Ξηλωθειτε παλι (για χαρη της intel)

[BrwmogazoS]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kavaliotis:

<strong>Auto to "den eida kammia diafora" sto desktop to lene para polloi..Dhladh ti diafora perimenes na deis? Ego exo KT333 me AthlonXP kai as poume sto desktop phgaine opos kai o palios PII pou eixa!!! Ti perimenes, na anoigoun ta para8ura prin ta anoikseis?!?!? Anyways otan milame gia diafores milame gia poso pio grhgora kaneis ena DivX, douleia sto Photoshop, encoding, benchmarks ktl pou xrhsimopoioun thn CPU..Apo ekei kai pera, me tetoies times ego Intel den prokeitai na parw pote, AMD 4 ever! (ektos kai an uparksei meiwsh timwn h bgei sto proskhnio kammia nea etairia!)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOl, me overclocking-benchamrking asxoloumai kavalioti...les na mhn kserw giati milaw?ekfrazomai gia to pws enas user san esena px 8a evlepe to pc se sxesh me ena allo...Twra an 8es na lew oti eida diafora...tote 8a arxisw na milaw gia benchies me noumera apo softs pou isws na mhn ta gnwrizoune polloi users edw:).Kai kserw poly kala oti h diafora-nevrikothta pou vlepeis me ena fast hdd den sigrinetai me ena upgrade 200-300mhz;)pou sou perna sxedon aparathrito.Pistepse me...den ta vgazw apo to myalo mou.Allaksa 5 cpus apo ta xristougenna kai 3 mobo,logo overclocking...les na mhn asxolh8hka me benching gia na dw to poso pio grhgoro egine to mhxanhma mou? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> .Ti pci kartes exeis mesa sto pc sou?Asxolh8hkes me raid?Den 8elw na pisteyw oti eisai kollhmenos AMDakias,apla epeidh mporei na mhn exeis esy probs den shmainei oti kaneis allos den exei...oi pio polloi filoi mou den exoun kan idea gia ta crackling noises akoma kai otan ta akoune mesa se games...kai polloi ta agnoounai...Afto den shmainei den exw probs me via rigs...Oute otan tous kahke-chippare h cpu eipan oti afto einai ena meionekthma akoma kai an ta eskasan gia kainouria...8a prepei na eimai trellos na lew oti den eimai efxaristhmenos apo ta AMD rigs enw to pc mou einai AMD based...

Filika

Dimitris.

 

Oso gia ta patches gia ta crackling noises pou les RISKY...anaferesai apla se driver updates?kai via latency patches?giati den exw akousei gia to patching pou milas.Kai sou milaw ka8ara gia atoma pou asxolountai me overclocking kai kseroun to systhma tous apeksw...oxi se aplous xrhstes...ara den einai ka8olou asxetoi oso nomhzeis...So far driver updates-OS updates,via latency patches ,xamhlwma katw apo 80% tou volume sto mixer kai disabling to ACPI einai oi most commoon lyseis pou polles fores den lynoun kan to provlhma...kai pistepse me ta exw dokimasei sto pc mou edw kai mhnes...mporeis na mas peis gia to patching pou anaferesai me details poio einai?Giati mou fenetai periergo na mhn exei do8ei epishma lysh me to patching pou les:)ektos kai an patching einai afta pou anefera pio panw.

 

<small>[ 10-05-2002, 17:37: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: BrwmogazoS ]</small>

[kavaliotis]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BrwmogazoS:

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kavaliotis:

