20/11/07 AMD Phenom

[Thresh]

imo oi times den einai o kyriws paragontas...autos einai na tous doume sthn agora...giati an einai na "kykloforhsoun" opws oi Barcelona based Opteron (dld 2+ mhnes meta thn release date tous) xese mesa polyxroni...

[gdp77]

Εντάξει. Απλά τα πράγματα, με τις τιμές της Oktabit δε θα πωληθεί ούτε κομμάτι.

[kakarame]

kalispera

vlepo oti to zeroone tha tous exi apo 30/11/07 me ton 9500 na exi 216 europoula

http://www.zero1.gr/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=39867

 

pote tha erthoun oi nees mitrikes am2+

[ashton]

@ nikosl

το site της Oktabit είναι χονδρικής. Τα χονδρικής είναι χαμηλότερα από τα λιανικής. Οι χονδρικές που έχουν σήμερα (με μη διαθέσιμα) είναι πάνω από αυτά που υπολογίζεις με τις τιμές Βαρσοβίας + φπα.

[nikosl]

ashton δεν λέω κάτι διαφορετικο...

απο περιέργεια πόσο τους καπέλωσαν?

40ε το κομμάτι?

[raven3x7]

kalispera

vlepo oti to zeroone tha tous exi apo 30/11/07 me ton 9500 na exi 216 europoula

http://www.zero1.gr/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=39867

 

pote tha erthoun oi nees mitrikes am2+

To plaisio exei hdh th Asus M3A32 deluxe wifi ala mallon eini h pio akribh mtrikh pou tha bgei.

[ashton]

@nikosl

κάνα 10ρικο παραπάνω χωρίς το ΦΠΑ.

Που σημαίνει τουλάχιστον άλλα 20 ευρώ (χωρίς ΦΠΑ) για πώληση λιανικής.

[cosmosfera]

δειτε εδω διαφορα στην αρχιτεκτονικη των τετραπυρηνων phenom απο τους coreduo(εδω βεβαια εχουμε τους opteron-xeon σε διαταξη server αντιστοιχα) για να μη μενουμε μονο στα ρολογια.αυτη την αρχιτεκτονικη θα εφαρμοσει η intel για πρωτη φορα με τους νεχαλεμ τελος 2008 που θα τους βγαλει περιπου

[tmjuju]

Gevika, ws twra dev fevete h AMD va mporei va epavel8ei me ayth th gevia epe3ergastwv....

Lupame! Pragmatika!

Spiti exw PC apo tis perissoteres tiw x86-platofms pou exouv bgei sthv agora apo thv epoxh tou 486...

To prosopiko mou PC auth thv epoxh eivai me 5600x2. Elega va perimevw tous Phenom gia upgrade... alla etsi opos paei me blepw gia intel.

 

Tespa, as doume ti 8a givei mexri Flebarh... giati mexri Gevarh h AMD 8aumata dev mporei va kavei.

 

Isa isa pou dev mporei va bgalei oute kav tov phenom2.4 ! Tov opoio tov eixe eidh steilei se OEMs kai avtiprosopous kai tous mazebei pali piso me problhma.

[Mars_]

Βγηκε και review στο AnandTech ,γενικα δεν προκειτε για κακους επεξεργαστες απλα δεν ειναι αρκετα ισχυροι για να χτυπισουν τον ανταγωνισμο ,γνωμη μου ειναι οτι το παιχνιδι θα βασιστει στις τιμες λιανικης.

Αν βαλουμε μεσα και τον παραγοντα overclocking (Penryn 4+ GHz on air το εχουμε πει πολλακις) η πλαστιγγα γερνει ακομα περισσοτερο υπερ της Intel.

[tmjuju]

po po zhmia!

Mhv ta deite.... eivai klafta Xaralampe:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the_spider_weaves_its_web/page25.html

 

To movo pou exei meivei eivai o epilogos (xamilh timh):

 

We succeeded in overclocking our engineering sample to 3.00 GHz with only air cooling. Thus it seems feasible that we may soon see Phenom processors running at these higher clock speeds in stores - possibly as an FX version. Indeed we hear that AMD is planning to introduce a Phenom Black Edition this year that will have an open multiplier - which should enable users to hit the 3+ GHz we saw during our tests. The Black Edition will be a 2.3 GHz or 2.4 GHz part. Also, a Phenom 9900 model will be introduced in Q1/2008 at 2.6 GHz, costing less than $350, with the 9700 we tested coming in below $300 (Euro prices are not yet available to us).

