Ekdikhsh!

[pyro]

http://qsnuff.virtualave.net/rp/index.html

[nonickch_]

Ok, prwta gia to atomo pou psaxnei "karfwtiri".<p>a)Poios ekane tin paparia kai afise to trojani na mpei mesa?

Autos 8a einai pou 8a prepei na faei to megalytero

kraksimo, aneta 8a mporouse na einai kati poly

poio asximo (w, nai, exw xasei to FAT mou olo me

ena prog < 50k).<p>b)Shit, happens. Auti einai i logiki tou 8ematos.

DEN mporeis na eisai sigouros oti to IP 8a se odigisei

sto atomo pou to ekane. Ef'oson xrisimopoiei o typas

trojan sto BO styl, simainei oti exei psiloapeira

account gia na mpainei online, (profanos exei kai to

diko sou account gia net). Opote ean steileis mail

sto ISP mallon 8a kapseis kapoion allon pou itan

prin ligo kairo stin 8esi sou.<p>OK, twra as milisoume ligo gia to ti einai ena firewall.

Ta firewalls einai extra protection kai easy mass

port configuration gia ena network. Firewall se 1 PC

mou fainetai psiloili8io giati den exei kamia

sxesi me ton pragmatiko skopo tou software.

Twra, to onoma firewall einai mia apo tis le3eis

pou kanoun "gling" sta autia twn perissoterwn

atomwn sto net.<p>I Norton fysika to katalabe auto kai mpike sto paixnidi

kai ebgale to firewall tis gia Windows (stop... stop...

den mporw allo, 8a PE8ANW apo ta gelia, aahaahah,

firewall gia Windows, aaaaaaaaahahahha) :}<p>Exw dei to norton firewall, den exei KAMIA sxesi me ta

pragmatika firewalls (e3ou kai to development time

tou kai i timi tou -kamia sxesi me ta pragmatika firewalls- )<p>Re paidia, to firewall to mono pou kanei einai na

dinei secondary protection sto access twn ports

sto PC sas. SECONDARY, pws ginetai na bazoun polloi

firewall enw prwta den 3eroun ti einai to port, poioa

port tous einai anoixta, kai poia port 8a kalypsei

to firewall, ti outgoing connections 8a kleisei to

firewall, ti policy exei sta incoming connections

pou einai unallowed (DENY-REJECT), poia einai ta

rules kai me ti seira, kai alles paparies

ateleiwtes, <p>I idea tou firewall einai poly psagmeni kai en

telei axristi ean o xristis einai aplws ougk kai

den endiaferetai gia to ypoloipo security (to firewall

den mporei na stamatisei tin kopelia sou na katebasei

to backdoor kai na to kanei install giati nomize oti

einai kati allo).

Episis, profanws oi perissoteroi pou xrisimopoieitai

to norton firewall den 3erete pws na to settarete

(enoeitai oti KANENAS mesos/low user san emena DEN

mporei na settarei ena firewall).<p>My guess einai oti to norton einai aplws ena aplo

security software me titlo "firewall" kai exei poly

apla settings. To name einai aplws gia promotion.

8ymamai otan eida se kati filous mou

to norton firewall, oi opoioi den i3eran kan na

settaroun ton IE (bliax) pws na min dexetai cookies.

Poio polla problimata apoktisane me ta generalized

settings para glytwsane.<p>Twra, DEN exw dei leptomerws to norton firewall, ean

kanw la8os as me dior8wsei kapoios.<p>To geniko mou symperasma: Osoi eiste entry level

net users, ma8ete kati gia to security tou PC sas

kai afiste pera ta flashy programs pou yposxontai

me enan poly M$ tropo (egw eimai o swtir sou ktl...)

security me ena aplo installation.<p>Security erxetai MONO me ena un-install (twn windows)

hehehheh... bitter but true.<p>Ma8ete ligo re paidia ta genika tou security, apla

pragmata, ti einai ta ports, to netstat, kai kante

syxna pykna ena nestat kai psa3te gia listening

port panw apo to 1024, syni8ws auto einai kati kako.

Ola sxedon ta modern trojans ta pianoun ta antivirus,

opote parte kanena updated virus list gia to antivirus sas.<p>Auta re paidia, eipa oti eixa na pw, exw bare8ei

na akouw apo filous "aaaa, exei firewall, den mporeis

na katebaseis tipota", i "exei firewall, den mporei

na kollisei virus" ktl..<p>P.S: Pros 8eou (poios einai toutos?) min nomizete

oti krazw newbies, aplws, lew to pws blepw ton

kosmo pou pou mpainei net simera. Kai fysika den

perimenw apo neous users na kseroun ti einai to

trojan kai poia einai ta security measures pou

prepei na pairnoun.<p>Auta kai alla apo to basileio tou Aberdeen UK,

wra na kanw ekeini tin ergasia pou exw na kanw stin

COBOL (8alasses emetou e3erxontai tou stomatos mou

ontas ka8izomenos mprosta se mia o8oni gemati

kwdika COBOL)<p>cheers mate!