<strong>Auto to "den eida kammia diafora" sto desktop to lene para polloi..Dhladh ti diafora perimenes na deis? Ego exo KT333 me AthlonXP kai as poume sto desktop phgaine opos kai o palios PII pou eixa!!! Ti perimenes, na anoigoun ta para8ura prin ta anoikseis?!?!? Anyways otan milame gia diafores milame gia poso pio grhgora kaneis ena DivX, douleia sto Photoshop, encoding, benchmarks ktl pou xrhsimopoioun thn CPU..Apo ekei kai pera, me tetoies times ego Intel den prokeitai na parw pote, AMD 4 ever! (ektos kai an uparksei meiwsh timwn h bgei sto proskhnio kammia nea etairia!)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOl, me overclocking-benchamrking asxoloumai kavalioti...les na mhn kserw giati milaw?ekfrazomai gia to pws enas user san esena px 8a evlepe to pc se sxesh me ena allo...Twra an 8es na lew oti eida diafora...tote 8a arxisw na milaw gia benchies me noumera apo softs pou isws na mhn ta gnwrizoune polloi users edw:).Kai kserw poly kala oti h diafora-nevrikothta pou vlepeis me ena fast hdd den sigrinetai me ena upgrade 200-300mhz;)pou sou perna sxedon aparathrito.Pistepse me...den ta vgazw apo to myalo mou.Allaksa 5 cpus apo ta xristougenna kai 3 mobo,logo overclocking...les na mhn asxolh8hka me benching gia na dw to poso pio grhgoro egine to mhxanhma mou? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> .Ti pci kartes exeis mesa sto pc sou?Asxolh8hkes me raid?Den 8elw na pisteyw oti eisai kollhmenos AMDakias,apla epeidh mporei na mhn exeis esy probs den shmainei oti kaneis allos den exei...oi pio polloi filoi mou den exoun kan idea gia ta crackling noises akoma kai otan ta akoune mesa se games...kai polloi ta agnoounai...Afto den shmainei den exw probs me via rigs...Oute otan tous kahke-chippare h cpu eipan oti afto einai ena meionekthma akoma kai an ta eskasan gia kainouria...8a prepei na eimai trellos na lew oti den eimai efxaristhmenos apo ta AMD rigs enw to pc mou einai AMD based...

Filika

Dimitris.

 

Oso gia ta patches gia ta crackling noises pou les RISKY...anaferesai apla se driver updates?kai via latency patches?giati den exw akousei gia to patching pou milas.Kai sou milaw ka8ara gia atoma pou asxolountai me overclocking kai kseroun to systhma tous apeksw...oxi se aplous xrhstes...ara den einai ka8olou asxetoi oso nomhzeis...So far driver updates-OS updates,via latency patches ,xamhlwma katw apo 80% tou volume sto mixer kai disabling to ACPI einai oi most commoon lyseis pou polles fores den lynoun kan to provlhma...kai pistepse me ta exw dokimasei sto pc mou edw kai mhnes...mporeis na mas peis gia to patching pou anaferesai me details poio einai?Giati mou fenetai periergo na mhn exei do8ei epishma lysh me to patching pou les:)ektos kai an patching einai afta pou anefera pio panw.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Re sy den to eipa gia na se meioso!!!! Mhn pairneis gia kako oti eipa! Panta filika milame kai exoume ksanamilhsei arketes fores mazi edopera gia overclocking! Apla as poume pio polu diafora pistevo 8a deis sto desktop an pareis grhgoro skliro para an pareis mia CPU me 100-200Mhz parapano apo osa exeis! Oso gia benchies, logiko einai kati kainourgio na einai kai pio grhgoro, apo ekei kai pera analoga to ti kerdizei o ka8enas apofasizei kai agorazei..As poume den 8a edina ton AthlonXP 1800+ pou exo gia na paro enan Thoroughbred mias kai den 8a do diafores apodoshs! Kata ta Xristougenna tou 2002 kai efoson pistevo ekeinh thn stigmh oti h CPU mou mou fainetai "argh", 8a dw ti mporo na kano gia anaba8mish..An kai den nomizo, tora pia einai arketa grhgora oti exoume kai nomizo 8a krathsoun ligo parapano apo oti paliotera..

Oso gia na sthsw p4 susthma, to apofeugo polu apla giati einai panakriba se sxesh me auto pou apodidoun kai 8a prepei na allakso kai mobo pou den nomizo oti 8elo..

Ontos ta problhmata ths VIA mporo na po oti den ta antimetwpisa me osa mobos eixa me auto..Kai eixa kai SoundBlaster..Tora xrhsimopoio thn onboard karta hxou tou mobo mou mexri ton Oktobrh pou 8a pao Agglia opote kai 8a paro kati kainourgio, tora me ikanopoiei apoluta auth pou exo..

Telos (ante epitelous mas eprikses!) AMDakias eimai tora, opos eipa kai prin ama vro kati kalutero apo AMD na eisai sigouros oti 8a allakso! Kollhmenos den eimai, aplos tora einai oi kaluteroi..

