ΚΑΗΚΕ Ο ATHLONXP 1800+ ΣΕ ASUS A7V333 MOBO..

[madrules]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stratos1:

<strong>Paidia,kaka ta psemata.Oloi exoume perasei apo Amd,alla molis orimazeis katakigeis sto Intel. Einai opos xekinas me ena Punto Gt kai kataligeis telika sti Bmw, xerontas oti den tha paei pote oso to punto,xerontas oti dineis parapano lefta gia kati pio argo, alla xexnas ta synergeia,tis thermokrasies to kalokairi,kai ti fasaria mias special exatmisis....(nomizo oti o parallilismos einai oti prepei) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ti paei na pei ayto?

Asxeto alla exw punto gt 5 xronia exw kanei pano apo 100000xlm tou aexo allaksei ta fota sta skasimata idiaitera stis arxes kai synergio exw paei mono gia ta service, den mou exei parousiasei kanena myxaniko h hlektriko provlima, oute thermokrasies oute kamia alli m@l@ki@ ola leitourgoun roloi.

Eksatmisi bazeis ama theleis kai se oti amaksi theleis kai me hxo xontro h bari h dynato kai genika opos ton theleis ktl, ti paei na pei oti an exeis punto exeis eksatmisi kai fasaria? diladi ama eisai poromenos me ta kara kai exeis bmw kai exeis kai ekei eksatmisi tote poia h diafora?

Mhn leme oti theloume......

 

KAi epanerxomai stous epeksergastes ti paei na pei otan orimaseis pas se intel pali????

Eixa Intel palia Pentium, Pentium II, Celeron kai meta os ekei meta pira Athlon kai os tora exo meinei stous Athlon.

Twra exw enan Athlon XP 1700+ pou kanoniki taxytita einai 1467MHz diladi gia mena prepei na sygrkinetai me p4 @1.4Ghz enw rixnei sto kefali ston p4 @1.8Ghz pou ama deis tis times tote kalytera na pas pros syggrou meria na mazepseis kana fragko gia na pareis ton Intel.

Pame ston allo tomes tis fasarias, Exw volcano 7+ sto low kai athorybous fans me rouleman sto case pou doulevo sta 7v, apotelesma pliri ysixia les kai douleva opos palia me ton celeron, mono to trofodotiko akougetai kai ayto elaxista.

Opote pou einai h fasaria pou kanoun oi AMD?????

 

Allos tomeas oi thermokrasies, exw full load mexri 60 bathmous me 32 room temp kai o kollitos mou exei full load 68 bathmous me p4 @1.8 ara pali mia xara eimaste.

 

Na po kai kati allo giati fagonontai merikoi oti oi AMD einai pio zestoi,xreiazontai megalytera kai akrivotera cooler ktl ktl Giati kaneis den milaei otan pame ston tomea twn kartwn grafikwn?? Giati arage oi gf3, gf4 exoun megalitera cooler apo tis ati? giati xreiazontai psyktres stis mnimes? giati katanalonoun perisotero energia (watt)? Giati den leei kanenas tipota gia ayta kai oloi lene gf kai gf kai gf kai thavoune tis ati? (min mou peite tipota gia drivers epeidi exei proxorisei poly h ati se ayton ton tomea)

 

Ola ayta entelos filika gia apofygi pareksigiseon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

[Dimmu_Borgir]

Entaksei re paidia, ti na poume? Ta exoume pei toses fores, den prokeitai na bgei akrh. Opoioi 8eloun Intel as paroun Intel kai osoi 8eloun AMD as paroun AMD. Autoi pou kseroun 5 pragmata kseroun kai ti CPU na paroun <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

[spybol]

egw exw na prosthesw ta exhs:

1) i cpu katharizei teleia me katharistikh benzinh me ena xarti kouzinas.. ginetai teleia den pathenei tipota..

 

2)H intel panta htan kalh etaireia.omws oloi perasame apo amd giati o athlon pragmatika xeskizei.NAI ayth tin stigmh i agora enos p4 gia mena einai kalyterh epilogh.Omws ayto symbainei TWRA kai oxi mexri prin apoi 2 mhnes gia 2 logous:

 

a) Giati prin 2 mines bghke o northwood pou anebainei poly

Giati den zestenetai toso..

 

OMWS ayta symbainoun mono me ton northwood.Giati oi palioi p4 zematane! omws den to pernoun prefa polloi giati i cpu pathenei ysterhsh rixnei tin taxythta ths kai den kollaei.Ara to problhma thermokrasias twra to elyse i intel twra to lynei kai i amd me tos tberd 9me elattwma omws oti den anebainoun toso).

H platforma amd eiani exairetikh kai mono oi teleytaioi p4 tarazoun ta nera.ta megala bug tis amd gia mena einai mono ta chipset tis via pou kamia fora moularwnoun kai to packaging pou spaei eykola sxetika.

 

Xreiastike loipon tossos kairos gia na ginei o p4 antagwnistikos kai xehasame oloi giati phrame amd?ta skasame xontra merikoi gia na paroume ayth tin taxythta, oi amd den shmainoun oti einai kai toso fthinoteroi.apla perisy htan makran kalyteroi.

