Divx 3.11alpha VS Divx 4.12

[everwicked]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SkYwaLkGR:

<strong>Kalhmera se olous <p>Katarxhn 8elo na eyxaristhsw olous osous diavasan h ekanan post mexri shmera se ayto to topic.8a h8ela katarxhn na rwthsw ta myala tou divx mia erwthsoula : H 4 epiloges ston divx 4.12 1-pass,1pass quality based,2pass... poies einai oi diafores tous.Poia einai h kalyterh;<p>Pros everwicked : File ever alh8eia me poia engine kanei encoding to gordian knot?? To ksero oti den poly aksizei to flaskmpeg alla toulaxiston einai arketa eykolo den nomizeis?</strong><hr></blockquote><p>As xekiniso me to Gordian Knot. To Gordian Knot den einai tipota allo para ena front-end. Diladi auto pou kanei to Gknot einai na sou dinei ena graphical interface pou einai eukolo sti xrisi kai na grafei olo ta scriptakia gia sena, vlepe Avisynth. Kati san GUI allios.<p>Oso gia to DivX 4:

Otan kaneis 1-pass, to codec apla kanei encode kathe frame me to bitrate pou tou orises, me ena poli mikro variation analoga me to size/complexity tou frame.<p>Sto 1-pass quality based, rithimizei mono tou ta settings oste na pareis to pososto tis poiotitas tou arxikou video pou exei orisei. Nomizo, xoris na eimai sigouros oti sto 100% vazei ta quantizers 2-2.<p>To 2-pass einai kapos pio complicated. Sto 2-pass,first pass, pernei to video kai analoga me to bitrate pou tou exeis dosei, paei kai grafei to size kai to complexity/motion tou kathe frame. Sto 2-pass, 2nd pass analoga me to bitrate pou exeis dosei pali, moirazei ta quantizers se kathe frame oste to teliko arxeio na exei average bitrate idio me auto pou edoses.<p>Any better?

[everwicked]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by cinefreak66:

<strong>Εγώ πάντως θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω αν έχει αλλάξει κανείς τις παραμέτρους rate control averaging period, rate control reaction period,rate control down/up reaction...kai αν ναι τι τιμές βάζει (εξαρτάται βέβαια και από την ταινία)Π.χ αν βάλω μεγαλύτερες τιμές στο rate control reaction period θα έχω πολύ καλύτερο αποτέλεσμα σε ταινία με πολλές high motion σκηνές;</strong><hr></blockquote><p>

Iparxei auth h selida me tis episimes exigiseis: http://www.divx.com/support/guides/divx4_encode.php?cid=1&gid=1<p>To rate control avg period einai to poso to codec koitao piso stin tainia oste na petixei to bitrate pou tou orises. Douleuei kalitera me megala values. 200,000 h 400,000 einai kala.<p>To reaction period einai to poso grigora antidraei to codec se motion changes. Setting of 50 is ok.<p>To Up/Down einai to poso diakimansi exeis. Den xero akrivos leptomereis alla setting of 5 works quite good.

[Dimmu_Borgir]

Filarako everwicked mou fainetai oti thn exeis dei poly

kserolas kai mou spas ta neura.An exeis na peis kati

na to les xwris na kritikareis tou allous.<p>Sxetika me to DivX kai sugkekrimena sto GKnot to mono

pou aksizei se auto einai to stats editor.Exw dei

merika progs pou kanoun log editing gia DivX4 alla den

ta exw xrhsimopoihsei.

Esy exeis kanei pote log editing sto DivX4?

Giati egw proswpika kanw DivX me to 3.11 mono kai mono

epeidh mporeis na diamorfwseis to stats pou kanei

to nundub sto prwto perasma.<p>Kai gi' auto 8ewrw to encoding me 3.11 kalutero.OK?

Kai nomizw oti einai xazo na xrhsimopoiei kaneis

to GKnot mono gia crop kai resize!!<p>Episeis oles oi encoding methods gia DivX4 ston tropo

leitourgias einai idies!Kai 1o kai 2o perasma ginetai

sxedon me ton idio tropo, opoiodhpote prog kai an xrhsimopoieiseis!<p>------------------------

Dimmu Borgir

[SpY]

Paidia pisteuw na kathomaste na malwnoume den vgainei se tipota.Prwswpika egw den prokeite na pw se kanenan tipota na xrisimopeiei 3.11 i 4.xx provlima tou.Eimaste poloi edw pou kanoume divx kai prospathoume me ligotero xrono na exome kaliteri poitita. Prwsopika egw kanw Divx me ton 4.02 kai den eimai poli euxaristimenos me tin poiotita.Evala twra 4.11 kai xrisimopoiw Xmpeg4.2 mporei kapoios an exei tin kalwsini na grapsei tis rithmiseis giato Xmpeg4.02 me 4.11 i 4.12 gia tin kaliteri dynati poitita eikonas.Pistew oti auto endiaferei polous.

