NVIDIA Fermi - GTX 470 - GTX 480 - GTX 480 SLI Review (HardOCP)

[panther_512]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/1

 

Γενικά τα συμπεράσματά τους είναι ότι οι νέες κάρτες της Nvidia αποτελούν πιό ενεργοβόρες εκδοχές των 5ΧΧΧ καρτών της ΑΤΙ, χωρίς όμως το Eyefinity.

 

The Bottom Line

 

We see no reason to purchase a GeForce GTX 470. It provides no gameplay advantages compared to the competition, and will actually end up costing you more power and dollars for the exact same performance you can get with the Radeon HD 5850. Factor in the power consumption, and it doesn’t seem worth it. If you have an HD 5850, stick with it, the GTX 470 is not an upgrade. If you are contemplating a great performing graphics card, for a decent price, the HD 5850 is still the best choice.

 

The GeForce GTX 480 is more relevant in the market but it hasn’t exactly come out of the gate wowing us with performance either. There are some games where it is faster than the Radeon HD 5870, and there are some games where it is even with the Radeon HD 5870. Factor in the cost and power, and include the ability to run Eyefinity on a single GPU, the Radeon HD 5870, to us, seems like the better value for the gamer right now.

 

GeForce GTX 480 SLI clearly provides a better gameplay experience than the dual-GPU Radeon HD 5970. In the dual-GPU competition, we felt GeForce GTX 480 SLI provided the best experience, but it will certainly cost you. It will cost you a lot of money, and it will cost you by requiring a high powered hardcore enthusiast system to support it, again costing you more money. If you are a gamer, and you want the best performance you can get right now, GeForce GTX 480 SLI is where it is at. Just beware of all the consequences of running such a configuration. We are frothing at the bit to get into some NV Surround gaming with a GTX 480 SLI setup!

 

Overall, GF100 hasn’t exactly delivered. I think we were all hoping it would provide a substantial gameplay improvement over the Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850. Competition is good, and we would like to see it. Unfortunately, our experiences weren’t as positive as we had wanted. When you break it all down to cost, power and performance, the GTX 480 and GTX 470 don’t measure up. The only saving grace is the awesomeness of GTX 480 SLI, but it comes at some high costs.

 

That all said, the GF100 is not a 5800 or 2900 redo, but it sure makes you think about it.

 

PS: To Metro 2033 πάντως πολύ βαρύ και ασήκωτο, ανεξαρτήτως συστήματος.....

 

Update:

 

Review από Gure3D:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/

 

Admittedly while very strong, both the GeForce GTX 470 and 480 are not a slam dunk homerun compared to the fastest ATI 5800 series single GPU solutions. The reference Radeon HD 5870 keeps up with the GTX 480 pretty well on many occasions and a stinging fact is that its price is gradually dropping towards 429 USD, coming down from 469 USD (which is an interesting fact all by itself as it was launched at 399 USD). ATI reaps mucho benefits from the release of their Catalyst 10.3 driver (used in this review). The new driver brings significant performance boosts throughout the Radeon HD 5800 and 5900 series. Performance was enhanced in a lot of game titles. Would ATI not have released Catalyst 10.3 on time, then this review would have looked different. You'll probably notice a review or two out on the web using older drivers.

 

The fun thing is, in a couple of months the same thing will happen for NVIDIA with new drivers, 10% here, 7% there .. hey, that's how it works.

 

Even so, when we tally up the results out of all titles tested, the GeForce GTX 480 wins nearly everywhere except in Anno 1404 and ironically 3DMark Vantage. There are scenarios where the GTX 480 is very close to the 5870, but there are also scenarios where the GTX 480 completely and utterly kicks the Radeon HD 5870 in the proverbial nuts. What surprised me was the fact that say from 1280x1024 up-to 1920x1200 NVIDIA seems stronger than the competition. And at 2560x1600 things tend to equalize a much more.

 

When we focus solely on the GTX 480 now for a minute, substandard and topic of discussion obviously has to be the TDP -- the card when stressed will utilize nearly 250 Watts and that certainly is pretty steep power consumption, especially compared to ATI's Radeon 5870 with a TDP of only 188W. You are going to need a decently ventilated PC as the heat the GeForce GTX 480 produces is plentiful. Make no mistake, the card will get hot, very hot. So that's definitely something you need to keep in the back of your head.

 

In the end though, the GeForce GTX 480 is a graphics card that kicks ass, it is without doubt the fastest single GPU based graphics card on the block. The performance is grand and impressive and well, it's just a sick card to play all modern games with at any resolution or image quality preference.

