HDD >>> SCSII vs RAID

[ASSOS]

(sketo ide, oxi ide-raid)<hr /></blockquote>

giati aporipteis to IDE RAID0 ?

Afou einai pio grhgoro apo aplo IDE. Mhpws logo tis periptwshs apoleias dedomenwn?

 

[BrwmogazoS]

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mandos:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote pyro:</font><hr> pantos ton teleutaio kairo h wd me to jb exei parei sbarna olous tous scsi, gnwmh mou einai ide mias kai exeis ligotero kostos, kai ligotero 0orubo (0umhsou oti PREPEI na aeriete o scsi, aliws..), apo thn allh ama 0es fobera apotelesmata, scsi <hr /></blockquote>

 

sovareytite......

DEN YPARXEI hdd pou na mporei na xtypisei enan u160 h enan u320, poso mallon 10000rpm kai 15000rpm

tyxainei na ton exo 20cm dexia mou kai xero ti tha pei 10krpm u160 (seagate chettah, i love this baby!! eixe bgei o taxhteros mi scsi-raid diskos prin ena xrono kai kati)

to mono pou xepernaei kati tetoio einai to scsi-raid

eidika ama exeis 2 hdd scsi to transfer einai taxhtato

 

ego protino scsi, alla kai aplo ide (sketo ide, oxi ide-raid) den einai asxhmh lysh, kai polly poio fthnh

to scsi einai gia alles douleies, den tha dosei tpt sto game gia paradeigma

alla den pezete sthn epexargasia tou hxou apo thn allh meria

 

exartatai ti thes na kaneis

 

kai kati akoma:

oxi maxtor scsi re paidia, MONO seagate... ston tomea scsi den exei antipalo

 

genikotera, to ide-raid den einai para ena thumbnail tou scsi-raid

to scsi-raid (dld to kanoniko raid) yparxei edo kai para polla xronia, to ide bghke prin ligo kairo

to theoro oligon ti apomima, makari na apodixto lathos... symferei thn tseph mou <hr /></blockquote>

 

Mando xalarwse re man..

 

Katarxas exeis cheetah 10K kai mou les oti itan o taxyteros scsi sklhros persy?OXI re...mhpws ta mperdepses...Persy eixame Cheetah 15K_36LP taxytero scsi sklhro kai taxytero SCSI 10K RPM Drive pou epiane performance apo 15K drives ton MAXTOR ATLAS 10K III...giafto kai ton phra.Psiloxamos eixe ginei malista afou htan kai arketa fthnoteros apo alla drives.Mexri pou vghke o Fujitsu taxyteros 10K...Ase pou o ATLAS 10K III "egrapse" gia tin a8oryvh leitourgia tou eidika se iddle operation kai gia tis xamhles temps tou.

 

Mhn mou les oti oi MAXTOR den lene gia scsi...Den mporw na se katalavw...Hdh perimenoume ton 15K tis U320 na doume ti 8a kanei se sxesh me ton kainourio 15x3 tis seagate.Den lew i seagate eixe sto parel8on ta pio grhgora drives alla synama kai ta akrivotera.(£250 gia ton 15K.3 U320 18gb einai parapolla).H maxh me tin Maxtor twra arxisei pisteyw...

[mandos]

file asso den xero polla apo ide-raid...

den to aporipto, apla den to gnorizo kai leo oti protimo to aplo ide kathara gia logous kostous

bromogaze eipa ena xrono kai kati, thn epoxh pou o 15k ths seagate yphrxe mono sthn amerikh kai eixe bgei mono gia 5 meres

exeis dikio, einai konta 2 xronia!!! (ton eixe kai sto pcmag 2o teyxos nomizo)

diko mou lathos

 

tora oso gia thn apopsh mou peri maxtor einai kathara prosopikh exo dei polla, me para pollous diskous kai exo bgei sto symperasma oti oi seagate einai value-for-money kai exoun kai antoxes (an exereseis oti epesa se elatomatikh seira otan phra ta scsi :ppp eythxos mou ta allaxan)

