1=2?!?

[Sta]

File ultramarine ayto pou parathrhse o psou einai oti: o x+x+..+x - x-fores , den poluexei nohma an to x den einai fusikos,fadasou na sou elege kapoios "riza 2" fores!Exei nohma?mallon oxi.Egw telws pantwn ,perimena ws lush sto problhma ayth pou eipa egw kai alloi,alla oxi ayth pou eipe o psou.H prwth einai pio exezhthmenh,h defterh pio aplh kai profanhs.

[ultramarine]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gosta100:<BR><STRONG>File ultramarine ayto pou parathrhse o psou einai oti: o x+x+..+x - x-fores , den poluexei nohma an to x den einai fusikos,fadasou na sou elege kapoios "riza 2" fores!Exei nohma?mallon oxi.Egw telws pantwn ,perimena ws lush sto problhma ayth pou eipa egw kai alloi,alla oxi ayth pou eipe o psou.H prwth einai pio exezhthmenh,h defterh pio aplh kai profanhs.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Re paidia ti den katalabainete? Skefteite ayto (twra poy to skeftomai ua sas gohuhsei na to katalabete) : Estw h synarthsh f(x)=x<BR>Einai paragwgisimh gia kaue x OK?<BR>Twra egw aythn thn synarthsh th grafw 1+1+...+1 (x fores). <BR><B>Payei na einai paragwgisimh??????</B>Symfwna ne tis parapanw malakies h synarthsh pairnei mono akeraies times!!!! An einai dynaton!!!!! Kai symfwna me tis pio parapanw malakies ua eprepe [(1+1+...+1) (x fores)]' na mas kanei 0 0+0+...+0) (x fores)=0<BR>Omws x'=1. H lysh poy leei o psou<B>den yfistatai</B> giati h synarthsh x^2 pairnei times sto R kai oxi sto Z.Paei kai teleiwse!!!!<BR>Eipame, o tropos pou paragwgizete einai lauos kai oxi h synarthsh.O ntsili eixei dikio. Kai pes mas twra psou pws thn paragwgizeis? Opws eipa pio panw? Afhnontas to x fores sthn apeksw?

[ma05860-]

File ultramarine ksereis ti simainei to R* kai to amfisbiteis?To r*simainei oti pedio orismou tis sinartisis einai olo to R aktos apo to 0 to opoio einai kai profanes.Auto loipon to amfisbiteis?Klao tha einai na kratame kai kapoies epifilakseis gia auta pou leme giati alliws tha xaraktiristoume yperoptes kai den nomizw oti ta atoma pou einai edw einai yperoptes.Oute egw eipa pote oti auto pou lew einai swsto.Mia gnwmi eipa gia na boithisw.

[ultramarine]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ma05860-:<BR><STRONG>File ultramarine ksereis ti simainei to R* kai to amfisbiteis?To r*simainei oti pedio orismou tis sinartisis einai olo to R aktos apo to 0 to opoio einai kai profanes.Auto loipon to amfisbiteis?Klao tha einai na kratame kai kapoies epifilakseis gia auta pou leme giati alliws tha xaraktiristoume yperoptes kai den nomizw oti ta atoma pou einai edw einai yperoptes.Oute egw eipa pote oti auto pou lew einai swsto.Mia gnwmi eipa gia na boithisw.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Giati, eipa egw oti amfisbhtw to R*?<BR>H synarthsh isxyei kai gia x=0 dioti 0^2=0+0+...+0 ( 0 fores).Aplws den to egrapsa giati mperdeyomaste akomh perissotero.Giati ues na ta periplekseis?<BR>Egw milhsa gia akeraious kai pragmatikoys...

