Ati Radeon 8500 'h Ge-Force 3 Ti 500?

[pyro]

αχ αυτες οι μερες οι καλες της 3dfx...

[MY80-]

Den ekraxe kanenas thn Ti500, fusika kai einai para poly kalh karta....h timh ths einai pou krazw (an theoreis polla ta 130 fadazomai ti piseyeis gia ta 260). O kyrios logo pou ekana thn anavatmish einai giati vrhka gnwsto na passarw thn kyro gia kalo xrhma kai apo kei kai pera ti na kanw? Na parw xeiroterh? To ligotero pou borousa na parw htane Gef2Ultra h Gef3Ti200 alla den einai da kai toso megalh h xrhmatikh diafora metaxy autwn kai ths radeon opote th xtyphsa Oso gia to 3dmark exeis dikio. An kai ta stadar skor einai ok ta perissotera, kati 13000+ pou vlepw den nomizw na mhn exoune artifacts.....alla apo thn allh etsi bainei ws kritirio kai to overclockability mias kartas, giati OC den tha peftei mono se mia sygekrimenh karta alla se oles....apla ta apotelesmata tha vgainoun ligaki exwpragmatika giauto kai sthn ousia einai mesw sygrishs kai oxi merthshs apodwshs.

[Stormwatch]

ax kai pali ax...i alithia einai pos exo pithimisei ti Voodoola mu

[NickTheGreek]

Ego pantos exo mia viper550 PCI edo kai 3 xronia kai eimai apolita ikanopoiimenos.An theliso pote perissoteri taxitita tha kano anabathmisi ston epeksergasti kai meta blepoume....<BR>Ypopsin pantos oti kathe fora pou bgainei enas neos typos kartas,ektos apo auksimeni taxitita, prosferei kai kainouria xaraktiristika ta opoia ta palia paixnidia kai programmata den mporoun na aksiopoiisoun.Opote poios o logos na treksei kapoios kai na agorasei mia olokainouria karta panakriba kai na mhn perimenei ena xrono,oste na thn parei kai ftinotera kai na aksiopoiisei tis kainouries tis leitourgies.<P>Etairies einai kai koitane na kanoune tzirous na poulisoun kamia metoxi.Gi auto kai bgazoune kainouries kartes kathe mera.Mhn tsimpate reee

[R_Barrichello]

paidia ego apo proswpikes emepiries sas leo oti oses nvdia exo piasei sta xeria mou parakalousa na mhn eixa kanei th blakeia na tis agoraso...edo kai ena xrono eimai me mia geforce2 gts kai ante mhn arxiso na milao gia ta xalia ths....aeimnhsth h 3dfx...thimamai pou eixa parei th banshee molis bghke 35000! kai hmoun oxi apla eyxaristhmenos...to mhxanaki petouse! mono h ati exei meinei pia na antagwnistei thn nvidia kai oi kartes ths exoun koryfaia poiothta kataskeyhs, koryfaia poiothta eikonas, -pragmatikh- taxythta idia an oxi megalyterh apo tis geforce kai xamhloterh timh. na mhn milhso kai gia thn apokwdikopoihsh dvd. to mono kalo ths nvidia einai oti bgazei syxna odhgous. opote makria apo nvidia. opoios thelei as me akousei. opoios de thelei h einai ekatommyriouxos as paei na ta skasei sthn nvdia kai na parei mia mapa...

[yositosi]

Swstos eisai file R_Barrichelo. Epomenws ipothetw oti anikw sto 90% twn ilithiwn autou tou planiti pou exoun nVidia based card. Na'sai kala file mou. Aaaaaa twra pou to thimithika... edwsa girw stis 60000 prin dio mines kai pira tin geforce2 Pro. Re maga gia pes mou ki eme poia ATI me analogi timi kai ises epidoseis mporousa na vrw??? Otan milame na skeftomaste prwta!!! Anamenw apantisi!