[everwicked]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dimmu_Borgir:

<strong>Filarako everwicked mou fainetai oti thn exeis dei poly

kserolas kai mou spas ta neura.An exeis na peis kati

na to les xwris na kritikareis tou allous.<p>Sxetika me to DivX kai sugkekrimena sto GKnot to mono

pou aksizei se auto einai to stats editor.Exw dei

merika progs pou kanoun log editing gia DivX4 alla den

ta exw xrhsimopoihsei.

Esy exeis kanei pote log editing sto DivX4?

Giati egw proswpika kanw DivX me to 3.11 mono kai mono

epeidh mporeis na diamorfwseis to stats pou kanei

to nundub sto prwto perasma.<p>Kai gi' auto 8ewrw to encoding me 3.11 kalutero.OK?

Kai nomizw oti einai xazo na xrhsimopoiei kaneis

to GKnot mono gia crop kai resize!!<p>Episeis oles oi encoding methods gia DivX4 ston tropo

leitourgias einai idies!Kai 1o kai 2o perasma ginetai

sxedon me ton idio tropo, opoiodhpote prog kai an xrhsimopoieiseis!<p>------------------------

Dimmu Borgir </strong><hr></blockquote><p>Den kritikara kanenan. Apla na lete pragmata pou stekoun. Xerolas den eimai alla sigoura exo kanei polles perisoteres dokimes apo oses exoune kanei oi perisoteroi edo mesa, isos otan valo ena mad smiley sto signature mou na gino ki ego bad or whatever.<p>Oson afora to Gknot einai apla enas pio eukolos tropos apo to na grafeis scriptakia sinexeia monos sou, eno mporei na ta kanei auto.<p>Afou den exeis kanei log editing se divx 4 kai den xereis an exo kanei ego, giati vgeneis kai les pragmata ston aera?

Oxi proto kai deutero perasma den ginetai me ola ta programata me ton idio tropo. Isos an diavazes ton guide mou na mathaines kana dio pragmatakia giati exeis minei ligo piso. Min erxesai kai mas prizeis me ton Nandub kai to SBC giati mporoume na kanoume ta idia kai kalitera me to DivX 4.<p>Spy, an thes all-in-one solution san to Flask xrisimopoihse to Gordian Knot einai poli pio kalo kai euxristo. Koita to guide stou doom9

[everwicked]

An den kano lathos (please correct me if i am wrong) ta test pou exeis-eixes kanei itan me kapoia palioteri ekdosi tou 4.12 kai profanos den xrisimopoihseis log file editing mias kai den ipirxe tetoia epilogh tote.<p>Kala ta leo?

[crAss]

Me 4.12 exo doulepsei. Log editing oxi den exo kanei. Tha to dokimaso omos.. <p>crAss

[crAss]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by everwicked:

<strong><p>Min erxesai kai mas prizeis me ton Nandub kai to SBC giati mporoume na kanoume ta idia kai kalitera me to DivX 4.

</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Edo diafono katheta, toulaxiston me ta test pou exo kanei ego. To nandub gia emena dinei akoma kalliteri poiotita se meiomeno apothikeutiko apo opoiadipote alli lisi. To oti einai xronovora i diadikasia einai. Kamia antirisi. Opote exeis 2 pragmata na kaneis (prosopika milao). I na anexteis auti tin parapano ora i na auxiseis ton apothikeutiko xoro toso oste oi diafores poiotitas na einai toso mikres pou na theorithoun amelitees. To exo xanapei (milontas prosopika meta apo polles dokimes) oti gia emena i poiotita pou pairno me avirevolution se toulaxiston 1400MB apothikeutiko xoro me divx 3.11alpha se sinartisi me ton elaxisto xrono pou mou pairnei auti i diadikasia einai i kalliteri lisi. Otan thelo na katevo sta epipeda tou enos cd omos einai monodromos i xrisi tou nandub.<p>crAss

[everwicked]

Em! Try kai pesmou....<p>Koitaxe sti selida mou gia na pareis mia idea...

[Dimmu_Borgir]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by crAss:

<strong><p>Edo diafono katheta, toulaxiston me ta test pou exo kanei ego. To nandub gia emena dinei akoma kalliteri poiotita se meiomeno apothikeutiko apo opoiadipote alli lisi. To oti einai xronovora i diadikasia einai. Kamia antirisi. Opote exeis 2 pragmata na kaneis (prosopika milao). I na anexteis auti tin parapano ora i na auxiseis ton apothikeutiko xoro toso oste oi diafores poiotitas na einai toso mikres pou na theorithoun amelitees. To exo xanapei (milontas prosopika meta apo polles dokimes) oti gia emena i poiotita pou pairno me avirevolution se toulaxiston 1400MB apothikeutiko xoro me divx 3.11alpha se sinartisi me ton elaxisto xrono pou mou pairnei auti i diadikasia einai i kalliteri lisi. Otan thelo na katevo sta epipeda tou enos cd omos einai monodromos i xrisi tou nandub.<p>crAss</strong><hr></blockquote><p>File eisai prwtos...<p>--------------------------

Dimmu Borgir

[crAss]

Epaixa kai me log editing sto divx 4.12

Simperasma 1 thelei poli ora, isos ligoteri apo to nandub (an den petixeis me tin proti ta settings sto nandub).

