Alien autopsy video?

[Dreamcatcher]

Epidi ftiaxnw ena sxetiko cd edw kai arketo kairo me para polla kimena,video kai photos sxetika me ufos thelo na vrw kai na katevaso to gnosto video poueixan pexei kai kapia stigmi paliotera oi idiseis.To mono pou exw kataferei na vrw einai kapia poli mikra komatia 1 me dio mb.Gnorizo oti olokliro einai giro sta 60 giati to exw dei sto winmx,to provlima omos einai oti pote den katevenei.xerei kapios kapio site pou mporw na to vrw?

[privateer]

Gia des edw:

http://www.drbit.com.ru/x-lab/video/varchive_eng.html

[Επισκέπτης]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by privateer:

<strong>Gia des edw:

http://www.drbit.com.ru/x-lab/video/varchive_eng.html</strong><hr></blockquote><p>poly wraio link thanx privateer

[crAss]

Pantos eixe kikloforisei kai ena cdrom ellada me olokliro to video kai itan giro tis 7000 an thimame kala.

Pantos opos oloi xeroume to video einai moufa. To eftiaxan meta. Na einai kala to palikari pou prosexe oti to kalodio tou tilefonou vgike se paragogi 2 xronia meta apo tin imerominia pou giristike to videaki...<p>crAss

[Dreamcatcher]

tora diladi signomi alla me trelanes.to video simfono mporei na einai moufa alla oxi gia to kalodio.epidi oli ipan auto esy prepei na to pistepseis?kai pious mou leei emena pos to sigrekimeno kalodio ipirxe tote apla den pouliotan eureos.diladi edwse kapios tosa polla pola xrimata gia na ftiaxei kati tetio kai ekane ena toso ilithio lathos?kai egw pisteuo kai egw pos to videaki einai 60% moufa alla den to aperipsa amesos epidi kapios mlkas ipe pos den ipirxe kai kala auto to kalodio

[crAss]

eixa dei apodeixeis tote...

den eixe anakalifthei to spiral kalodio gia to tilefono tote. Emfanistike gia proti fora 2 xronia meta. Pantos tis apodeixeis den ti exo proxeires na tis anafero...<p>crAss

[AbreLosOjos]

Αυτό που είπες για τα χρήματα, δε νομίζω ότι παίζει κανένα ρόλο, σιγά το κόστος.

Όσο για το βίντεο, δεν μπορεί να είναι μια απόπειρα από κάποιους να αποσιωπήσουν το γεγονός;

Επίτηδες "ξέχασαν" το σπιράλ, για να πούμε μετά ότι ήταν μούφα το βίντεο...

[Επισκέπτης]

To kako se aftes tis periptwseis einai oti oi 9 stis 10 einai pseftikes, kai isws kai kai gia afto h olh istoria me ta ATIA exei psiloekselixtei se enan apo tous PLEON AMFISVHTISIMOUS xwrous stis thewries synwmosias.

kai milwntas gia tis 9 pseftikes, h mia ypoloiph pou mporei na einai alh8inh mporei na mhn einai apo ekswghinous paragontes.

Pantws yparxei kai sto pathfinder ena club pou exw dei einai to http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/X_FILES kai exei arketa videos, photos kai links gia na katevasei o ka8enas, arketa apo ta opoia einai poly kala.

[privateer]

...<p>[ 21-01-2002: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: privateer ]</p>

[privateer]

............<p>[ 21-01-2002: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: privateer ]</p>

[privateer]

Etsi einai dystyxws!

To video kata 90% einai fake!Oso gia tis apodeixeis oriste ena ar8ro pou exw (megalo bebaia alla axizei):<p>

The remarkable aspect of the alleged Roswell alien saucer crash is that in nearly 50 years of tenacious efforts to legitimize the event by scores of believers and supposed witnesses and participants, not a single, solitary bit of tangible, credible evidence has been found to support such a fantastic and significant event. Despite the reports of extensive debris found in the field at this alleged crash site; despite the many who allegedly handled material fragments with amazing qualities; despite hearsay that the alien bodies and craft were spirited away with unheard-of government efficiency and conspiratorial secrecy to locations that remain mysterious and unproven; despite all these exceedingly unlikely occurrences, no one has surfaced with a hint of convincing, supportive evidence; not even a tiny piece of that mysterious material scattered so widely and handled by so many has surfaced for examination. Didn't anyone slip a fragment into his or her pocket? And now, perhaps to mark the event's upcoming 50th anniversary, someone is apparently trying again to prove this was really an extraterrestrial event -- this time with an alien autopsy film.