[Επισκέπτης]

Μάλλον έχεις μπερδέψει τα hardware firewalls με τα software firewalls.<p>Hardware firewalls θα δεις μόνο σε κάποιο computer room, μία εταιρείας, και όχι σε home users.<p>Επειδή τα hardware firewalls είναι αρκετά πιο ακριβά από τα software firewalls, ο home user προτειμάει να αγοράσει κάποιο από τα του δεύτερου είδους.<p>Με κανένα, μα κανένα firewall δεν είναι κάποιος σίγουρος ότι δεν θα πέσει θύμα hacker ή θα κολλήσει ιό.<p>Είναι μία καλή επιλογή, τουλάχιστον, να έχει κάποια Α προστασία-ενημέρωση, για τι μπαίνει και τι βγαίνει από το pc του.<p>Σκεφτείτε το και έτσι:

Έχει βρεθεί κανένας τρόπος που να παρέχει ασφάλεια 100%, ώστε να μην μπορεί να σε κλέψει κανένας; ΟΧΙ

Υπάρχει κανένας που δεν έχει στο σπίτι του μία Α ασφάλεια, ώστε να μην πέσει θύμα κλοπής; ΟΧΙ

[Haros]

File nonickch_ symfwnw apolyta oti POTE den mporoyme na exoyme 100% prostasia... Alla den mporoyme na meinoyme xwris na paroyme toylaxiston ta aparaithta metra asfaleias... Nomizw pws eisai o monos poy leei oti firewall se ena pc eimai psilohlhthio... Dhladh osoi exoyn firewall einai axrista? To firewall den mporei na se kalypsei 100% alla se xrhsh mazi me ena antivirus 'h kai kana allo programma mporei na se swsei... Oso gia to norton to exoyn prwthnei poloi... Mporei na mhn einai to kalytero omws poloi symfwnoyn oti parexei prostasia.... Aaa kai kati teleytaio xerw ti shmainei na se exei xtyphsei sobaros virus den exei symbei se emena alla se filo poy ta dedomena poy toy xathikan htan polytima.. Htan o chernobil an ton exeis akoysta... Katastrefei ap'oti thymame mobo kai gemizei sklhro bad sectors....

[placid]

oxi re kai oti de voithane ta firewalls... voithane kai malista poli.. toulaxiston sou prosferoun prostasia apo kathe lamer pou tha prospathisei na mpei me subsever/netbus/bo2k 'h backdoor, elegxoune poles ports kai to megethos ton packets pou erxontai... an to psaxete tha deite oti ine polles oi prostasies pou parexei ena firewall, ektos an o allos tora sou mpei px an exeis iis anixto me unicode bug klp.. oti pio asfales den ine alla toulaxiston den exeis ton kindino apo to kathe lameri tou irc..

[Tbl]

oti fw kai antiv kai na baleis, an anoigeis ka8e mlkia pou sou stelnoun apo icq, i apo otidipote alo, 8a th pathseis..<p>prosopika fw evala gia na ma8o 5 pramata,kai an to psaxeis ma8eneis..<p>tora basika de pisteyo oti mou polyxriazetai, apla to bazo gia na blepo ti kinitai otan mpeno apo win.<p>oso gia antivirus... no-way ! apodedigmena 8a sernetai to pc mou...<p>oso gia to typa pou peiraze th fili sou, de 8a bgaleis akri, den axizei na to psaxeis kan..<p>mono an einai kanas gnostos, i an 8ymate i fili sou na etrexe kamia orea eikonitsa pou tis estile kapios, kai pios einai aytos..<p>pantos egw 8a proteina na balis+sy ena s7 sti fili sou, exei gelio ! (oups)

[bundy]

ποιο firewall προτεινετε για xp?

to zonealarm pro mallon dimiourgei provlimata

[Haros]

Egw tha soy proteina olo to paketo norton internet security 2002 poy exei mesa kai to norton internet firewall 2002... Ektos an thes na to pareis xexwrista...<p>

[Toufas]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by placid:

<strong>oxi re kai oti de voithane ta firewalls... voithane kai malista poli.. toulaxiston sou prosferoun prostasia apo kathe lamer pou tha prospathisei na mpei me subsever/netbus/bo2k 'h backdoor, elegxoune poles ports kai to megethos ton packets pou erxontai... an to psaxete tha deite oti ine polles oi prostasies pou parexei ena firewall, ektos an o allos tora sou mpei px an exeis iis anixto me unicode bug klp.. oti pio asfales den ine alla toulaxiston den exeis ton kindino apo to kathe lameri tou irc..</strong><hr></blockquote>

an den tin patiseis apo bo kai sinafi tote einai axristo.firewall pote den eixa kai oute tha valo.axristo entelos.ta 2000 kai ta xp antexoune ta panta.iparxei ena nuke (to doom.exe)to opio to eixame se ena net cafe pou doulevoune kati filoi mou kai otan kanane ta mikra fasaria tous to petagame kai to pc mono me restart evlepe ksana diktio..sta 2000 den kanei apolitos tpt.kai eidika apo ton pirina pou exoune den einai epirepis sta nuke...

[Vasilius]

Pes sthn filh sou na to paiksei k kala endiaferomenh gia ton typa...

Ton fwnazei gia na vgoune...

Erxete apo to spiti ths...

Esy k pente filarakia mpoukarete mesa...

*Akolouthoun skhnes vias oi opoies einai kalo na mhn parakolouthithoun apo atoma me provlimata ygeias...*

Mono koita na mhn....agria gia na mporesei na fygei k to paidi...

Ti dns reverse k prasina aloga mou les otan tha prepei na se sto spiti ths kopelias k na perimeneis pote tha tou kavlwsei na kanei thn plaka tou?

Ase pou tha nai kana malakismeno 15-18 ante flwros k 19...dhladh mia bounia ton exeis...

Elpizw na mepiases...

K na se sigouros oti tha rthei afou mono to pouli tou paizei k tha psofaei gia gomenes...

To skiniko mporei na gyristei k allou...

Koita kanena apta fylarakia sou na xei kamia kamera wste na to grapseis k kane to upload kapou gia na doume k meis ta plana:)

[Haros]

LOL!! Poly swstos file Vasillius... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />