Istorika gegonota pou poloi isos den gnorizoun....

[Melven]

an pate <A HREF="http://www.ancientgr.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ancientgr.com</A> 8a katalavete ti enno.anaferei polla istorika gegonota kai dedomena gia pramata pou poloi apo mas den gnorizoume opos gia tin yparksi pyramidon ston elladiko xoro pou xronologountai prin apo aytes ton aigyptiwn,episis leei gia diafora alles kataskeves & amyntika opla pou protoi oi arxaioi ellines kataskevasan.episis anaferei gia ton an oi ellines htan oi protoi pou gnorizan oti i amerikaniki hpeiros ypyrxe kai tin eixan episkeftei poly prin apo ton kolomvo ka8os kai to oti gnorizan polla pramata gia ti gh ta opoia anakalyftikan molis ton 19aiona m.x....rikste mia matia kai peite ti gnomi sas.<BR>

[pyro]

καλα για τις πυραμιδες, αλλα και τσιμετνο αδιαπεραστο απο ραδιενεργια πριν απο 3000 χρονια...μου δινεις και αλλα επιχηρηματα για να βριζω τους εδω αλλων χορων συμαθητες μου.....

[apokaliptis]

Kala,to kefaleo Arxaia Elliniki texnologia einai pragmatika terastio kai mistirio...<BR>Kati koufa gia tin omada E(epsilon)...<p>[ 13-11-2001: Message edited by: apokaliptis ]

[agpr]

Ευτυχώς που αυτοί οι καλοί και ευφυείς άνθρωποι <B>αποκατέστησαν</B> όσα οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες ζηλόθφονα μας κράτησαν μυστικό <BR>Mulder,someone asks for you

[trustfm]

polu kalo link ! mprabo !

[crAss]

Thelo na theso mia ritoriki erotisi mias kai oloi xerete tin apantisi.<BR>Poios katestrepse oles tis arxaies vivliothikes tou kosmou molis eixe tin eukairia, eno kratise oti theorise arketa simantiko kai to apothikeuse kai apothikeuei mexri kai simera xoris na to moirazete me ton ipoloipo kosmo???<BR>Kai den milao mono gia europi, ta idia skata eginan apo tin idia ontotita kai sti latiniki ameriki molis dothike i dinaotita...<BR>Na xairomaste tous thesmous mas...<P>crAss

[Γηρυόνης]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crAss:<BR><STRONG>Thelo na theso mia ritoriki erotisi mias kai oloi xerete tin apantisi.<BR>Poios katestrepse oles tis arxaies vivliothikes tou kosmou molis eixe tin eukairia, eno kratise oti theorise arketa simantiko kai to apothikeuse kai apothikeuei mexri kai simera xoris na to moirazete me ton ipoloipo kosmo???<BR>Kai den milao mono gia europi, ta idia skata eginan apo tin idia ontotita kai sti latiniki ameriki molis dothike i dinaotita...<BR>Na xairomaste tous thesmous mas...<P>crAss</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Η Εκκλησία.

[Επισκέπτης]

Pwpw paidia anoigete fovero 8ema gia syzhthsh.elpizw mono na mhn tsakw8oume pali<P>Loipon kata thn proswpikh mou gnwwmh sevomai kai epikrotw ton rolo ths ekklhsias sthn diathrhsh tou e8nous mas kai twn paradosiakwn politistikwn 8wsmwn mas.<BR>isws kai dne einai psemata an den yphrxe h ekklhsia h ellada na mhn eixe vadisei ton dromo pou akolou8ei shmera.<BR>Omws parallhla o 8esmos ths ekklhsias mesa sth agnoia tou kai ston fovo ths gia prosmiksh airwtikwn stoixeiwn arketes fores eixe kyrhksei aorato polemo pros pasa filosofikh arxaioellhnikh idea kai ontothta.<P>(H arxaia ellada (an tolmhsoume na thn apla ellada me to evros pou eixe) htan isws tpo megalytero politistiko epitevgma tou an8rwpou sthn istoria tou, kai isws kai h koryfaia stigmh sthn mikrh mas istoria panw se afton ton planhth.)<P>h ekklhsia loipon mesa se olh ths afth thn prospa8eia na epivlh8ei kai na diathrhsei to laiko ais8hma gia afthn anetrexe se me8odous arketa varvares opws proaneferan kapoioi insomniacs parapanw.<BR>etsi para pola stoixeia kai epitevgmata apokryf8hsan.Epeidh omws ouden krypton ypo tou hliou, panta kati ma8enetai estw kai mono apo thn akrh tou.etsi an exete proseksei tis poses apletes 8ewries synomwsias ton teleftaio kairo akoume.mas kryvoun afto,mas kryvoun ekeino.<BR>omws olh afth h anagennhsh kai emfanish twn oswn krymmenwn plhroforiwn, eloxevei kai enan allo kindyno:<BR>opoiosdhpote me mia arketa rhtorikh fysh, mporei na provallei tis idees tou (me kinhtra ka8ara proswpika) na tis vaptisie 8ewries synomwsias kai na mas odhgei se anazhthsh pragmatwn pou den exoun lavei xwra pote!!<BR>etsi prepei na eimaste para poly epifylaktikoi alla kai synxronws anoixtoi se otidhpote mas gnwstopoioun<BR>aftaaaaaaaaa