[pyro]

δεν νομιζω οτι ο R_baricelo ενωει οτι εισαι ηλιθιος, απλα πιστευει οτι η 3dfx ηταν οι καλυτερες καρτες ενω οι nvidia δεν μπορουν (μπορουσαν μαλλων..) να τις φτασουν, ουτε σε αποδοση ουτε σε τιμη. Το θεμα δεν ειναι ρε παιδες να το κανουμαι οπως ΑΜD vs Intel, απλα τις γνωμες μας λεμε, μη θηγεστε

[yositosi]

Ksekola re si Pyro!! Elpizw na katalaves oti den thixtika! Apla den goustarw autes tis genikeuseis. Otan milame gia tin Geforce3 einai autonoito oti apo pleuras epidosewn kai xaraktiristikwn einai korifi.... alla apo tin alli i timi tis einai adikailogita ipsili!!! Omws.... na min akouw oti i ATI einai ftini etairia... psilofarmaki einai oi kartes tis! Episis o filos mas ekane akoma mia megali authairesia kai ethikse ton tomea tis poiotitas!! Pou kolaei auto??? Nvidia kartes vriskeis apo ena swro etairies opote pws krinei kapoios tin poiotita??? Exw filo mou pou xriswse tin Geforce2MX tis Creative kai itan gemati provlimata kai paraksenies enw egw eixa mia 8818 me to idio GPU tis MSI kai douleue ekpliktika... opote ti tha pei o allos oti ftaiei i nVidia i mipws i Creative?? Episis to mega kako me tin ATI einai oti den douleuoun alles etairies to GPU tis... opote i veltiwsi sto reference board einai midamini!!! Se antithesi sa thimizw oti oi kaliteres Geforce vgikan apo etairies oi opoies veltiwsan to reference board tis nVidia!! Auta pros to paron.

[Deathstar]

p.x. ena test pou egine apo enan se ena forum stin agglia. Idou ta apotelesmata:<BR>" As mentioned in the first part of my comparison I have now completely finished benchmarking both the cards under 3D Mark 2001. <BR>The refresh rate for the default test (1024x768x32) was set too 60Hz and 85Hz for the 1600x1200 test. <P>So lets jump straight to the numbers. <P><BR>ATI R8500 Results, default test (1024x768x32) <P>1400Mhz, 133FSB, No tweaks and card at default (275/550). <BR>Score = 8278 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card at default (275/550). <BR>Score = 9007 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card overclocked to 305/580. <BR>Score = 9516 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>ATI R8500, High Resolution test results (1600x1200x32) <P>1400Mhz, 133FSB, No tweaks and card at default (275/550). <BR>Score = 5420 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card at default (275/550). <BR>Score = 5562 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card overclocked to 305/580. <BR>Score = 6003 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P><BR>Geforce 3 Ti500 Results, Default test (1024x768x32) <P>1400Mhz, 133FSB, No tweaks and card at default (240/500). <BR>Score = 7731 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card at default (240/500). <BR>Score = 8449 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card overclocked to 265/580. <BR>Score = 8993 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>Geforce 3 Ti500 , High Resolution test results (1600x1200x32) <P>1400Mhz, 133FSB, No tweaks and card at default (240/500). <BR>Score = 5068 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card at default (240/500). <BR>Score = 5170 3D Mark 2001 Points! <P>1680Mhz, 160FSB, No tweaks and card overclocked to 265/580. <BR>Score = 5826 3D Mark 2001 Points! "

[R_Barrichello]

file yositosi opws eides eimai ki ego katoxos mias nvdia opote an kathgoro kapoion aytos einai o eaytos mou...apo thn allh den apokalesa kanenan katoxo kartas nvdia hlithio. aplws eksefrasa th gnwmh mou. pantws h radeon 8500 opws ola deixnoun yperexei ths geforce 3 eno kostizei sxedon ta misa lefta. den einai logiko loipon na symferei pio poly na agoraseis mia ati? panw katw h idia katastash me intel-AMD epikratei. kai telika giati porwnomaste toso kai yposthrizoume tis etairies aytes? pososta pairnoumai h mas dinoun ta proionta tous dwrean???<P>filika

