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT). It displays a list of software packages and allows the user to interactively pick packages to install or remove. It has an especially powerful search system utilizing flexible search patterns. It was initially created for Debian, but has appeared in RPM-based distributions as well (such as Conectiva).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_%28software%29

[iliaskr]

The Advanced Packaging Tool, or APT, is a free user interface that works with core libraries to handle the installation and removal of software on the Debian GNU/Linux distribution and its variants.[3] APT simplifies the process of managing software on Unix-like computer systems by automating the retrieval, configuration and installation of software packages, either from binary files or by compiling source code.[3]

aptitude is a front-end to the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT). It displays a list of software packages and allows the user to interactively pick packages to install or remove. It has an especially powerful search system utilizing flexible search patterns. It was initially created for Debian, but has appeared in RPM-based distributions as well (such as Conectiva).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_%28software%29

[alkisg]

Το apt είναι το backend, αλλά τα apt-get και aptitude είναι και τα δύο frontends, δηλαδή κάνουν την ίδια δουλειά.

 

Απ' όσο έχω διαβάσει το aptitude θεωρείται καλύτερο, π.χ. http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/

 

Από την άλλη οι Ubuntίστες προτείνουν και προτιμούν το apt-get, αλλά δεν έχω καταλάβει γιατί, αν το έχει καταλάβει κανείς ας μας διαφωτίσει. Μάλιστα στην 10.10 δεν θα έχουν καν προεγκατεστημένο το aptitude.

Ακούω κάποια πράγματα του στυλ "το apt-get λύνει λίγο καλύτερα τις εξαρτήσεις χωρίς να πρήζει τον χρήστη", αλλά από την άλλη κάποια πράγματα όπως π.χ. το "aptitude changelog πακέτο" δεν νομίζω να γίνονται με apt-get... δεν έχω βγάλει άκρη. :-/

[alkisg]

Το apt είναι το backend, αλλά τα apt-get και aptitude είναι και τα δύο frontends, δηλαδή κάνουν την ίδια δουλειά.

 

Απ' όσο έχω διαβάσει το aptitude θεωρείται καλύτερο, π.χ. http://www.pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/

 

Από την άλλη οι Ubuntίστες προτείνουν και προτιμούν το apt-get, αλλά δεν έχω καταλάβει γιατί, αν το έχει καταλάβει κανείς ας μας διαφωτίσει. Μάλιστα στην 10.10 δεν θα έχουν καν προεγκατεστημένο το aptitude.

Ακούω κάποια πράγματα του στυλ "το apt-get λύνει λίγο καλύτερα τις εξαρτήσεις χωρίς να πρήζει τον χρήστη", αλλά από την άλλη κάποια πράγματα όπως π.χ. το "aptitude changelog πακέτο" δεν νομίζω να γίνονται με apt-get... δεν έχω βγάλει άκρη. :-/

[apoikos]

alkisg:

 

Οι σημαντικές διαφορές είναι δύο:

• Το aptitude διαθέτει ncurses frontend, ενώ το apt-get μόνο CLI
  
• To aptitude έχει επιπλέον δυνατότητα για interactive dependency resolution. Το apt-get, αν δεν μπορεί να ικανοποιήσει απευθείας τα dependencies, σταματάει. Το aptitude από την άλλη, υπολογίζει και προτείνει ένα σύνολο από πιθανές λύσεις στο χρήστη, πράγμα που το καθιστά ιδανικό για συστήματα με pinning. Το apt-get ας πούμε δεν μπορεί από μόνο του να λύσει σύνθετα προβλήματα σε ένα μεικτό stable/testing setup, ενώ το aptitude λ.χ. μπορεί να υπολογίσει αυτόματα λύσεις με μερική αναβάθμιση πακέτων προς εκδόσεις του testing.
  

 

Όπως αντιλαμβάνεσαι, τίποτα από αυτά δεν έχει σημασία για το target group του Ubuntu: για το μεν frontend, υπάρχει το synaptic, ενώ το pinning στο ubuntu δεν παίζει ούτως ή άλλως λόγω release management. Επομένως εξακολουθούν να προτείνουν το apt-get.