 

etsi den thelw na akouw gia bmw kai punto, apla ayth i partida tis intel tis ekatse..Diladi an bgei o hammer kai einai super teleios, na min ton parw giati tha einai pali pounto enw i intel tha einai i bmw?? Btw exw 4 mhxanakia ta 3 me intel kai to 1 me amd epomenws mono kollhmenos den eimai me tin etairia.

[Stratos1]

symfono apolyta oti mono oi NW lene,an kai prin eixa P4 sta 1,6@2,0 o opoios af enos douleve stable sta 2g, af eterou etrexe sti all day me 55 vathmous. Gia na min po oti kai as min evazes sosta tin psiktra....den kaigetai!! Episis symfono apolyta oti kairos itan na yparxei kai antagonismos stin intel mias pou oloi xeroume pou kataligoun ta monopolia... alla kai min xexname oti kai i amd prin apo ligo kairo me tous t-bird zematage. Kai oxi mono afto alla den ypirxan kai athoriva anemistirakia...oute volcano 7+ se xamiles skales,oute tipota. Ego imouna mesa stous protous pou estisan dual athlon,alla den antexa ti fasaria,koimomouna sto dipla domatio kai an to eixa anoixto.... Pantos kataligo oti afti ti stigmi i kalyteri agora se oles tis sxeseis einai o p4 1,6. Einai fthinos,orimos kai anevainei trella!

[@_zerocool]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anyways kai emena den 8a mou pa8aine tipota to PC an den to skaliza sunexeia, an to afhna me to cooleraki pou eixa ola 8a htan mia xara, alla ti na kano, den mporo na ka8omai na vlepo ena swro pragmata sto net kai na mhn ta dokimazo!!!!

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ax ta idia pa8ainw kai egw. Blepw kati mods, kati o/c kati trella kai sou erxetai na ta dokimaseis. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

 

Den xreiazetai omws na anoiksoume kai alloi diamaxoi metaksy AMD kai Intel. O ka8enas as parei oti goustarei. Dika tou lefta einai ta kanei oti 8elei!Den 8a ka8hsw na skasw epeidh to filaraki phre Intel kai oxi AMD h to antistrofw.

Den mou dinei kamia apo tis duo etairies lefta gia na proo8hsw ta CPU's ths.

 

PS: An htan na ftiaksw kainourgio PC 8a ebaza eponymes mnhmes kai P4.

Nai to dhlwnw kai egw eimai blakas.8a parw ena CPU epeidh mporw na to yperxronisw.

 

Blakes of the world unite eee? <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

o/c of the world unite. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

[kavaliotis]

Paidia as mou apanthsei kapoios sto post pou ekana kai afhste pali tis diamaxes AMD-INTEL, den bgazoun pou8ena.. Parakato einai auto pou rotao..

 

"Loipon paides proekupse neo provlima, authn thn fora me ton Duron.. Sas grafo apo to laptop mou.. O Duron apo palia eixe provlimata kai o core tou einai stis akres ligo "fagomenos".. Telos panton tora pou mou kahke o XP ton evala sto mobo kai doulepse kala, alla olo ebgaze allh timh san default taxuthta..Einai 700arhs..Thn mia ebgaze 800, thn allh 850, thn allh 900, thn allh 1000 kai epaize olo se mia apo autes tis times..Ton eixa ksekleidosei me to kolpo me to molubi..Anyways eixe gemisei sxedon olos me Arctic Silver (kai ta L bridges ktl)..X8es ton ekleisa kai den ksananoikse..Ebgala to mobo ekso, ebgala psuxtres ktl, ton ka8arisa me oinopneuma olon kai ton ksanaevala, postare sto BIOS (me epilogh default ta 1000Mhz) kai ekana kati ru8miseis sto BIOS kai ekana save&exit..Paei na kanei restart, tipota, anavoun ola alla h o8onh den anabei..Ton ksanabgazo, ton ka8arisa, tipota...Telos panton egine polles fores auto telika postare mia fora kai mphke sto bios, ekana ru8miseis kai ksekinhse kanonika (den ton eixa overclock) kai mphke sta windows alla kollhse ekei...Ton kano reset kai den ksananapse apo tote...Apo oti katalavaino, mallon kati mplokarei ksero go..H CPU mallon ftaiei sigoura kai oxi kati allo.. San na braxukuklwnei..Thn evgala thn ka8arisa kala kai xrhsimopoihsa kai sbhstra gia na ka8ariso to kafe pragma alla pali tipota..

 

Ti mporei na paizei? Mhpos telika 8a prepei na agoraso CPU? Ta 4 maurakia pou htan pano sthn CPU (ekeina pou ka8etai pano h psuktra) exoun fygei..Alla sto bios otan anoikse to PC mia fora eixe gia 4-5 lepta 8ermokrasia 45 ba8mous (35-37 kanonikous logo asus mobo) opote einai polu kala kai ka8otane kala pano sthn CPU h psuktra (to elenksa).. Ti mporei na phgainei straba? Doste mia boh8eia giati exo kataspastei, den exo PC na doulepso re gamoto"

[@_zerocool]

to mono pou sou apomenei na kaneis einai na pareis th CPU kai na thn baleis se ena sustyma pou sigoura douleuei. Etsi an kanei ta idia tote 8a ftaei h CPU alla an den kanei ta idia kai doulepsei swsta tote mallon 8a exeis kapio provlima sto systhma sou.