[Risky]

Err nomizw pws ksefugame apo to 8ema ligo. Den anaferomoun proswpika stous filous sou Brwmogaze alla genika se users. Mhn ta pairneis proswpika <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> . Twra oson afora se patching ,en merei anaferomai se ayta pou aneferes kai epipleon gia Hex registry editors, moded bios me arbitration gia cpu/pci bridging kai tetoia kolpakia pou eimai sigouros oti gnwrizeis kai den xreiazetai na mpoume se peraiterw leptomereies mias kai den einai ayto to 8ema tou post. Mallon to 8ema einai to gnwsto AMD h Intel telika kai h protimhsh tou ka8enos einai upokeimenikh kai apodekth. Sorry gia to sxetika asxeto post apo tous upoloipous users. Paw gia pints ...

[BrwmogazoS]

Oups,sorry guyz.Den proseksa oti o tonos tou post mou htan asxhmos giati den ksanadiavasa to post mou prin to postaw :s...i apologize to both of you.Den exw intentions na parekshgh8w-tsakw8w me kanenan edw mesa oute exw pote allwste.Exei pesei polly stress me tin ptyxiakh teleytaia kai mou ftaine ola...Ontws einai 8ema tou ka8enos ti 8a parei kai eidika an einai efxaristhmenos me kati dyskola to allazei...Prin kati mhnes me tin KG7-R mou den eixa OUTE ENA PROB...oute crackling oute tipota kai stability trello parolo to overclocking.Teleytaia arxisane ola...crackling noises...na mhn ka8ontai ta leitourgika kala me tin KR7A-R mou pou etrexe 3 mhnes xwris provlhma...Apla fetos eftiaksa se filous pc me diafores kartes grafikwn...sblaster kartes hxou...mpeg kartes...scsi controllers kai TV cartes kai efaga trelles wres na setarw-ftiaksw ta pc tous apo ta irq conflicts kai diafores asta8eies...Les kai plhrwnomai to k****o mou.Polles fores htan 8ema xalasmenwn hardware px: faulty abit KG7-L afou to 3dmark tou kollage kai anagasthke na to paei pisw 2 fores giati den me pistepsan oti eftaige i mobo alla mas edwsan karta grafikwn...technical departemnt my arse <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> , i tin allh fora se rambus kai p4 1.5 rig pou ta win 2k crasharane san trella enw prospa8ousa na ftiaksw tin Win TV tou pou olo irw conficts etrwge kai telika anakalypsa oti to kainourio DVD pioneer tou eftaige kai to installation twn windows eixe tosa probs...Ara ka8ara probs hardware polles fores gia diafora crasharismata kai probs.

Apla panta ypyrxan fores pou ola phgainan kala alla ta klasika probs opws...crackling noises den feygane...opws kai sto pc mou pleon kai mou exei spasei ta nevra.

An den exeis prob mhn to peirazeis einai i lysh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> .Apla to prob einai oti ama sou katsoune kati kakotyxies...ksenerwneis trella kai einai poly dyskolh h allagh se stratopedo gia na apallaxteis apo ta probs sou.

Oi NW me ta trella overclockings tous 8a me krathsoune busy tou xronou(h oi prestonia i oti allo vgei tou xronou), kata synepeia 8a tin kanw gia rambus kai P4...etsy gia na apalagw apo ta crackling noises kai alla psiloprobs pou mporei kai na ef8ynontai sto sygekrimeno mobo mou.

Den 8a kathgorhsw omws tin intel gia tis panakrives cpus tis oute ta akriva mobo me intel chipsets.An den mporw na agorasw kati den 8a to parw.Allwste tin idia mera pou oi XP vghkane den phra Xp 1800...alla 1500 pou htan kai o pio fthnos.Den 8a parw high end cpu pote giati pane tsampa polla fraga...opws tin pathsa me tin KR7A-R pou tin phra tin idia mera pou vghke giati h KG7-R mou psofhse...Apla kserw oti 8a parw Intelaki kai polla probs mou 8a eksafanistoun.Alla to na allazw 5 cpus se 3 mhnes epeidh den 8a clockaroune kala...dyskolo mou fenetai me Intel CPU:p.