Basikes erwthseis gia systhma P4

[ASSOS]

8elw na ftia3w ena systhma me P4 epe3ergasth gia ena filo. Exw kapoies vasikes erwthseis epeidh den exw asxolhe8ei me P4.

 

a)ASUS P4G8X (E7205) Deluxe h' ASUS P4PE (845PE)? Basika gnwrizete tis diafores anamesa sta dyo chipset?

b)Ti epe3ergasth proteinete se sxesh apodosh/timh? Katw apo 300 Euro. Yparxoun sta idia Ghz diaforetikes "seires" opws stous AMD? Ti prepei na prose3w?

c)Sthn periptwsh motherboard pou proteinete ti mnhmes na valw? 8elw 512MB. Paizei kapoio rolo h marka h' ean valw mia 512 h' dyo 256? Mou fenete oti to teleftaio isxiei gia thn periptwsh Dual DDR. Ti prepei na prose3w kai edw?

d)Episis 8a valw controller gia IDE RAID 0. Exete kati sto nou sas? Ti lete gia ton Adaptec ATA RAID 1200A?

 

THX

[BrwmogazoS]

H granite bay motherboard tis asus einai overpriced kai den prosferei kanena apolytws performance increase se sxesh me ta Intel 845PE chipsets.Gia na deis kapoia diafora 8a prepei na tin trekseis panw apo 180 fsb mias kai oi mnhmes tis trexoun synchronous se 1:1 ratio me tin cpu...Ara an den exeis enan C-1 intel P4 cpu na ton synodeyseis tote tsampa ta lefta ta extra gia to dual ddr motherboard...

 

Pare loipon tin Asus P4PE...

 

Cpu afthn thn stigmh gia intel pare ton 2.4B me 533 fsb...exei poly kalo price-performance ratio compared me alles cpus .Zhta gia C-1 stepping 1.525Vcore afou exoun pio kainourio core kai clockaroun kala an skeftei sto mellon o filos sou na clockarei.Stous 2.4 B however exei parathrh8ei oti einai megalo 8ema tyxhs gia to an 8a sou katsei kalos clocker akoma kai C-1...anyway.

 

gia to P4PE board pare PC2700 ram opwsdhpote mhn sou pw 3200-3500 an skefteis na clockareis ligo kai na trexeis me 3:4 divider tin ram se sxesh me to FSB tou CPU...

 

IDE RAID controller 8a exei panw to board sou...Giati na petakseis tsampa fraga...Arketa kainouria boards erxontai kai me serial ata controllers...

 

An 8eleis epipleon info just ask

[ASSOS]

Efxaristw file Brwmogaze!

Meta pou ekana to post epsa3a sto internet kai telika diapistwsa afto pou les gia to Granite Bay. Telika to mono pou sou dinei parapanw einai to AGP8x kai to parapanw slot gia mnhmh.

O filos apofasise P4 giati leei oti einai pio anava8misimo apo to AMD mobo. Egw eimai AMDakias alla den mporesa na ton peisw kai isws exei dikio ean lavoume ypopsi oti me8avrio mporei na valei ena hyper threading cpu.

 

a)Proteinw to Gigabyte GA-8PE667 Ultra 2 me 845PE kai RAID contr. on board. Ti gnwmh exeis gia to parapanw board? H P4Pe den exei IDE raid contr. on board distyxws. Se serial ATA ti na to kanei twra afou den exei S-ATA diskous?

b)Mnhmh dhladh proteineis kalhtera DDR400? Mia 512 h' 2x256? Kai ti marka omws? mou eipan sto katasthma oti exoun kingstom. Einai kales?

c)3ereis mexri poso mporoun na ftasoun se oc oi 2.4B pou les me C-1 stepping me to cooler tis mamas tous? Exeis na proteineis kati se cooler?

 

THX a lot.

Otan 8a tou ftia3oume to systhma 8a 8elw voh8eia meta gia to oc. Einai filarakos kai 8elw na tou to kanw na petaei!

[BrwmogazoS]

No probs file ASSOS...sthn dia8esh sas...opws kai oloi oi insomniacs pisteyw

 

Proswpika Giga board DEN goustarw...Tin Titan 667 tin exei filos mou kai exei kapoia overclocking options...alla den tin exw doulepsei gia na sou pw...ton 2.26 tou pou anevasa ligo mporw na pw oti mia xara bios eixe...twra apo stability etc...den mporwsa na dw...