Alla mallon 8a exei ginei to prwto. H CPU tapaikse. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

[TonyMontana]

i thermokrasia twn P4 den exei na kanei me tin epifaneia tou chip - auto paizei rolo sto pws "paleuei" me tin thermokrasia i psuktra giauto paliotera se reviews psuktrwn xrisimopoiousan duron cpus giati eixan mikro die kai zorizan tin psiktra...i thermokrasia einai thema arxitektonikis tou cpu kai tis manufacturing process (0.13μ gia tous P4)...

 

kaneis den eipe oti oi P4 einai pio grigoroi clock pros clock me tous AXP - sigoura enas AXP sta 1400MHz einai pio grigoros apo ena P4 sta 1400 afou kanoun perisotera operation per cycle/ clock - otan omws pareis enan P4 1600MHz kai tou kaneis 1200MHz overclock sta 2.8 kai exeis 35C sto kouti kai 60C sto cpu se full load me mono thoruvo auton tis kartas grafikwn tote exeis kai perisoteri taxutita apo kathe athlon tis agoras kai mporeis na koimitheis aneta dipla sto kouti sou tin wra pou auto kanei divx me 30+ fps.

 

telos den einai tuxaio pou oi overclockers stin agglia - mia xwra pliris se hardware gia overclocking xronia mprosta aptin ellada - to exoun riksei stous P4 poulwntas tou athlon xp pou exoun...

[kavaliotis]

Pros timiman:

 

File mou 8umasai pou mou eleges gia to BIOS oti exei epilogh gia to se poia 8ermokrasia na doulepsei to C.O.P.? Loipon den thn brhka thn epilogh auth pou mou eipes..Eisai sigouros oti einai sto 1007 BIOS?

[Επισκέπτης]

Ναι ρε kavalioti, αφού πήγα σπίτι μου το είδα στο BIOS και αμέσως μπήκα Online για να postάρω εδώ και να σου δείξω πού αρκιβώς είναι. Έχεις σίγουρα την 1007 Final ή κάποια beta του 1007 (κοίταξε στην αρχή που κάνει boot, κοντά στην γραμμή που λέει ποιον επεξεργαστή βρήκε)

Πάντως παίζει να μην υποστηρίζετε αυτή η λειτουργία με Duron επεξεργαστή.

Τσέκαρε και για το νέο beta BIOS που έβγαλε χθες η Asus για το A7V333 (1008-001)

( Asus A7V333 BIOS FTP Page )

 

<small>[ 03-07-2002, 09:59: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: timiman ]</small>

[kavaliotis]

Sigoura exo thn 1007 final alla opos les kai esu isos epeidh den prolaba na tsekaro meta to post sou (giati eixe hdh kaei o AthlonXP) to Power, isos me ton Duron pou to dokimasa na mhn fainetai h epilogh sto BIOS afou etsi ki allios to COP doulevei mono me tous XP..Anyways, beta bioses duskola bazo giati den 8elo na exo alla paratragouda! Me to A7V pou eixa palia ellaza bioses ka8e bdomada pou leei o logos!

[panxris]

Ρε παιδια απαραδεκτος ο τσακωμος που γινεται.Τα εχουμε πει 100 φορες οτι θελει ας παρει ο καθενας αρκει να δουλευει απροβληματιστα.Δεν χρειαζεται να γινεται καμμια συγκριση.Βλεπει ποσα λεφτα εχει, ποσες γνωσεις εχει (αυτο δε γινεται σωστα απο τον καθενα),και τι ορεξη για ενασχοληση και αγοραζει.Να πω οτι γινοταν διαγωνισμος θα το καταλαβαινα.Πχ να λεγατε ποσο σκορ βγαζουμε στο Sisoft Sandra και να αρχιζατε ολοι (που πα ρε καραμητρο με τον PIII?) τα πουσαρισματα τα γυαλισματα τα πασαλισματα και τα mods να δουμε που θα παει το πραμα.Εφοσον δεν υπαρχει κοντρα και εδω ειμαστε ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΒΟΗΘΑΜΕ Ο ΕΝΑΣ ΤΟΝ ΑΛΛΟΝ ΜΕ ΣΥΜΒΟΥΛΕΣ ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ ΕΜΠΕΙΡΙΑ ΜΑΣ βρισκω χασιμο χρονου και φαιας ουσιας ολη αυτη τη διαμαχη.Ετσι κι αλλιως δεν μπορειτε να αλλαξετε γνωμη η μια μερια στην αλλη.

 

P.S. Ποιος ειμαι ρε ο Αλεξανδρος? (Αλεχαντρο)

 

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