 

The GeForce GTX 470 then -- obviously this card is lined up against ATI's Radeon HD 5850. It can compete with it quite well. Price wise it's definitely the more interesting of the two cards tested today. We expect that, once volume availability kicks in, this card will drop to roughly 300 USD. Performance wise we are looking at a product that positions itself smack down in the middle ATI's Radeon HD 5850 performance level and as such it's a really nice card to own. TDP wise at 215W we feel that power consumption is reasonable, and much like the GTX 480, we do also need to state that the heat output of the card currently is high but though not as high as the GTX 480. In fact we have a gut feeling that NVIDIA we reprogram the FAN RPM delta real soon, forcing the fan speed RPM at 70% which was not even every noisy, pushed the temperatures back to 80 Degrees C real quickly. Gaming wise the performance is obviously grand and the image quality it outputs is really high ranking as well. Money versus performance wise I'd say the GTX 470 is the winner of the two really.

 

As this article has shown, the newer software titles will benefit greatly from the new NVIDIA GeForce series 400 graphics cards. Metro 2033 is just stunning to play and when you look at the Just Cause 2 benchmarks all you can do is sit there, watch, with your mouth open. Stunning to look at and the performance is just brilliant combined with massive image quality settings. Consoles .. eat your heart out !

 

So there you have it you guys, temperatures at and TDP definitely can be considered trivial, but for most of you guys that is a non-issue, you are certainly looking at the fastest GPUs on the block in their respective category. Additional benefits for NVIDIA cards are of course PhysX which definitely is gaining more ground since the last year. It's a nice feature to have, sure... CUDA, we haven't talked about it much just yet. But obviously the GF100 GPUs are fully CUDA ready, in fact the architecture was designed with CUDA in mind. On the compute side of things we know one thing for sure, the GF100 should be impressive.

 

DX11 performance -- what we noticed in our test sessions is that the GeForce GTX 470 and 480 hold their ground really well in DX11 applications. Tessellation performance is downright terrific, the choice of putting a HW tesselator in each SM (shader cluster) definitely seems to be the right call to make architecture wise.

 

Alright, let me wrap up this conclusion. When we look purely at the image quality and brute game performance, that's where the GTX 470 ($349) and 480 ($499) shine, they are imposing, impressive and most definitely cards that will deliver a massive amount of performance. Brute force is what you'll receive with these products. We had a blast for sure testing them and drivers wise just did not run into any issues. Price vs performance wise we feel the GTX 480 is priced a notch too high though. And with a 150 USD difference that makes the winner of them both the GTX 470. The generic consensus has to be that the GeForce GTX 480 is definitely faster than the currently leading single GPU flagship from team red, the Radeon HD 5870. As such the GeForce GTX is more than convincing enough and makes a very strong impression. NVIDIA regains the performance crown and is back in the saddle like a cowboy after a harsh shootout, riding its horse into the sunset. Never ever has the graphics card arena been this close when it comes to sheer competition, and you know what ... we just love it.

 

Eδώ το review είναι σαφώς ευνοϊκότερο προς τις νέες αυτές κάρτες.

 

Τα συμπεράσματα δικά σας και παρακαλώ:

 

Don't shoot the messenger.

[d3m0n]

Στο Metro 2033 οι 470 & 480 έπρεπε να τρέχουν νεράκι. Εκεί είναι απ' τις μεγαλύτερες ήττες της Nvidia στο Fermi. Εκτός αν οι stable drivers που θα βγουν κάνουν την διαφορά.

 

Όσο για το HardOCP απ' ότι διάβαζα στο thelab.gr δεν το θεωρούν και το πιο αξιόπιστο site.

[panther_512]

Aν δείς αναλυτικά και τα 2 reviews όμως, οι διαφορές είναι μικρές.

 

Διαφορές πιό πολύ θα δείς στην ερμηνεία των benchmarks παρά στα ίδια τα benchmarks.

[d3m0n]

Στο Guru3d πάντως είδα ότι τα τα νούμερα που βγάζουν οι 5850/5870 σε αυτά τα benchmarks με τους 10.3, είναι τα ίδια με αυτά του Σεπτεμβρίου που είχαν κυκλοφορήσει με τους τότε Beta.

 

Περίεργα μας τα λέει ο Guru...

[Psycho_Warhead]

Σιγα μην καθοταν να τεσταρει τα παλια παιχνιδια(Crysis,CoD,Brothers in Arms etc etc)με καινουργιους drivers.....

 

Για μαλακα ψαχνεις?

 

[d3m0n]

Κανονικά έτσι θα 'πρεπε αν θέλουν να είναι αντικειμενικοί.