 

An mporesei na vre SATA adaptor gia tin Asus einai Comple...8a tou stoixhsei omws...einai adaptor opws exw ston WD 800JB mou pou hr8e mazi me tin IT7MAX2 mou kai syndeeis tous kanonikous IDE sklhrous me Sata controller

 

8a protimousa tin Asus alla apoti fenetai den exete polles epiloges ekei katw....Are elladara ....

 

Mnhmes DDR 3200 Sigoura...3500 akoma kalytera...

 

Oi Corsair mou trexoune sta 450mhz xwris kanena problhma ...rated sta 434 mhz...PC 3500 XMS...Ara an arxiseis na clockareis agria kai 8es max mem bandwith otidhpote katw apo 3200 8a se krathsei pisw...To kalo me PE chipsets einai to 4:5 divider tou...ara h ram sou mporei na einai mesa se specs compared me tis V1 IT7MAX2 mou pou exei to i845E chipset kai "mono" 3:4 divider///h V2 exei 845PE

 

Mnhmh an pareis 2 stickakia na ksereis pws kai 8a sou kostisoun akrivotera...kai 8a se periorisoun ligo sto clocking an tis trexeis me divider...ara pio grhgoro fsb apo afto tou epeksergasth...

ALLA se symferoun apenanti sto 1 stickaki 512 giati se future upgrade se kana kainourio (springdale etc) board 8a sou xreiastoun ta 2 stickakia gia Dual DDR config...

 

Exw enan C-1 2.4...prin 3-4 meres ton phra gia ton aderfo mou arxika afou eixa 2.53ghz...kai phra C-1 SL6EF...clockarei ton kwlo tou...177fsb evgale me aera...kai low CFM fan...sto vapo mou 189FSB me settings OXI maxxed gia cooling apo tin pleyra tou vapo...oi 2.4 einai psilo risky...akoma kai C-1 einai poly 8ema tyxhs ti 8a sou katsei...Enw apo 2.66-2.8 kai panw oloi oi C-1 clockaroun arketa kala...

 

To mama cooler gia ena metrio overclock mia xara einai xwris polla reymata etc...allwste 8a deis pws enas C-1 P4 me 1.525 core 8a anevei poly me to mama core...just like that

 

 

[ASSOS]

To Asus pernei kai DDR355 kai etsi einai kalytero tou Gigabyte.

Adaptores gia S-ATA den mporeis na vreis efkola

Opote menei to Gigabyte

Oi kingston einai kales mnhmes?

DDR3200 einai h 333?

H Abit einai h kalyterh periptwsh alla distixws den tin fernei to katasthma pou 8a agorasoume to hardware.

 

[BrwmogazoS]

DDR 3200 einai 3200/8=400mhz

Ara 200 fsb mnhmes...

 

To i845PE chipset yposthrizei support kai gia 333...mhn kollas se afta omws giati opws sou eipa exoun mem dividers...3:4 kai 4:5...

 

Ara me 3:4 divider enabled kai 150fsb stin cph sou h ram 8a trexei sta 200fsb=400mhz...ara to stock speed mias pc 3200 ram...giafto sou lew 3500 einai akoma kalytera...sigoura mia 3200ara DDR mporei na pusharistei akoma parapanw alla den einai sigouro an 8a exeis stability kai kata poso 8a xreiastei na anevaseis reymata...opws sou eipa oi Corsair XMS 3500 mou pianoun 450mhz... enw einai 434mhz stock

 

Oi kingston kales akougontai...alla nomizw einai rated cl 2.5? kai oxi cl2...

 

333 ram einai PC 2700

[ASSOS]

rated cl 2.5? kai oxi cl2...???

Ti simainei afto? Einai provlhma?

 

Opote simperasmatika kataligoume sta e3hs:

 

1)Gigabyte GA-8PE667 Ultra 2

2)1x512 Kingston PC3200 kai ean yparxei PC3500 (den exei corsair to magazi)'

3)2.4Ghz C-1 (etsi na ton zhthsw?)Giati opws kai egw einai kai aftoi asxetoi!

 

Ean kanw la8os parapanw dior8ose pls

 

Telika den katalava poso anevhke o 2.4 pou les pio panw. Apo poso mexri poso mporei na ftasei? ?Oi mnhmes katalava. Mporoun na pane poly psila. Etsi den einai?

