Maglaras Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 Μέλος Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 Telika ti ginete exei xrisimopieisei kaneis tin as3 kai na dei diafores pros ta katw? an einai na min tin parw eidi perimenw ena "Volcano 7+" einai kali epilogi gia p4 i den a3izi? (tin pire enan filos gia AMD alla telika den tin evale kai mou tin dinei)
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 mia xara einai i as3 arkei na valeis ena lepto omoiomorfo strwma afou kathariseis kala tis duo epifaneies..prosexe mi gemiseis tin trupoula pou exei o P4 sto heat-spreader... o 7+ kalos einai gia P4 an kai proswpika ton apexthanomai san cooler <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> ...einai as poume to skoda twn coolers pou palia i TT itan gia ta mpaza kai ksafnika arxise na ftiaxnei "kala" coolerakia <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (eimai fan tis alpha kai swiftech)
MadSurfer Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 26 Ιουνίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TonyMontana: <strong>o 7+ kalos einai gia P4 an kai proswpika ton apexthanomai san cooler <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> ...einai as poume to skoda twn coolers pou palia i TT itan gia ta mpaza kai ksafnika arxise na ftiaxnei "kala" coolerakia <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (eimai fan tis alpha kai swiftech)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oti eftiaxne kapote cooler gia ta mpaza den paei na pei oti twra den tha ftiaxnei kala... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Den lew g@[email protected] to alpha alla einai kai fotia, egw prosopika 70+ euro gia cooler(syn kati euro gia fan 8cm) den ta dino ta thewrw polla <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> , gia na min pw gia to swiftech pou anebainei kai allo h tarifa!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> Mia xara kanei ti douleia tou to volcano 7+ sto low kiolas kai exw kai ysixia <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> PS: Asxeto ayto me tin skoda, palia eytiaxne aytokinita monh ths alla apo tote pou tin pire h vw (opws kai tin Seat) den exoun kamia sxesi ta aytokinhta pou bgazei afou ola ta ylika einai tis vw kai tis audi opos kai ta ergostasia Edit: Kai stin epoxi ton pentium oi AMD k5 htan gia ta mpaza alla siga siga ksepetaxtike h AMD ligo me tous k6 kai siga siga eftase stous Athlon kai tote oloi san trelloi trexane na paroun Athlon logo timis kai taxytitas se sxesi me tous p3 ktl....kai paei legontas...... Edit2: Bebaia o kathenas me ta gousta tou kai tin tzepi tou..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <small>[ 26-06-2002, 16:21: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: MadSurfer ]</small>
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MadSurfer: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TonyMontana: <strong>o 7+ kalos einai gia P4 an kai proswpika ton apexthanomai san cooler ...einai as poume to skoda twn coolers pou palia i TT itan gia ta mpaza kai ksafnika arxise na ftiaxnei "kala" coolerakia (eimai fan tis alpha kai swiftech)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oti eftiaxne kapote cooler gia ta mpaza den paei na pei oti twra den tha ftiaxnei kala... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Den lew g@[email protected] to alpha alla einai kai fotia, egw prosopika 70+ euro gia cooler(syn kati euro gia fan 8cm) den ta dino ta thewrw polla <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> , gia na min pw gia to swiftech pou anebainei kai allo h tarifa!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> Mia xara kanei ti douleia tou to volcano 7+ sto low kiolas kai exw kai ysixia <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> PS: Asxeto ayto me tin skoda, palia eytiaxne aytokinita monh ths alla apo tote pou tin pire h vw (opws kai tin Seat) den exoun kamia sxesi ta aytokinhta pou bgazei afou ola ta ylika einai tis vw kai tis audi opos kai ta ergostasia Edit: Kai stin epoxi ton pentium oi AMD k5 htan gia ta mpaza alla siga siga ksepetaxtike h AMD ligo me tous k6 kai siga siga eftase stous Athlon kai tote oloi san trelloi trexane na paroun Athlon logo timis kai taxytitas se sxesi me tous p3 ktl....kai paei legontas...... Edit2: Bebaia o kathenas me ta gousta tou kai tin tzepi tou..... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">den diafwnw ...oso gia ti skoda den eipa oti den exei analavei i VW ..apla lew tha epernes skoda kserontas tin istoria tis - den se xalaei ligo? ki as einai kala amaksia twra <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> i tha mazeues kati parapanw na pareis VW? kapws etsi to ennow ... eksallou 30e parapanw gia ena cooler pou tha kratiseis polu kairo ontas kai poromenos me to thema twn PC den nomizw pws einai tromero eksodo..skepsou posa lefta petame apo edw ki apo ekei se pragmata pou den ta xairomaste opws to pc mas <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> (vevea legontas auta ennoeitai pws exeis kai kapio eisodima pou mporeis na diaxeiristeis kai oxi apokleistika xartziliki apo goneis klp)
MadSurfer Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Symfwnw geitona <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> , apla to volcano 7+ den einai toso gia ta mpaza tin kanei tin douleia tou, bebaia den tha me xalage kai to alpha alla den goustara na ta doso ta 70+euro epeidi eixa brei to volcano 7+ apo enan gnwsto mou 35euro, bale kai 20 pou edwsa to volcano 7 tote mou bgike me 15eurakia <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> kai mexri twra den me exei xalasei katholou, mporei na xtypiso argotera kati kalytero pote den ksereis h trella me ta pc einai megali kai ta allazoume ola san poukamisi... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MadSurfer: <strong>Symfwnw geitona <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> , apla to volcano 7+ den einai toso gia ta mpaza tin kanei tin douleia tou, bebaia den tha me xalage kai to alpha alla den goustara na ta doso ta 70+euro epeidi eixa brei to volcano 7+ apo enan gnwsto mou 35euro, bale kai 20 pou edwsa to volcano 7 tote mou bgike me 15eurakia <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> kai mexri twra den me exei xalasei katholou, mporei na xtypiso argotera kati kalytero pote den ksereis h trella me ta pc einai megali kai ta allazoume ola san poukamisi... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">a geia sou <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> - piase 2 mpures gkarson!! krues e?