 

apla kai mono exo dei poly perissoterous xalasmenoun maxtor,wd, quantum kai ibm para seagate

auto den shmainei oti den einai grhgoroi, apla oti den tous polyempisteyomai

fysika kai eimai anoixtos se nees paragoges apo oles tis etairies apla meno ligo statheros, that's all

to thema me tis temps pou les einai megalh ypothesh, athorivoi einai polloi (o dikos mou den akougetai pragmatika katholou) alla thelei kai 2 fans gia na mhn ginei karvouno :ppp

ekei bgainei o thorivos

 

pantos gia na po thn alhtheia, exo kairo na asxolitho me to thema hdd... dystixos, alla den pezei kai xrhma gia agores

[nm2001]

file BrwmogazoS epeidi den poli pisteueis to bench tou sandra kai mas parepemspes sto http://www.storagereview.com/ gia scsi kai ide singriseis epese to mati mou se 2 screen shots tou win bench99 peri performance to ena wd 800 jb kai to allo seagate 15k.3.

to 15k.3 ksekinaei me 76.4mb/sec sto transfer test kai teleiwnei sta 51.1 opos les kai antistoixa wd 800jb 49.5-38 kai ksethapsa ena palio thread tou hardware edo

http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB7&Number=144517&Forum=All_Forums&Words=nm2001&Match=Username&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=144501&Search=true#Post144517

me to raid 0 to diko mou me stripe/cluster 16/16 na ksekinaei 81.3 kai teleionei 83.8 me to idio to winbench 99 mia kai to thema mas edo einai raid/scsi kai sxesi taxititas/kostos

[BrwmogazoS]

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mandos:</font><hr> file asso den xero polla apo ide-raid...

den to aporipto, apla den to gnorizo kai leo oti protimo to aplo ide kathara gia logous kostous

bromogaze eipa ena xrono kai kati, thn epoxh pou o 15k ths seagate yphrxe mono sthn amerikh kai eixe bgei mono gia 5 meres

exeis dikio, einai konta 2 xronia!!! (ton eixe kai sto pcmag 2o teyxos nomizo)

diko mou lathos

 

tora oso gia thn apopsh mou peri maxtor einai kathara prosopikh exo dei polla, me para pollous diskous kai exo bgei sto symperasma oti oi seagate einai value-for-money kai exoun kai antoxes (an exereseis oti epesa se elatomatikh seira otan phra ta scsi :ppp eythxos mou ta allaxan)

 

apla kai mono exo dei poly perissoterous xalasmenoun maxtor,wd, quantum kai ibm para seagate

auto den shmainei oti den einai grhgoroi, apla oti den tous polyempisteyomai

fysika kai eimai anoixtos se nees paragoges apo oles tis etairies apla meno ligo statheros, that's all

to thema me tis temps pou les einai megalh ypothesh, athorivoi einai polloi (o dikos mou den akougetai pragmatika katholou) alla thelei kai 2 fans gia na mhn ginei karvouno :ppp

ekei bgainei o thorivos

 

pantos gia na po thn alhtheia, exo kairo na asxolitho me to thema hdd... dystixos, alla den pezei kai xrhma gia agores <hr /></blockquote>

 

Sigoura kai emena i no1 epilogh Seagate cheetah 8a htan...alla polla parapanw ta fraga vlepeis.

Kai gia enan sygatoiko prin 3 xronia pou phrame Scsi HDD kai controller me ATLAS 2 bleksame an 8ymamai kala.Phrame 2 drives kai ta 2 dead...ase pou psaxname san tous xazous na doume ti ftaiei kai den epairne to leitourgiko to pc...hmastan kai asxetoi me scsi tote kai rixname arketa ^%$"£...Tespa phrame IBM DDYS me 4mb cache IIRC kai doulepse...Alla afto den me apetrepse apo to na parw Maxtor-Quantum .

[BrwmogazoS]

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote nm2001:</font><hr> file BrwmogazoS epeidi den poli pisteueis to bench tou sandra kai mas parepemspes sto http://www.storagereview.com/ gia scsi kai ide singriseis epese to mati mou se 2 screen shots tou win bench99 peri performance to ena wd 800 jb kai to allo seagate 15k.3.

to 15k.3 ksekinaei me 76.4mb/sec sto transfer test kai teleiwnei sta 51.1 opos les kai antistoixa wd 800jb 49.5-38 kai ksethapsa ena palio thread tou hardware edo

http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB7&Number=144517&Forum=All_Forums&Words=nm2001&Match=Username&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=144501&Search=true#Post144517

me to raid 0 to diko mou me stripe/cluster 16/16 na ksekinaei 81.3 kai teleionei 83.8 me to idio to winbench 99 mia kai to thema mas edo einai raid/scsi kai sxesi taxititas/kostos <hr /></blockquote>