I recognize that it is far easier to create a hoax than to unmask one. But the question "Why?" effectively exposes the bizarre scenarios depicted in the autopsy film as blatant fabrications. <p>Why introduce a film now, when alleged mortal fear of repercussions from the government supposedly silenced all witnesses for decades? If the film is authentic, why didn't someone cash in on it in a big way, decades ago, selling it to the highest bidder in a worldwide auction by an agent assuring anonymity of the source? Other than placing a period clock and telephone in the scene, why didn't the filmmaker use some rudimentary special effects to give the autopsy scenario at least the appearance of being more than the clumsy gropings of veiled, amateur actors impersonating medical investigators? <p>Considering that an alien autopsy would have been a unique event, the maker of this film should have attempted at least to give the appearance of the event being authentic and credible. Why not use a group of actors trained in instrument handling? Why not progress through a systematic autopsy process, rather than just slash and cut out viscera? And wouldn't it have been better to show the need to take many days or weeks to unravel and comprehend the allegedly unrecognizable, misplaced internal organs? But none of these essential procedures was observed, indicating that the autopsy was not authentic, but was contrived by low budget, poorly advised nonprofessionals. <p>There was no systematic progression of the autopsy, starting from a careful examination and penetration of organs and orifices, particularly since alien lore predicates extraordinary eyes, lack of ears or hearing, imperforated oral cavities and questionable need for gastrointestinal tracts, and no genital or anal structures. Next, skilled unroofing of the body cavities would have been followed by surgically precise and detailed dissection, delineating interrelationships, continuity, and formations of the various unknown internal organ systems, during which time decomposition of the body would need to be prevented by some preservation or embalming process. Indeed, there might have been a rare -- no, unprecedented and unparalleled -- opportunity to study an alien corpse; but it was not an autopsy that was needed, but rather, a systematic, lengthy, detailed, precise, anatomic dissection and microscopic study of a well-preserved body by a team of specialists of the various, presumably strange, organ systems. No less than that was done in the initial evaluations of the newly discovered Coelocanths. (When a carcass of this primitive fish, thought to be extinct, was first dredged from the depths of the Indian Ocean off Madagascar, ichthyologists worldwide were involved in its dissection, study, and preservation.) <p>Instead, the dramatic and graphic autopsy -- performed with far less diligence and skill than a routine autopsy -- was staged by the filmmaker in two scenes. First, the anonymous, hooded figures stand around ineptly trying to occupy their hands, clearly devoid of the rudimentary skills of manual examination of a body, generally expected of any physician, clinical pathologist, or other medical professional. This is followed by tentative, insecure incising, with the operator's face peering down close to the body from which he or she wants to be shielded by wearing the protective suit. Scene two shows the body open; the same inexperienced, unskilled hands are groping around randomly and unsystematically, and without efforts to recognize or analyze organ structures, relationships, or continuity. The bizarre body contents are blindly chopped out and tossed into pans. Ironically, since the external body structure appears so humanlike, the real question is, why should these internal organs be so unrecognizable? <p>An autopsy is done to determine a disease process, a deviation from the norm, or the cause of death. When the norm is unknown, as would be the case with an alien body, then a careful anatomic dissection is needed with frequent samples being taken for microscopic examination. Anatomical dissection consists of precise steps of delineation, tracing the continuity and relationship of each fold, loop, or bulge to adjacent structures, particularly if the anatomy is unknown and unrecognized as claimed here. <p>This poorly performed autopsy may have botched a golden opportunity to learn much about this corpse. But it is consistent with an ill-designed hoax. Observation of how ineptly the instruments are held and used is also revealing, and distinguishes a skilled medical professional from an actor. Scissors, for example, are not held with the forefinger and thumb awkwardly pointing off sideways, as was done in the film. Instead, the ring finger and thumb are placed in the scissors' holes, the middle finger stabilizes, and the index finger is used to direct the scissor tip precisely. Dissection should be done with judicious irrigation and sponging of obscuring fluids (none was seen in the film); dissection is done with direct vision of the knife or scissor points and not by blindly cutting, as depicted. The chopping out and removal of body contents would have totally distorted the functional and structural relationships of organs and destroyed the functional anatomy. <p>The peculiar headgear of these hooded operators is also enigmatic. Presumably, the hoods were intended to protect against microbes, vapors, or other alien toxins. But as shown, the hoods would cause rapid asphyxia from anoxia and accumulation of exhaled carbon dioxide. Where are the pumps and hoses necessary to supply fresh air to the operators? Without a circulating air supply, the visors would also have become rapidly fogged by condensation, and vision would be obscured. The lack of a detectable air supply suggests that the hoods used for this film were sufficiently porous for air exchange to occur freely, and thus would provide no protection against toxic gases or microbial contagion. All these observations are also most consistent with an ill-designed theatrical mock-up, rather than an actual autopsy of a potentially contagious, decomposing, alien corpse. <p>The mode of photographic documentation also raises countless questions: Why did a professional photographer repeatedly, if not intentionally, go out of focus and usually position himself or herself behind the actors to obscure the view at the most crucial moments -- such as when the cranium (head) was opened? Why was the removal of the skullcap not seen, nor the in situ appearance of the brain? Why was a movie camera chosen for documentation (since movie cameras were known to have a focus problem) when efficient 35 mm still cameras with close-up lenses and color film were available at the time and commonly used for medical/surgical/pathological documentation? Furthermore, why was the camera operator allowed to take away and keep a film, when, according to testimony presented, an otherwise high level of secrecy was exercised and enforced with mortal threats? Why did the camera operator not ship this roll back to the military, as he or she did with the other rolls of film, instead of notifying the military to pick it up; and why did the military -- incredibly -- allow the camera operator to keep this top secret film? Of course a movie camera poorly focused and poorly positioned would be the choice of someone intending to tantalize, mislead, and not reveal any information in the course of hoax. <p>Only two conclusions are possible from this film: Either this is the work of beginners attempting to create a hoax to resuscitate the corpse of Roswell crash lore; or, if the film is intended to portray an actual autopsy of an unusual humanoid body (a proposition untenable and entirely unsubstantiated), then it is a documentation of the crime of the millennium -- the brutal butchery, devastation, and destruction of unique evidence and an unparalleled opportunity to gain some understanding about this deformed creature, regardless of its origin. <p>I hope that this critique will not guide someone to produce a more believable alien autopsy film. <p>Gia to sygkekrimeno video pantws merika kala link einai:

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1011/iri5.htm

http://www.trudang.com/autopsy/autocont.html[/QB]

[CENTAURUS]

Τora ena tetoio thema xoraei polu suzhthsh,h opoia mallon den tha odhghsei pouthena...oson afora gia thn legomenh tenia tou mr.alien,den mporo na ekfero apopsh. h uparksh tou kalodiou pou lene den mou leei tipota.

ean ontos uphrkse autos o eksoghinos sigoura h autopsia tha egine se kapoio domatio texnologika poio proxorimeno tha elega,opote to kalodio isos na uphrxe kai 2 xronia prin apo thn epishmh kukloforia tou. apo thn allh ,isos na mphke epeithdes oste na broun stirigma autoi pou theloun na thapsoun mia kai kalh thn perifhmh ptosh...

den ksero ,ti na po...

mias kai anaferomaste se video apo ufo,thathela na matho ti gnomh exete gia to poio prosfato videaki pou giristike sto mexiko an thimame,pou dixnei enan iptameno disko pano apo thn polh na kanei tsarka? den akousa pouthena diapsefseis ,giauto rotao!

privateer ,dokimasa na metafraso se gnosto site to keimeno pou mas edoses mias kai uparxoun arketoi oi opoioi den gnorizoun kala thn aglikh glossa ,alla gelasa me thn psixh mou....ama deite pos ksekinaei..!!!

"Η αξιοπρόσεκτη πτυχή της υποτιθέμενης αλλοδαπής συντριβής πιατακιών Roswell ε1ναι ότι σε σχεδόν 50 έτη σταθερών προσπαθειών να νομιμοποιηθε1 το γεγονός από τα αποτελέσματα των οπαδών και των υποτιθέμενων μαρτύρων και των συμμετεχόντων, όχι ένα ενιαιο, απόμερο δυαδικό ψηφιο των απτών, αξιόπιστων στοιχειων έχει βρεθει για να υποστηρ1sξει ένα τέτοιο φανταστικό και σημαντικό γεγονός."

eleos....

[Dreamcatcher]

to videaki apo to mexico pou les den einai toso kainourgio.na fantasteis oti egw to katevasa prin ena peripou xrono otan xekinisa na ftiaxnw to cdaki.pantws apo oti exw akousi einai pseutiko

[damn3]

edo amfisbitoun oti oi amerikanoi exoun patisei sto feggari (paper-moon ean to exete akousta) ;p

[Επισκέπτης]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by damn3:

<strong>edo amfisbitoun oti oi amerikanoi exoun patisei sto feggari (paper-moon ean to exete akousta) ;p</strong><hr></blockquote><p>to xoume to xoume (lol)

panta krata mia pisinh oso kai an kati thewreitai standar