[BrwmogazoS]

Koita...Corsair an htane na parei to palikari mallon xamena lefta afou den 8a kanei kana "extreme" overclocking as to poume...Ara na skodeye ta antera tou gia Corsair XMS 8a htan malak...

H gigabyte an kai den maresei...einai h monh lysh apoti mou les...

 

Oi kingston einai oi mones apoti vlepw "gnwstes" pou mporeis na pareis...

 

Peri cas rating: oso pio mikro toso pio kalo...Ara kai pio grhgoro to systhma sou otan exeis pio aggressive ram timings.Megalytero mem bandwith

 

Ton 2.4Ghz zhtaton san box...na exei kai cooler mazi apo tin intel kai 3 xronia eggyhsh...Apo ekei kai pera pestous oti 8eleis C-1 stepping...na sou dialeksoun apo tis apo8hkes..giati einai pio kainouria i cpu pes tous...Sto kouti dipla exei ena aspro sticker..leei ta mhz ekei kai panw deksia ta volt...pes tous na sou vroune enan me 1.525 volt...gia na mhn se mplekw me ta FPO numbers kai ta stepping pou 8a prepei na psaxnoune meres an einai asxetoi...

o 2.4 mou anevhke konta 1000mhz..apo 2400 sta 3394mhz...alla me para poly kalh psyksh...me aera koitas gia ligotera

[Gabriel]

Πρόσεξε όμως μήπως το Gigabyte 8PE667 Ultra δεν δουλεύει με 2 dimms,είχα το ίδιο πρόβλημα με GByte 8PE667,όχι ultra βέβαια (χωρίς RAID κτλ) και το άλλαξα για το Asus P4PE.

Το board αυτό δεν θα σου παίξει και τη μνήμη στα 355 όταν έχεις FSB 133,αλλά 333. (divider 2.5 αντί για 2.66)

Το Gbyte 8pe667 είχε divider 2.66 μόνο και το Asus 2.5 και 2.66.

[Gabriel]

Multiplier εννοώ,όχι divider (133*2.5=333 και 133*2.66=354)

[Επισκέπτης]

Αν μπορείς να βρεις Geil μνήμες, πάρτες. Είναι λίγο ακριβότερες από τις Kingston Και ανεβαίνουν πολύ. Οι Kingston PC3200(400MHz) είναι λίγο δυσεύρετες, ενώ είναι και της σειράς Valueram οπότε έχουνε χαλαρά settings για 400MHz. Αν τις πιέσεις (βάλεις πιο agressive timmings) δεν θα αντέξουν...

[ASSOS]

yphrxe logos pou h8eles 2 dimms h' apla eixes to ena kai meta ekanes anaba8mish sthn mnhmh? To 3ewrw oti den pairnei 355 alla eipe o brwmogazos na parw mnhmes PC3200 giati mporei na tis ftasei sta 400 ean katalava kala.

To oti to 8PE667 exei mono multiplyer 2.66 einai provlhma?

 

 

[Επισκέπτης]

Οι PC3200 είναι 400άρες. Το θέμα είναι και τα memory settings που αντέχουν σε αυτές τις ταχύτητες. Γιατί αν δεν αντέχουν agressive settings είναι τα ίδια πάνω κάτω σε ταχύτητα με 333άρες σε agressive settings.

[ASSOS]

Telika tou eipa gia tis epiloges mas kai eimaste se dilima meta3y ASUS P4P5 me 3exwristo IDE RAID controller kai ABIT MAX2 v2 me enswmatomeno.

Eseis ti 8a dialegate?

 

[BrwmogazoS]

er!!!????

Pou tin vrhkes tin IT7MAX2 V2?

 

Tin Abit fysika...pou exei kai enswmatomenw ide raid kai serial ata...Exw tin V1...apo overclocking einai the best...kai me to kainourio bios D7 oute vid pin oute tipota...sou dinei mexri 1.85V core selectable ...krima pou gia 2-3 meres den prolava na mhn kanw to vid pin ston 2.4 mou ...

 

IT7MAX2 V2 me kleista ta matia 8a sou elega

Twra an koitaei gia extreme overclocking...as dei i V2 na exei dipla sta memory banks an exei ena PR13 IIRC resistor pou epitrepei me modded bios ews 3.2V dimm