[Melven]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crAss:<BR><STRONG>Thelo na theso mia ritoriki erotisi mias kai oloi xerete tin apantisi.<BR>Poios katestrepse oles tis arxaies vivliothikes tou kosmou molis eixe tin eukairia, eno kratise oti theorise arketa simantiko kai to apothikeuse kai apothikeuei mexri kai simera xoris na to moirazete me ton ipoloipo kosmo???<BR>Kai den milao mono gia europi, ta idia skata eginan apo tin idia ontotita kai sti latiniki ameriki molis dothike i dinaotita...<BR>Na xairomaste tous thesmous mas...<P>crAss</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>ayto to exo akousei kai ego!einai ali8eia oti ontos exei peksei teties pousties ?? i apla legetai apo edo kai apo ekei??<BR>episis exo akousei oti kalitera na mi ta valeis me ton pope giati paraeinai "dynatos"...<BR>triton> ontos exeis ddikio oti i ekklisia me to tropo tis einai ayti pou diatirei to e8nos mas kai tous 8esmous mas alla apo tin alli deixnei na prospa8ei na "epivalei" i na "perasei" sto kosmo oti ayti einai to megalitero meros tis dynamis tou kratous kai oti mporei na dioikisei ayto to topo.vevaia min ksexname oti sta poly palia ta xronia oi ekklisia htane ayti pou dioikouse kai kanonize ta panta alla ayto de simainei oti prepei na einai etsi kai simera,pantos ayto pou akougetai einai oti i ekklisia exei LEFTAAAA kai mporei na epireasei tin poria tou e8nous (sosta i lan8asmena)mias kai exei kai tin ypostiriksi tou kosmou.<BR>aytaaaa

[crAss]

I xristianiki ekklisia katestrepse ti vivliothiki tis Alexandrias giati itan apeili stin exousia tis. O Theodosios (an kano lathos diorthoste me) ekapse pampolous tomous apo tin vivliothiki tis Konstantinoupolis pou theorise airetikous (koinos pou tou apeilousan ti thesi tou). O papas apo tin alli ekane kati paromoio isos elafra kallitero alla poli pio egoistiko. Den ekapse oti den tou arese kai oti ton apeilouse alla to diatirise to ekripse kai to xrisimopoiise kai to xrisimopoiei gia prosopiko tou ofelos. (Oloi xeroume gia ta orea kleidia pou ferei sti mesi tou o papas opou kai an paei pou tou dinoun apokleisitki prosvasi se vivliothikes sto vatikano).<BR>Telos na min xexname tous ispanous kataktites pou ekanan akrivos ta idia stin latiniki ameriki opou ekapsan kai katestrepsan otidipote eixe sxesi me ton proigoumeno ekei politismo sto onoma tou xristianismou.<BR>Telos iparxoun akoma plakes me ieroglifikes grafes se diafora monastiria tis anatolis (voudistika ktl) oi opoies periexoun polles plirofories gia tin istoria tou kosmou prin apo 20.000 kai oi opoies eite apokriptontai eite xanontai pia ekeinoi oi iereis pou exoun ti dinatotita na katalavoun auti ti glossa. (O Churchward eixe kanei mia meletei gia ola auta kai eixe grapsei ena vivlio. Sigoura einai ligo kollimenos me auta pou leei omos epistimonika den mporei na arnithei kaneis ta eurimata tou stis plakes-akoma kai an i metafrasi pou ekane den itan apolita sosti oi plakes iparxoun)<P>Isos i ekklisia na mas exei kanei kalo. Na mas exei kripsei thaumasta epiteugmata tou parelthontos pou oi anthropoi isos na min mporoun na katanoisoun kai na antimetopisoun. Isos na xerei dinatotites tou anthropou pou odigoun stin katastrofi kai emmesos na mas apotrepei na tis aggixoume. <BR>Omos eimaste anthropoi gamoto. Apo ti fisi mas periergoi theloume na mathainoume sinexeia kainourgia pragmata. Polloi tha poulagame akoma kai tin psixi mas sto diavolo(an iparxei) san ton faust gia na mathoume tin alithia (pou isos na min iparxei) akoma kai an gnorizoume mesa mas oti auto mporei na mas odigisei se apognosi kai tin apoliti katastrofi. Mporei telos telos oles autes oi "theories sinomosias" na einai kataskevasmata tou idiou tou sistimatos gia na mas apospa tin prosoxi apo zitimata poli pio simantika ta opoia omos den mporoume na ta katanoisoume me tin proti matia. Ta erotimatika einai pampola. Kai an koitaxeis giro sou me prosoxi akoma kai to pio aplo pragma mporei na se kanei toso anasfali gia tin idia sou tin iparxi.<P>Tha teleioso me mia theoria pou egrapse enas amerikanos latomos otan eide tis sarkofagous tis aigiptou. San latomos tou fanike tromera kali i doulia pou eixe ginei kai tin epomeni fora pou pige stin aigipto pire mazi kai epistimonika sinerga tis doulias tou. Oi epifaneies itan apolita leies (exei apodeixthei den einai theoria auto me epistimoniko tropo) se pososto mexri 99.9999. Auto mporoume na to kanoume kai emeis simera skeftike. Omos meta kotaxe kai eide pos oli i sarkofagos itan laxevmeni se ena mono kommati vraxou. Otan girise stis HPA xekinise ena megalopnoo sxedio. Na ftiaxoun ena akrives antigrafo tis sarkofagou fisika me tin idia akriveia. Mazepse tous megaliterous latomous kai genika anthropous pou asxolountai me to thema kai oloi apofanthikan pso einai apla ADINATO ME TI SIMERINI TEXNOLOGIA. Giati nai men ta teleutaia xronia eimaste ikanoi na kanoume toso teleies kopes se petra (me xrisi iperixon) omos se kamia periptosi den mporoume na ftiaxoume ti sarkfago apo ena kai mono kommati petras. Gia na ta kataferoume tha eprepe na ftixtei se tria tmimata kai meta auta na enothoun - kai akoma kai etsi iparxoun polles pithanotites na min petixei to egxeirima. <BR>Autoi omos ekei prin apo toses xiliades xronia pos to petixan omos??? AUti tin istoria tin egrapsa giati einai poli aplo paradeigma pou akoma kai enas kalos arxaiologos fisika den tha mporouse na to dei. O kosmos giro mas krivei polla mistiria kai kapoioi meso tis thriskeias(se megalitero vathmo) prospathoun na ta kripsoun akoma kallitera<P>crAss<p>[ 16-11-2001: Message edited by: crAss ]