 

Και για να πάρετε μια γεύση:

apt-get:

>
$ sudo apt-get install digikam/testing 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Selected version 2:1.2.0-7 (Debian:unstable) for digikam
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 digikam: Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is to be installed
          Depends: libkabc4 (>= 4:4.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdcraw8 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkde3support4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4.4-2~) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkexiv2-8 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkfile4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkhtml5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkipi7 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkjsapi4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libknotifyconfig4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkparts4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkresources4 (>= 4:4.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkutils4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: liblqr-1-0 (>= 0.4.0) but 0.1.0-1 is to be installed
          Depends: libmarblewidget4 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libnepomuk4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.1.67) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is to be installed
          Depends: libqt4-sql-sqlite but it is not going to be installed
          Recommends: kipi-plugins but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

 

aptitude:

>
$ sudo aptitude install digikam/testing 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information       
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
 digikam kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-runtime kipi-plugins libakonadi-kde4 libgps19 libkde3support4 
 libkdecore5 libkhtml5 libkio5 libmarblewidget4 libnepomuk4 libokularcore1 libqt4-sql-sqlite okular 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 digikam-data{a} kaboom{a} kdegraphics-libs-data{a} kdepimlibs-kio-plugins{a} kdoctools{a} libakonadi-kabc4{a} libakonadi-kcal4{a} libakonadi-kmime4{a} 
 libbluetooth3{a} libeggdbus-1-0{a} libexiv2-9{a} libical0{a} libkabc4{a} libkcal4{a} libkdcraw8{a} libkdeui5{a} libkexiv2-8{a} libkfile4{a} 
 libkimap4{a} libkipi7{a} libkjsapi4{a} libkjsembed4{a} libkldap4{a} libkmime4{a} libknotifyconfig4{a} libkntlm4{a} libkparts4{a} libkpimutils4{a} 
 libkpty4{a} libkresources4{a} libkrosscore4{a} libktexteditor4{a} libkutils4{a} liblensfun-data{a} liblensfun0{a} liblzma2{a} libmailtransport4{a} 
 libmicroblog4{a} libpolkit-agent-1-0{a} libpolkit-gobject-1-0{a} libpolkit-qt-1-0{a} libsolid4{a} libutempter0{a} marble-plugins{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 kdelibs5{a} libkipi0{a} 
1 packages upgraded, 55 newly installed, 2 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
Need to get 33,8MB of archives. After unpacking 50,9MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kipi-plugins: Depends: libkipi0 (>= 0.1.6-1) but it is not installable
 libkdecore5: Breaks: kdebase-runtime (< 4:4.4) but 4:4.1.0-2 is installed.
              Breaks: kdelibs5-data (< 4:4.2.2) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
 libgps19: Depends: libusb-1.0-0 (>= 2:1.0.8) but it is not installable
 libokularcore1: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libqt4-sql-sqlite: Depends: libqt4-sql (= 4.4.3-1+lenny1) but 4:4.6.3-1 is installed.
                    Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4.4.3-1+lenny1) but 4:4.6.3-1 is installed.
 libnepomuk4: Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.4.0.1-2~) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
 digikam: Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is installed.
          Depends: liblqr-1-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
          Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.1.67) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
 kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1) but it is not installable
 libkio5: Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (>= 0.7.2) but 0.5.11-1 is installed.
 kdebase-runtime: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libmarblewidget4: Depends: marble-data (>= 4:4.4.5-1) but it is not installable
 libkde3support4: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.2-2 is installed.
 kdelibs5-plugins: Depends: libenchant1c2a (>= 1.6) but 1.4.2-3.3 is installed.
                   Depends: kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.4.5-1) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
                   Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:4.4.5-1) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
                   Breaks: kdelibs5-data (< 4:4.2.2) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
 kdepim-runtime: Depends: libakonadiprivate1 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
                 Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.2.69) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
                 Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (>= 0.7.2) but 0.5.11-1 is installed.
                 Depends: akonadi-server (>= 1.3) but it is not installable
 kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libkhtml5: Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is installed.
 okular: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libakonadi-kde4: Depends: libakonadiprivate1 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
open: 1040; closed: 848; defer: 0; conflict: 86                                                                                                             .The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
kcontrol
kdebase-kio-plugins
kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdesktop
kicker
kipi-plugins
konqueror
locales
mysql-server
mysql-server-5.0

Install the following packages:
akonadi-server [1.3.1-3+b1 (unstable, testing)]
belocs-locales-bin [2.4-4 (stable)]
belocs-locales-data [2.4-6 (stable)]
libakonadiprivate1 [1.3.1-3+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libattica0 [0.1.4-1 (unstable, testing)]
libboost-program-options1.42.0 [1.42.0-4 (unstable, testing)]
libdb4.8 [4.8.24-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
libiodbc2 [3.52.6-2 (stable)]
libkdesu5 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkdnssd4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkimproxy4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkmediaplayer4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libknewstuff2-4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libknewstuff3-4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkrossui4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
liblqr-1-0 [0.4.1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libnepomukquery4a [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libplasma3 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libqt4-sql-sqlite [4:4.6.3-1 (unstable, testing)]
librasqal2 [0.9.19-1 (unstable, testing)]
libssh-4 [0.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libthreadweaver4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libusb-1.0-0 [2:1.0.8-2 (unstable, testing)]
marble-data [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
mysql-server-core-5.1 [5.1.47-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
oxygen-icon-theme [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
plasma-scriptengine-javascript [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
shared-desktop-ontologies [0.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
soprano-daemon [2.4.3+dfsg.1-1 (testing)]