 

To kostos to ksexname vasika giati IDE einai safws fthnotera.Alla to 8ema tis taxythtas einai sxetiko...Afksomeiwnontas ta cluster kai stripe mporeis na pareis poly kales "grafikes" se benchmark proggys alla prepei na kratas enan meso oro se cluster kai stripe giati to mege8os twn arxeiwn pou metafereis ka8e fora den einai to idio.Giafto an to exeis optimised gia pc mikra files se metafores megalwn den paei kai toso kala apoti 8ymamai.

 

Sxetiko einai to 8ema tis taxythtas lew giati to systhma sou ginetai safws pio nevriko me enan scsi sklhro oti raid array kai an exeis.KAI AFTO einai pou metraei gia mena perissotero.TO ACCESS.8elw na vlepw nevro sto systhma kati pou me kanenan IDE sklhro den mporw na petyxw.Anoikse ena photoshop me IDE raid kai me enan scsi hdd sto idio systhma kai des poio 8a fortwsei pio grhgora...

[nm2001]

ara pisteyo na kalipsame ton filo to asso gia tis apories tou gia to topic me tis apantiseis?

[mandos]

nomizo nai, to symperasma eina:

 

pare ena scsi-raid 5x32gb seagate chettah 15000rpm hot swap

[BrwmogazoS]

<blockquote><font class="small">Quote mandos:</font><hr> nomizo nai, to symperasma eina:

 

pare ena scsi-raid 5x32gb seagate chettah 15000rpm hot swap

<hr /></blockquote>

 

Makari na mporousame na ta skame me to tsouvali gia tetoia setup.Eixa dei benchies apo 4x15K 36LP cheetah i think se Adaptec Raid controller kai eixa pa8ei plaka...To pou kai an 8a mas xreiazontousan einai allo 8ema ...

[nm2001]

den mas dineis to link kai mas mpas kai anatheorisoume tis gnomes gia scsi

[BrwmogazoS]

makari na 8ymomoun...htan sto discussion tou SR pantws

[Nfountou]

Re paidia ok to scsi mporei na einai polu kalutero alla egw den mporw na dianohthw na skasw toso xrhma gia 36G... Exw 2 120GXP se raid 0 me stripe 16K kai mia kartoula Inno3d Raid ata 133 kai eimai polu euxaristhmenos. H olh fash phge peripou 265 euro kai vgazw peripou 45-46K sto sandra...

Kata th gnwmh mou enas aplos xrhsths den xreiazetai kai toso scsi...

[BrwmogazoS]

Kala to ti xreiazomaste kai ti oxi einai gnwsto...

Poios douleyei 3 ghz cpu se 100% load synexeia?alla se olous aresei to systhma tou na einai olo kai pio grhgoro...to 8ema pantws sklhrou paizei megalo rolo se ka8e ypologisth.Mia anava8mish se grhgoro sklhro 8a sou dwsei pio "amesa" apotelesmata sthn nevrikothta tou olou systhmatos.Oi times omws gia scsi einai poly pshles eidika an koitas gia High end 15K hard drives kai U160-U320 controllers...

[mandos]

tyxainei na exo ftiaxei mhxanes me 5x18 kai 5x32 chettah se raid kai mporo na po oti mono to benchmark den mou xreiazotan, emfaneis diafora

 

to ti xreiazomaste:

500mhz cpu, tnt2, 256 ram, 20gb hdd,4x cd-r, 4x dvd,sb64,lan 10

to parapano systhmataki kaka ta psemmata kanei ta panta... kai ligo thorivo

giati kaka ta psemmata thn texnmologia thn kanoun ta paixnidia, to parapano systhma fortonei xp/office, complarei ligo sta proggies hxou kai grafikon vevaia

exartatai panta apo to ti xrhsh thelei na kanei o kathenas

 

genika eimai tis gnomhs oti kalhtera grhgoroi hdd para h taxhterh cpu, eimai sta 733 kai den eixa pote provlhma (kai oute fenete pos tha exo)

 

(mhpos eimaste ektos thematos?? oxi tpt allo, mhn mas kopsoun mono...)