[yositosi]

File mou den antilegw... apla pisteuw oti to 95% twn xristwn stin teliki den kaigetai kai poli gia to pia einai isxiroteri karta apo tis dio. To oti i timi tis Geforce3 einai psiloekswfreniki den simainei oti kai i ATI einai ftini (einai aplws akrivi). Kata ti gnwmi mou kai oi dio kartes apeuthinontai auti ti stigmi sto upper-end market segment. Twra gia to pia apo tis dio einai isxiroteres pisteuw oti stin praksi gia to mati kai i 8500 kai GF3 einai idies me mia GF2 Ti!!! Opote giati na xalastw kai na agxwthw na parw mia apo tis dio twra?? Den vriskeis logiki tin apopsi mou?

[R_Barrichello]

fysika kai einai logikh. pragmatika ayth th stigmh den yparxei pragmatikh diafora apodoshs anamesa stis treis kartes pou anafereis. h ati fysika an thn paroume memonwmena den einai fthnh alla exontas san metro sygkrishs thn timh ths gf3 mou fainetai oti einai fthnh. telopantwn ki ego symfono oti tora den einai h katallhlh stigmh gia kapoion na parei mia kainouria karta grafikwn

[Sonam]

Symfwnw to oti den einai kairos na agoraseis kainouria karta graphikwn. Alla apo tin allh an einai na dwsw 120000 kai na parw mia Ati anti twn 80000 gia mia G2 tote giati na mhn ta dwsw. Kai pisteuw oti tha krathsh poly pio poly apo ena xrono. Kala eimaste sobaroi? Ti analuseis einai autes? Egw kai me 800x600 eimai euxaristimenos! Ante kai me 640x480 as poume. ti 1600x1200 akouw. Gia na paikseis se autes analuseis theleis mia 19" twn 250000! Egw pisteuw pws an kapoios then exei polles apaithseis me mia ati 'h G3 mporei na thn bgalei aneta 3-4 xronia. Egw toulaxiston epaiza Quake 3 me mia TNT2 Pro se 800x600 me merika graphika apenergopoihmena kai pali euxaristiomouna paixnidi. Twra autes oi apaithseis tis theorw paraloges. Pantws an 8elete thn gnwmh mou oi diafores einai polu mikres sthn apodosh alla polu megales sthn timh me fthinoterh thn Ati. Opote egw Ati "mexri thn teleutaia stagona..."

[MY80-]

Logika oria? To 3dmark2k1 yparxei ena xrono kai paixnidi toso apaithtiko den exei vgei akoma. Se kamia dekaria xronia tha milame gia 2000X1400 gaming me 10XFSAA kai 128bit xrwmata.....tespa....twra padws den borw na pw oti me xalaei pou paizw RTCW ola maxed 1024X768 me highest anisotropy kai 2XQSV (FSAA alla den tholwnei ta textures). De lew oti o average gamer ta xreiazetai ola auta.....alla afou den yparxei kai gigadia diafora sthn timh giati oxi? ATI rulez (mexri na vroume tipota allo me kalytero performance/price ratio toulaxiston) BTW, tsakwste ena skoraki (apo 250/250 phge 300/260 stable xwris artifacts....den axizei gia 100-200 pontous padws, I NEED A NEW CPU ) <A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2122601" TARGET=_blank>http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2122601</A>

[Toufas]

ti na po...ego me mia voodoo 2 evgala 3 xronia an thimame kala...kai imouna poli happy..persi tetoia epoxi pira ton duron 750 kai mia hercules mx (eixa celery sta 416 apo 333 kai mia voodoo 2 kai mia ati all in wonder pro)kai apo tote mono cpu exo allaksei..mia xara pezoune oloi..to avp2 to xarika mia xara...oxi pos den tha ithela mia radeon 8500 tora..