Upgrade the following packages:
binutils [2.18.1~cvs20080103-7 (stable, now) -> 2.20.51.20100813-1 (experimental)]
kde-icons-oxygen [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-bin [4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-data [4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-runtime [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-runtime-data [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs-bin [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs5 [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs5-data [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libc-bin [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc-dev-bin [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6 [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6-dev [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6-i386 [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libclucene0ldbl [0.9.20-3 (stable, now) -> 0.9.21b-2+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libenchant1c2a [1.4.2-3.3 (stable, now) -> 1.6.0-1 (unstable, testing)]
libjpeg62 [6b-14 (stable, now) -> 6b1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libjpeg62-dev [6b-14 (stable, now) -> 6b1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libraptor1 [1.4.17-1+b1 (stable, now) -> 1.4.21-2 (unstable, testing)]
librdf0 [1.0.7-1 (stable, now) -> 1.0.10-2 (unstable, testing)]
libsoprano4 [2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 (stable, now) -> 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1 (testing)]
libstreamanalyzer0 [0.5.11-1 (stable, now) -> 0.7.2-1+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libstreams0 [0.5.11-1 (stable, now) -> 0.7.2-1+b1 (unstable, testing)]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
digikam recommends kipi-plugins
kdebase-runtime recommends virtuoso-minimal
Score is -2935

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 

[apoikos]

alkisg:

 

Οι σημαντικές διαφορές είναι δύο:

• Το aptitude διαθέτει ncurses frontend, ενώ το apt-get μόνο CLI
  
• To aptitude έχει επιπλέον δυνατότητα για interactive dependency resolution. Το apt-get, αν δεν μπορεί να ικανοποιήσει απευθείας τα dependencies, σταματάει. Το aptitude από την άλλη, υπολογίζει και προτείνει ένα σύνολο από πιθανές λύσεις στο χρήστη, πράγμα που το καθιστά ιδανικό για συστήματα με pinning. Το apt-get ας πούμε δεν μπορεί από μόνο του να λύσει σύνθετα προβλήματα σε ένα μεικτό stable/testing setup, ενώ το aptitude λ.χ. μπορεί να υπολογίσει αυτόματα λύσεις με μερική αναβάθμιση πακέτων προς εκδόσεις του testing.
  

 

Όπως αντιλαμβάνεσαι, τίποτα από αυτά δεν έχει σημασία για το target group του Ubuntu: για το μεν frontend, υπάρχει το synaptic, ενώ το pinning στο ubuntu δεν παίζει ούτως ή άλλως λόγω release management. Επομένως εξακολουθούν να προτείνουν το apt-get.

 

Και για να πάρετε μια γεύση:

apt-get:

>
$ sudo apt-get install digikam/testing 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Selected version 2:1.2.0-7 (Debian:unstable) for digikam
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 digikam: Depends: kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is to be installed
          Depends: libkabc4 (>= 4:4.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdcraw8 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkde3support4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4.4-2~) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkexiv2-8 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkfile4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkhtml5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkio5 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkipi7 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkjsapi4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libknotifyconfig4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkparts4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkresources4 (>= 4:4.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libkutils4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: liblqr-1-0 (>= 0.4.0) but 0.1.0-1 is to be installed
          Depends: libmarblewidget4 (>= 4:4.4.1) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libnepomuk4 (>= 4:4.4.4) but it is not going to be installed
          Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.1.67) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is to be installed
          Depends: libqt4-sql-sqlite but it is not going to be installed
          Recommends: kipi-plugins but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

 

aptitude:

>
$ sudo aptitude install digikam/testing 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information       
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
 digikam kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-plugins kdepim-runtime kipi-plugins libakonadi-kde4 libgps19 libkde3support4 
 libkdecore5 libkhtml5 libkio5 libmarblewidget4 libnepomuk4 libokularcore1 libqt4-sql-sqlite okular 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 digikam-data{a} kaboom{a} kdegraphics-libs-data{a} kdepimlibs-kio-plugins{a} kdoctools{a} libakonadi-kabc4{a} libakonadi-kcal4{a} libakonadi-kmime4{a} 
 libbluetooth3{a} libeggdbus-1-0{a} libexiv2-9{a} libical0{a} libkabc4{a} libkcal4{a} libkdcraw8{a} libkdeui5{a} libkexiv2-8{a} libkfile4{a} 
 libkimap4{a} libkipi7{a} libkjsapi4{a} libkjsembed4{a} libkldap4{a} libkmime4{a} libknotifyconfig4{a} libkntlm4{a} libkparts4{a} libkpimutils4{a} 
 libkpty4{a} libkresources4{a} libkrosscore4{a} libktexteditor4{a} libkutils4{a} liblensfun-data{a} liblensfun0{a} liblzma2{a} libmailtransport4{a} 
 libmicroblog4{a} libpolkit-agent-1-0{a} libpolkit-gobject-1-0{a} libpolkit-qt-1-0{a} libsolid4{a} libutempter0{a} marble-plugins{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
 kdelibs5{a} libkipi0{a} 
1 packages upgraded, 55 newly installed, 2 to remove and 14 not upgraded.
Need to get 33,8MB of archives. After unpacking 50,9MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kipi-plugins: Depends: libkipi0 (>= 0.1.6-1) but it is not installable
 libkdecore5: Breaks: kdebase-runtime (< 4:4.4) but 4:4.1.0-2 is installed.
              Breaks: kdelibs5-data (< 4:4.2.2) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
 libgps19: Depends: libusb-1.0-0 (>= 2:1.0.8) but it is not installable
 libokularcore1: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libqt4-sql-sqlite: Depends: libqt4-sql (= 4.4.3-1+lenny1) but 4:4.6.3-1 is installed.
                    Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4.4.3-1+lenny1) but 4:4.6.3-1 is installed.
 libnepomuk4: Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.4.0.1-2~) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
 digikam: Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is installed.
          Depends: liblqr-1-0 (>= 0.4.0) but it is not installable
          Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.1.67) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
 kdelibs-bin: Depends: kdelibs5 (= 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1) but it is not installable
 libkio5: Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (>= 0.7.2) but 0.5.11-1 is installed.
 kdebase-runtime: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libmarblewidget4: Depends: marble-data (>= 4:4.4.5-1) but it is not installable
 libkde3support4: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.2-2 is installed.
 kdelibs5-plugins: Depends: libenchant1c2a (>= 1.6) but 1.4.2-3.3 is installed.
                   Depends: kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.4.5-1) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
                   Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:4.4.5-1) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
                   Breaks: kdelibs5-data (< 4:4.2.2) but 4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 is installed.
 kdepim-runtime: Depends: libakonadiprivate1 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
                 Depends: libsoprano4 (>= 2.2.69) but 2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 is installed.
                 Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (>= 0.7.2) but 0.5.11-1 is installed.
                 Depends: akonadi-server (>= 1.3) but it is not installable
 kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libkhtml5: Depends: libjpeg62 (>= 6b1) but 6b-14 is installed.
 okular: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.0) but it is not installable
 libakonadi-kde4: Depends: libakonadiprivate1 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
open: 1040; closed: 848; defer: 0; conflict: 86                                                                                                             .The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
kcontrol
kdebase-kio-plugins
kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
kdesktop
kicker
kipi-plugins
konqueror
locales
mysql-server
mysql-server-5.0

Install the following packages:
akonadi-server [1.3.1-3+b1 (unstable, testing)]
belocs-locales-bin [2.4-4 (stable)]
belocs-locales-data [2.4-6 (stable)]
libakonadiprivate1 [1.3.1-3+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libattica0 [0.1.4-1 (unstable, testing)]
libboost-program-options1.42.0 [1.42.0-4 (unstable, testing)]
libdb4.8 [4.8.24-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
libiodbc2 [3.52.6-2 (stable)]
libkdesu5 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkdnssd4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkimproxy4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkmediaplayer4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libknewstuff2-4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libknewstuff3-4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libkrossui4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
liblqr-1-0 [0.4.1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libnepomukquery4a [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libplasma3 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libqt4-sql-sqlite [4:4.6.3-1 (unstable, testing)]
librasqal2 [0.9.19-1 (unstable, testing)]
libssh-4 [0.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libthreadweaver4 [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libusb-1.0-0 [2:1.0.8-2 (unstable, testing)]
marble-data [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
mysql-server-core-5.1 [5.1.47-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
oxygen-icon-theme [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
plasma-scriptengine-javascript [4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
shared-desktop-ontologies [0.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
soprano-daemon [2.4.3+dfsg.1-1 (testing)]