[nikos_se]

καλα το αντικειμενικοτερο review που να εχει συμπεριλαβει ολες τις παραμετρους δεν υπαρχει αλλα μεσα σε γενικες γραμμες περνεις μια ιδεα..και απο οτι φαινεται οι fermi σε αυτη τη κατασταση που ειναι τωρα τουλαχιστον δεν ειναι καλυτερες σε μεγαλο ποσοστο απο τις αti 5xxx

[nickelodeon]

Στο Guru3d πάντως είδα ότι τα τα νούμερα που βγάζουν οι 5850/5870 σε αυτά τα benchmarks με τους 10.3, είναι τα ίδια με αυτά του Σεπτεμβρίου που είχαν κυκλοφορήσει με τους τότε Beta.

 

Περίεργα μας τα λέει ο Guru...

 

από το review του guru3d

 

Windows 7 RTM 64-bit

DirectX 9/10 End User Runtime

ATI Catalyst 10.3 BETA

NVIDIA GeForce 197.17 BETA

 

Εμένα μου δίνει την εντύπωση ότι τους φιλάει το χέρι επειδή του στείλανε τις κάρτες εγκαίρως για να έχει έτοιμο το review του με την ανακοίνωση της nvidia. Με το που ανακοίνωσε ότι θα δημοσιεύσεις review η επισκεπτημότητα ανέβηκε, εκτός αυτού στα φόρουμς γράφανε μερικοί ότι κάνανε συνέχεια ανανέωση (F5) στην σελίδα με τα νέα αλλά και στο σχετικό threat του forum για να μάθουν τις τελευταίες εξελίξεις, παρόλο που τίποτα δεν ανανεωνόταν στο site πριν την επίσημη ανακοίνωση της nVidia.

[d3m0n]

nickelodeon, δεν με κατάλαβες.

 

Ασχετα με το τι λένε, δεν παίζει να έκαναν καινούργια τεστ με τους 10,3. Αυτά τα νούμερα είναι παρμένα απ' τις μετρήσεις με τους πρώτους Beta(δεν θυμάμαι όνομα) τον Σεπτέμβριο.

[chek2fire]

Είδα τα διάφορα review και έχω απογοητευτεί από αυτές τις νέες κάρτες. Καταρχήν ανεβάζουν απίστευτα υψηλές θερμοκρασίες. Δλδ ότι πρέπει για Ελλάδα μέσα καλοκαιριού...

Μετά κανούν αρκετά θόρυβο που με μετρήσεις πάνε ανάμεσα στα 42-50dBA

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news/geforce-gtx-480-noise-levels-debunked/

 

μερικά site μιλάνε για μεγαλύτερα ποσοστά θορύβου αν και το guru3d τους διαψεύδει στην πράξη.

Τέλος είναι αρκετά ενεργοβόρες αλλά αυτό είναι έτσι και αλλιώς κάτι το αναμενόμενο για high end κάρτες γραφικών.

[d3m0n]

Γιατί αναμενόμενο;

Και η 5870 high end είναι, και καταναλώνει σχεδόν τα μισά.

[panther_512]

Βασικά αυτή είναι και η δική μου άποψη, αλλά δεν ήθελα να την βάλω στο πρώτο πόστ, ουτως ώστε να είναι αντικειμενικό 100%.

 

Αυτό που βλέπω εγώ από αυτά τα πρώτα reviews είναι ότι οι νέες Nvidia είναι λίγο πιό γρήγορες από τις 5850 και 5870, αλλά πολύ πιό ενεργοβόρες, με πολύ υψηλές θερμοκρασίες.

 

Ένα βήμα μπροστά στο performance και μερικά βήματα πίσω στην κατανάλωση/θερμοκρασία.

 

Εντωμεταξύ αυτό το παιχνίδι το Metro 2033: Τόσο απίστευτα γραφικά εχει και είναι τόσο απίστευτα βαρύ ή μήπως το engine του είναι άστα-βράστα?

[Psycho_Warhead]

Γιατί αναμενόμενο;

Και η 5870 high end είναι, και καταναλώνει σχεδόν τα μισά.

 

ΗD5870 : Performance

GTX470 : Performance

HD5970 : High-end

GTX480 : High-end

[tmjuju]

ΗD5870 : Performance

GTX470 : Performance

HD5970 : High-end

GTX480 : High-end

 

Με ποια κριτήρια?

Κατηγορία τιμής?

[d3m0n]

Την στιγμή που υπάρχει η 5970 δεν την λες και high end την 480.