Simperasma 2 i poiotita einai poli kali. Omos den pavei na einai elafra xeiroteri apo to nandub.

Pou kataligo? An einai na fao tin ora pou tha mou parei na kano dual pass divx4.12 me log editing, den tha mou fanei xeirotero na fao ligi akoma parapano gia na kerdiso auti ti ligo kaliteri poiotita tou nandub. Auto einai prosopiki apopsi. Kai den prepei na xexname pos i ekmathisi tou nandub sto na vriskeis ta kallitera settings se mia tainia den einai eukoli. Ekei pou thelo na katalixo einai oti kapoios pou xekinaei tha exei amesa kallitera apotelesmata me to divx4.12 me log editing. Omos an to psaxeis to nandub kai tou afieroseis xrono tha sou dosei kata apoliti timi to kalitero apotelesma pou mporeis na pareis simera.<p>Pantos sinexizo na ipostirizo tin apopsi mou gia 2 cd opou i poiotita einai kaliteri kai o xronos ligoteros. (Mia tainia pou exei ginei teleia me nandub se 1 cd mporei na deixnei xeirotera apo mia alli pou egine me ena aplo pass(divx3.11) se ipsilotero bitrate me stoxo ta 2 cd, alla kai auto einai ligo sxetiko) <p>crAss<p>PS. Ta test ta ekana me trailer apo tainies giati allios tha ithela 1-2 mines kai exoume kai exetastiki<p>[ 20-01-2002: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: crAss ]</p>

[everwicked]

Em an ekanes dokimes me trailers, pos na deis to maximum result.<p>Xoris na xreiastei na kaneis 1-2 mines, pare mia tainia pou exeis idi se nandub kai kantin se divx 4 me divx4log....<p>Afto pou den mou aresei einai oti eno tha pernagate ateleiotes ores sto nandub, when it comes to divx4, apla kanete mia dokimi kai oti vgei....

[crAss]

Mi to vlepeis esti...Otan fagame ores me to nandub itan monodromos, eixe ginei thrilos kai to perimename pos kai pos (ego stin arxi nomiza pos itan moufa i oli doulia, alla ta divx pou katevaza apo to diktio me to logotipo tou itan ta kalitera). AN itheles tote kalliteri poiotita pigenes ekei. Gia paradeigma me fairuse den asxolithika pote.

Pantos kai me ta trailer kaneis kali doulia. Kai to nandub me trailer to ematha kata vasi. Ftiaxneis to trailer xoris kanena kolpo me bitrate psilo px 3-3500 kai meta prospatheis na petixeis to idio oso ginetai apotelesma me px to 1/3 tou ogou. Otan deis oti arxizeis kai pianeis to noima kai katalavaineis ti sou ginete proxoras stin proti tainia.

Pantos tha ftiaxo kai olokliri tainia. Otan xalarosoun ta pragmata apo tin exetastiki.

Ta simperasmata mou pantos den nomizo na allaxoun.

Gia kapoio newbe pragmatika divx4 dual pass me log editing einai kati efikto poli eukola, kai i poiotita pou tha parei einai poli kali. An diavaseis ta sxolia mou kai pio pano ekei pou milao gia ton eauto mou to leo kai ta sxolia ta genika pistevo oti einai antikeimenika, anaferontas ta sin kai ta plin. I epilogi pantos einai teliki apofasi tou kathenos. Den prospathoume na peisoume, alla na moirastoume empeiries kai na dieukolinoume...<p>crAss

[everwicked]

Den tha po tpt. Ena link mono...<p>http://divx4log.narod.ru<p>Frontise o Theos giati eide poli ivri edo mesa

<p>Elpizo merikoi merikoi na mporoun na doulepsoun tin kainourgia ekdosi. Den leo gia ton crass

[crAss]

Everwicked den einai ivri oute eimaste kollimenoi (milao gia ton eauto mou). Nomizeis pos den theloume oloi pio grigoro kai pio poiotiko encode, i mipos nomizeis oti den einai oreo na exeis ena codec pou einai kathola nomimo (iparxoun polles efarmoges pou to 3.11 den to xrisimopoioume mono kai mono gia auto). Tha dokimazoume profanos kathe ti neo pou vgainei, tha to krinoume kai tha to xrisimopoioume kata peristasi. Sigoura den einai oreo na xrisimopoieis ena codec sxedon 3 eton. <p>A, kati akoma. Ekana merika akoma testakia me to mpeg2avi mazi me to 4.12, dual pass kai log editing. Den katafera na vro poiotikes diafores apo ti methodo pou proteineis esi (to log editing egine ti mia fora me akrivos ton tropo pou proteineis), eno tautoxrona i diadikasia itan elafra pio grigori.<p>crAss