Upgrade the following packages:
binutils [2.18.1~cvs20080103-7 (stable, now) -> 2.20.51.20100813-1 (experimental)]
kde-icons-oxygen [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-bin [4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-data [4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-runtime [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdebase-runtime-data [4:4.1.0-2 (stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs-bin [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs5 [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
kdelibs5-data [4:4.1.0-3+lenny1 (stable, stable, now) -> 4:4.4.5-1 (unstable, testing)]
libc-bin [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc-dev-bin [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6 [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6-dev [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libc6-i386 [2.10.2-2 (now) -> 2.11.2-2 (unstable, testing)]
libclucene0ldbl [0.9.20-3 (stable, now) -> 0.9.21b-2+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libenchant1c2a [1.4.2-3.3 (stable, now) -> 1.6.0-1 (unstable, testing)]
libjpeg62 [6b-14 (stable, now) -> 6b1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libjpeg62-dev [6b-14 (stable, now) -> 6b1-1 (unstable, testing)]
libraptor1 [1.4.17-1+b1 (stable, now) -> 1.4.21-2 (unstable, testing)]
librdf0 [1.0.7-1 (stable, now) -> 1.0.10-2 (unstable, testing)]
libsoprano4 [2.1.1+dfsg.1-0lenny1 (stable, now) -> 2.4.3+dfsg.1-1 (testing)]
libstreamanalyzer0 [0.5.11-1 (stable, now) -> 0.7.2-1+b1 (unstable, testing)]
libstreams0 [0.5.11-1 (stable, now) -> 0.7.2-1+b1 (unstable, testing)]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
digikam recommends kipi-plugins
kdebase-runtime recommends virtuoso-minimal
Score is -2935

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 

[poscaman]

έτσι ακριβώς. Μπράβο apoikos, άψογος άλλη μια φορά.

 

Από προσωπική πείρα σε debian, από τότε που άρχισα να χρησιμοποιώ aptitude, το σύστημα δεν έχει σκάσει ποτε, όχι ότι παλιότερα που έσκαγε έφταιγε το apt-get, όσο η δική μου ασχετοσύνη...

[alkisg]

Καλημέρα δάσκαλε κι ευχαριστούμε, καλημέρα θρανία.

[miza]

Αυτά που έχει μέσα στις παρενθέσεις π.χ. {a}, {u} και δεν ξέρω αν υπάρχουν και αλλα σύμβολα τι σημαίνουν; Για να μιλήσουμε πιο πρακτικά, σε κάποιον που δεν κάνει pinning και είναι καθαρά με stable ή testing ή sid προτείνεται πάλι aptitude;

[poscaman]

ναι....

 

δεν έχει σημασία αν έχεις pinning ή όχι, αναπόφευκτα όπως προχωράει ο κύκλος ανάπτυξης, πακέτα θα φεύγουν και θα ρχονται dependencies θα επιλύνονται με διαφορετικό τρόπο, και πακέτα από άλλα distributions θα έρχονται στο δικό σου

[jemadux]

μια ακομα διαφορα που βρηκα ειναι οτι με

>#apt-get install pidgin*

θα εγκαταστησει ολα τα πακετα που εχουν το pidgin

ενω αμα βαλεις

>#aptitude install pidgin*

δεν θα κανει τιποτα απολυτως ουτε το pidgin θα εκγαταστησει !

 

ας ασχοληθουμε και να βρουμε και αλλες διαφορες

 

[jemadux]

μια ακομα διαφορα που βρηκα ειναι οτι με

>#apt-get install pidgin*

θα εγκαταστησει ολα τα πακετα που εχουν το pidgin

ενω αμα βαλεις

>#aptitude install pidgin*

δεν θα κανει τιποτα απολυτως ουτε το pidgin θα εκγαταστησει !

 

ας ασχοληθουμε και να βρουμε και αλλες διαφορες

 

[gtroza]

@"Ζηλωτή" Linuxά!

Καλημέρα δάσκαλε κι ευχαριστούμε, καλημέρα θρανία.

 

καλημέρα θρανίο (Σαούλ-Παύλο)

έχουμε νέο μαθητή "ρώσσο" στην τάξη, συμφωνώ μαζί του γενικά

 

γειά σας κύριε apoiko

ακριβοθώρητος

καλή δύναμη

 

puppylinux και ξερό ψωμί !:mrgreen:

 

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