[sh4dow]

[(1+1+...+1) (x fores)]' den einai paragogos ginomenou?<P>diladi f'(x) = x' = [(1+1+...+1) (x fores)]' = (1+1+...+1)'*x + (1+1+...+1)*x' = 0*x + (1+1+...+1)*1 = x != 1 pou tha eprepe na einai kai oxi 0 mias kai 1+1+..+1 einai x fores? ti malakies leme thee mou

[ultramarine]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sh4dow:<BR><STRONG>[(1+1+...+1) (x fores)]' den einai paragogos ginomenou?<P>diladi f'(x) = x' = [(1+1+...+1) (x fores)]' = (1+1+...+1)'*x + (1+1+...+1)*x' = 0*x + (1+1+...+1)*1 = x != 1 pou tha eprepe na einai kai oxi 0 mias kai 1+1+..+1 einai x fores? ti malakies leme thee mou </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oxi file mou! Kaneis ena TRAGIKO lauos.<BR>To x=1+...+1 (x fores) <B>DEN</B> einai ginomeno.<BR>10=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 (deka fores).POY to blepeis esy to ginomeno mono esy to ksereis...Koita kala ti paragwgish ekanes!!!<BR>Sto ena to skelos paragwgises to (1+...+1)x to opoio apo mono tou einai .. ase kalytera, giati (1+1+...+1)x mas kanei 2x kai oxi x.<BR>To "fores" shmainei auroisma kai oxi ginomeno<BR>Ayta...

[psou]

ultramarine> malon den katalaves ti lew <BR>prosexe na katalaveis:<BR>exoume th synarthsh f(x)=x*x<BR>h f einai synexhs kai paragwgisimh sto R.<BR>omos gia na grapsoume oti:<BR>f(x)=x+x+x+..+x h<BR>f(x)=x(1+1+...+1) (x fores to 1) proypo8etei, oti o X EINAI AKAIRAIOS.giati:<BR>1+1+1+...1=k, k anhkei sto Z.<BR>diladi, gia x=sqrt(2) (riza 2) den exei nohma tipota apo ta parapanw.<BR>pws esy 8a kaneis to a8roisma monadwn na einai siso me riza 2?<BR>Akomh. pws 8a grapseis to x*x=x+x+x+...+x<BR>otan prepei na exeis riza 2 fores to x?<BR>As ypo8esoume twra, pws exoume th synarthsh pou les...<BR>f(x)=x ok?<BR>esy grafeis: f(x)=1+1+1+1+...1 (x fores to ena)<BR>omos opos sou e3hgw kai pio panw ayto boreis na to kaneis otan h synarthsh exei p.o. tous fysikous.an exei omos tous fysikous, den einai synexhs oute paragwgisimh oute tpt.<BR>Oso, gia to pws to paragwgizw...<BR>Poly apla den paragwgizetai gia tous logous pou sou anefera prin.<P>plz na skeytesai ligo prin kaneis reply, kai mhn to paizeis e3ypnos, aporiptodas tis idees twn allwn.poso malon otan o dikos sou sylogismos einai lan8asmenos!

[KaKoFoNiX]

Prepei ontws o x na anhkei stous akeraious kai giauto de mporei na ginei paragwgish!!!<BR>Oso gia to allo pou apodeikniei oti a=b gia olous tous pragmatikous den isxuei afou den akoloutheis isodunamia <=> otan prostheteis dio isothtes!

[ultramarine]

Kala re paidia!!! Osoi pane mauhmatiko ua ta doune sto panepisthmio.Apla den kserete akoma tetoies ennoies...Den huela na fanei oti to paizw eksypnos...<BR>Filika ultramarine

[psou]

gosta100> twra pou koita3a thn apodixh sou, exeis ena mikro (megalo) la8os <BR>Les: "Exw loipon duo sunarthseis:<BR>f(x)=x^2 & g(x)=x+x+...+x - x-fores<BR>Einai ises nomizw"<P>Omos den einai ises giati den exoun to idio pedio orismou.

[Sta]

Nai file psou dikio exeis sumfwna me osa eipes kai pio panw.Des kai ti leei o ultramarine gia to 8ema omws.