 

We were happy to see AMD present a working, functional and stable alternative to the many complicated and board-specific overclocking utilities . AMD's OverDrive allows the user to monitor the CPU and change its frequency as well as many other parameters such as voltages and bus speeds on-the-fly.

 

AMD seems to have done its homework when the company set the price for its Phenom processors. The Phenom 9600 is about 13.5% slower than Intel's Q6600 in our benchmarks. On the other hand, its price is also 13.6% lower than that of its direct competitor. Thus, the two products offer practically the same performance for your money.

 

The advantages of the Spider platform are that you won't need to buy a new board for future processors , that you can upgrade it to use up to four graphics cards and that the platform is future proof thanks to its support for PCIe 2.0.

 

Looking into the future with the Spider platform, AMD seems to be the less expensive than Intel, since the chip giant has already announced that its current high-end platform X38 will be incompatible to the next generation of high-end CPUs at the beginning of next year. In the end, if you're looking to make the most of a long-term investment, AMD is without a doubt the better platform choice.

 

 

EDIT: Eipa va balw kai tov epilogo-epitafeio tou Anand:

Here's what really frightens us: the way AMD has priced Phenom leaves Intel with a great opportunity to increase prices with Penryn without losing the leadership position. Intel could very well introduce the Core 2 Quad Q9300 (2.33GHz) at $269 and still remain quite competitive with Phenom, moving the Q9450 into more expensive waters. Intel has't announced what it's doing with Penryn pricing in Q1, but our fear is that a weak showing from Phenom could result in an upward trend in processor prices. And this is exactly why we needed AMD to be more competitive with Phenom.

 

It's tough to believe that what we're looking at here is a farewell to the K8. When AMD first released the Athlon 64, its performance was absolutely mind blowing. It kept us from recommending Intel processors for at least 3 years; Phenom's arrival, however, is far more somber. Phenom has a difficult job to do, it needs to keep AMD afloat for the next year. Phenom is much like the solemn relative, visiting during a time of great sorrow within the family; let's hope for AMD's sake that it can lift spirits in the New Year.

[Thresh]

protimw ta reviews tou anandtech...oso na nai tou tomshardware tou exei vgei to onoma arketes fores paliotera gia thn a3iopistia tou eidika sto 8ema ths Intel...

 

parola auta pisteuw oti ligo poly ola ta reviews pou 8a vgoun 8a lene to idio...oti oi Phenom einai pio argoi apo tous Core 2 Quad oi opoioi einai pio argoi apo tous Penryn pou 8a vgoun ton Genarh...

 

dyskola ta pragmata gia thn AMD...prepei na ri3ei tis times akoma perissotero (apo Genarh lene) wste na mporei antagwnistei thn Intel h na vgalei CPUs pou na rixnoun toulaxiston 200mhz panw apo tous CPUs ths Intel...

 

epishs apo oti diavasa to o/c den einai kai to dynatotero xarti twn Phenom...pikra

[Razor333]

Χαλια επιδοσεις στα παιχνιδια, ειναι συνηθως η καταδικη καποιου επεξεργαστη ή και ολοκληρης σειρας. Δεδομενο οτι και για workstation δεν κανουν, μιας και υπαρχουν οι καλυτεροι C2Q, αλλα και οι opteron σε λογικες τιμες, δεν βλεπω και πολυ μελλον σε αυτην την σειρα.

 

Μπορει καποιος με εναν ταπεινο Ε4400 και O/C να εχει καλυτερες επιδοσεις στα παιχνιδια...

[gdp77]

Η AMD βρίσκεται σε αδιέξοδο. Λάθη και παραλείψεις του παρελθόντος οδήγησαν σε αυτή την τραγική κατάσταση για την ίδια την εταιρεία, αλλά κυρίως για τους καταναλωτές.

 

Ακόμα και αν τιμολογηθούν 20-30% φθηνότερα (αλλιώς δε βλέπω να πουλάνε) από τις προτεινόμενες τιμές, η εταιρεία δε θα έχει κέρδος και έτσι δε βγαίνει από το τέλμα... Κρίμα.

[Thresh]

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/18/amd-delays-phenom-ghz-due-tlb

 

AMD delays Phenom 2.4 GHz due to TLB errata

 

kala ta pane...