[pyro]

ναι, οντως ειναι αληθεια οτι για λογους θρησκειας κανανε πολλες μαλακιες, αυτο εγινε για να μην εχουνε ερεθησματα 12 θεου οι Χρηστιανοι....Ωρες ωρες βγαζουμαι τα ματια μας.

[Γηρυόνης]

Πάνω κάτω συμφωνώ με αυτά που λέτε οι περισσότεροι.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crAss:<BR><STRONG><BR>Isos i ekklisia na mas exei kanei kalo.<P>crAss<P>[ 16-11-2001: Message edited by: crAss ]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> Όπως;

[crAss]

Isos na min mporoume na antimetopisoume tin pragmatikotita opote i thriskeia mas prostatevei krivontas mas tin alithia kai afinontas mas na zoume se ena kata auti kallitero kosmo...(Skata...lol)<BR>Tin apopsi mou tin eipa. Kallitera Faust...<P>crAss

[Επισκέπτης]

twra pou eipame gia ekklhsia to kserete pws to oikoumeniko patriarxeio eixe aforisei arxika tous ellhnes epanastates pou eixan symmaxhsei me ton alh sta iwannina.<BR>oxi giati eixan symmaxisei (allwste oi ellhnes apovlepan epeita se epi8esh enantion tou opws ki egine)alla giati piesthke apo tis o8wmanikes arxes<P>to kalo pou exei kanei h ekklhsia einai oti diathrhse th glwssa mas kai tis aksies mas san etos se kairous skoteinous gia to e8nos.<BR>alla as mhn ksexname oti eftyxws akomh yparxounj kapooioi an8ropoi oi opoioi aoteloun indalma gia pollous kai anhkoun ston xwro ths ekklhsias.alla mhn perimenete na einai gnwstoi.prpeei n apsaksete gia na tous vreite, ka8ws den kynhgane thn doksa.

[Γηρυόνης]

H Εκκλησία είχε αφορίσει πολλούς κατά τη διάρκεια της Επανάστασης. Αυτά είναι γνωστά πιστεύω. Αυτό που δεν είναι ίσως γνωστό είναι ότι στο Β' ΠΠ το <<Άγιο>> Όρος είχε στείλει επτασφράγιστη επιστολή υψίστης σημασίας στο Χίτλερ ώστε να οτ πάρει <<υπό την προστασία του>>. Κοινώς προδοσία.<P> Δεν πιστεύω ότι η Εκκλησία αυτή καθέ αυτή κράτησε τον Ελληνισμό ζωντανό στα χρόνια της τουρκοκρατίας. Πιο πολύ ήτανε η ιδέα της θρησκείας παρά η Εκκλησία. Με λίγα λόγια και σε ένα παπούτσι να πιστεύανε οι Έλληνες πάλι αυτό θα τους ένωνε.<P> Το ότι υπάρχουνε Χριστιανοί (και όχι <<Χριστιανοί>> ) αυτό δεν το αμφισβητεί κανένας. Απλώς αυτοί είναι ελάχιστοι και έχουνε χαθεί κάτω από τη δόξα και το βάρος των υπόλοιποων <<Χριστιανών>>.