Maglaras Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Μέλος Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Vasika o logos pou paw se Volcano 7+ einai oti 8a to parw apo enan filo monon 30e (to pire mia XP+ alla den mporese na to parei kai stin aganaktisi tou to dinei etsi) ektous aftou exw akousei kai para poli kala logia gi aftos se merika sigritita pou eida sto net (Tony den ipirxan Alfa sta sigritika). Episeis skeftika na anixo kai merikes tripes na valw kana epipleon anemistira(Tony eida to kouti sou, kai poli proto pragma, eidika o swlina!!!) 8a kerdisw tipota pou na ani3w tripes (se pia simia tou koutiou) simiosi exw ena Midi-ATX kai den mporw na kanw tripes mrosta.
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 magl gia ta lefta auta einai mia xara o 7+ kai tha kanei ti douleia tou..
LEFteriz Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Να ρωτήσω λίγο κάτι σχετικο? Ποιος P4 απ' όλους τους Northwood πουσάρεται πιο εύκολα? Τις ίδιες δυνατότητες έχει ο 1.6 και ο 1.8 και ο 2.0 ?
Xpanded Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Fysika kai den xreiasthka odhgies gia na to kanw kai fysika den kalipsa thn trypoula ayth einai mia klasikh antidrash kserola kai den asxoloumai kai poly me tetoia atoma alla telos pantwn tis odhgies tis katebasa afou to eixa kanei kai eida oti oi thermokrasies megalosan gia na dw an eixa kanei kati lathos kai den eixa kanei tipota lathos.Lefteriz gia ton 2.0 den kserw alla osoi 1.8 exw dei einai dyskoloi na pousaristoun kai na einai apolytws statheroi enw antithetos osoi 1.6 exw dei (kai ton diko mou akoma) pousarontai eykola kai einai statheroi
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Xpanded: <strong>Fysika kai den xreiasthka odhgies gia na to kanw kai fysika den kalipsa thn trypoula ayth einai mia klasikh antidrash kserola kai den asxoloumai kai poly me tetoia atoma alla telos pantwn tis odhgies tis katebasa afou to eixa kanei kai eida oti oi thermokrasies megalosan gia na dw an eixa kanei kati lathos kai den eixa kanei tipota lathos.Lefteriz gia ton 2.0 den kserw alla osoi 1.8 exw dei einai dyskoloi na pousaristoun kai na einai apolytws statheroi enw antithetos osoi 1.6 exw dei (kai ton diko mou akoma) pousarontai eykola kai einai statheroi</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">toulaxiston einai antidrasi pragmatikou kserola oson afora to thema mas panta ..fisika an thes kanoume kai diagwnismo <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> kai na asxoleisai kamia fora me tetia atoma mpas kai matheis tipota parapanw ...apo ekei kai pera oi 1.8 kamia fora dimiourgoun provlimata sto overclock me merikes mobo...oi 2 einai akrivoutsikoi ara enas 1.6 teleuteas fournias einai i pio logiki lusi. o dikos mou me pack date aprilio kai costa rica einai ok sigoura mexri 2.72GHz..screenshot me background tous overclockers pou eimai member 1.5 xrono twra.. kai merika benchmarks me ti mnimi se polu relaxed timings giati den antexei ta FSB >150 se cas2...sta benchies i mnimi einai se 2.5-7-3-3 timings kai i karta grafikwn sto 3dmark i palia mou gf2 gts 230/400...suntoma samsung pc2700 kai tha doume liga bencies sta 2.8GHz <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <small>[ 27-06-2002, 08:44: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: TonyMontana ]</small>
kavaliotis Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Afou phges sto site kai eides odhgies ktl 8a katalaves oti h AS3 einai ena polu parakseno meigma pou den einai san thn AS2..H AS2 epiane amesos thn max apodosh ths logw ths domhs tou hlikou ths..H AS3 DEN pianei amesos thn max apodosh ths, auto to kanei meta apo merikes ores leitourgias, alla tote blepeis 8ermokrasies polu mikroteres apo oti 8a eixes me AS2.. Oso gia ton filo pou anoikse to topic, an fovasai na pareis AS3 pare AS2 ti na po, ekei toulaxiston sumfwnoume oloi pistevo oti einai kataplhktiko proion pou sigoura "doulevei".. Alla kane ena search sto google na deis apotelesmata apo AS3 kai 8a me 8umh8eis..
Xpanded Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Otan egrapsa ayth thn apanthsh eixane perasei treis meres hdh (oi 78 wres pou xreiazontai) opote akyro ayto pou les,katebasa tis odhgies meta apo otan perasan aytes oi 3 meres kai epeidh den eida apotelesmata gia na dw an exw kanei kati lathos kai mono,twra den amfibalo oti mporei na exei apotelesmata apla se emena den eixe kai ayto isws na exei na kanei me thn arketa megalh thermokrasia tou domatiou h me to kouti mou pou einai parafortomeno me kalodia h 100 alloi logoi.Montana o anthropos pou kserei kai den einai epeidiksias otan milaei se enan anthropo pou exei dhlwsei oti einai asxetos entelws tou milaei me pio eygeniko tropo kai fysika den tha katsw na mpw se kokoromaxies tetoiou eidous den kerdises ton kosmo an ksereis na kanei overclocking den einai to pan sta pc ayto opote mathe tropous prwta kai meta peksto opos thes kai na thimasai apanthsa se ayta pou les den ksekinhsa tipota egw opws milas etsi sou apantw <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
kavaliotis Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Se FULL LOAD (katevase to HOT CPU TESTER, to TOAST, to UD AGENT gia na to dokimaseis) ti 8ermokrasies exeis meta apo mish wra pou trexeis ena apo auta ta programmata? Dhladh otan h CPU sou doulevei sunexeia sto 100% gia 30 lepta pes mas ti 8ermokrasies exeis..An to eixes dokimasei kai me thn prohgoumenh aloifh pou eixes 8a mporousame na kanoume sugkrish, giati na ksereis oti ta IDLE temps einai anousia, mias kai ekei OSO kai na exeis den se endiaferei, ekeino pou se endiaferei eiani otan ftaneis thn CPU sta oria ths kai ekei 8es h 8ermokrasia na einai xamhlh!!!!
TonyMontana Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Ιουνίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Xpanded: <strong>Otan egrapsa ayth thn apanthsh eixane perasei treis meres hdh (oi 78 wres pou xreiazontai) opote akyro ayto pou les,katebasa tis odhgies meta apo otan perasan aytes oi 3 meres kai epeidh den eida apotelesmata gia na dw an exw kanei kati lathos kai mono,twra den amfibalo oti mporei na exei apotelesmata apla se emena den eixe kai ayto isws na exei na kanei me thn arketa megalh thermokrasia tou domatiou h me to kouti mou pou einai parafortomeno me kalodia h 100 alloi logoi.Montana o anthropos pou kserei kai den einai epeidiksias otan milaei se enan anthropo pou exei dhlwsei oti einai asxetos entelws tou milaei me pio eygeniko tropo kai fysika den tha katsw na mpw se kokoromaxies tetoiou eidous den kerdises ton kosmo an ksereis na kanei overclocking den einai to pan sta pc ayto opote mathe tropous prwta kai meta peksto opos thes kai na thimasai apanthsa se ayta pou les den ksekinhsa tipota egw opws milas etsi sou apantw <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">den einai thema epidiksis apla esu viastikes na peis oti epeidi to dokimases kai pires ta tade apotelesmata ki epeidi akolouthises tis odigies einai swnei kai kala swsta... otan vlepw loipon tetia drwmena deixnw ligo dontaki <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> den eipa na leme tin apopsi mas alla oxi ares mares koukounares giati mas diavazoun kai paidakia edw kai pane kai xalane to pc tous meta <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> kai mias kai to aneferes san ilektrologos/ilektronikos mixanikos me 2 metaptuxiaka stin agglia katexw polla perissotera pragmata gia pc pera apto overclocking ..kai gia na kleisoume to thema tis epidiksis tha mporousa na sou epideixthw se perissotera themata apo osa fantazesai.. gia na kleisoume to thema den eixa kati mazi sou oute eixa skopo na erthoume se antiparathesi apla m'aresei na leme ta pragmata me to onoma tous kai na leme kati aptin stigmi pou kseroume giati milame..kai den eimaste sigouroi kalo einai na to anaferoume..tespa etsi toulaxiston leitourgw egw. <small>[ 27-06-2002, 15:04: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: TonyMontana ]</small>
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