dolby digital or dts? 2500digital or tss1???

[FoXfOxFoX]

dolby digital or dts? 2500digital or tss1???<P>basika gia xrhsh me playstation 2 me optikh ina.<P>exw sxedon kataliksei apo pleuras creative, sta 2500 digital, alla playworks kai oxi apla soundworks, h monh diafora einai oti ta prwta exoun kai optikh.<BR>h timh lianikh einai peripou sta 90000.<BR>apo xarakthristika einai 7x4 doriforous, kai 21 to kentriko, kai 20 to subwoofer, synolo peripou 70 watt.<BR>auta exoun dolby digital alla oxi dts.<P>apo thn allh ta yamaha tss-1.<BR>me 80000, alla gyrw sta 48 mono watt.<BR>to kentriko apoti 8ymamai einai oso kai ta ipolipa hxeia,<BR>to kalo einai oti exoun dts.<P>twra kapioi mou lene oti h piothta einai kalyterh gia thn creative, kai h entash epishs.<BR>kapioi to anti8eto...<BR>ti na kanw?<BR>8elw na exoun dynath entash fisika...<P>de kserw... aksizei to dts ths yamaha, pio poly apo ta +20 watt ths creative?<P>parakalw diafwtiste me,<BR>kapios me ps2 pou ta exei dokimasei 8a htan akoma kalytera, alla kai sto peripou kapios pou kserei.....<P>a, kai mou einai dyskolo na dwsw 130000 gia ta 3500 digital pou apla exoun 80 watt kai xeiristirio, ta mona parapanw apo ta 2500 digital, kai etsi einai +40000 akribwtera...

[billdanos]

Egw eimai apolyta eyharisthmenos apo ta tss1!<BR>Eidika se merika dvd me DTS o hxos einai apsogos (ta ehw syndesei me thn psifiakh exodo ths dxr3).

[Deathstar]

i diafora metaksi DTT 2500 kai DTT3500 den einai toso apli oso nomizizi diladi ta perisotera watt kai to xiristirio exoun kai akoustiki diafora. Ego exo ta DTT3500 kai ta DTT2500 ta exi o aderfos mou kai ta 2 me digital sindedemena exi diafora o ixos gia tin aplos logiki eksigisi oti ta DTT3500 exoun kai apokodikopiiti diko tous se adithesi me ta DTT2500. Pou tin apokodikopiisi tin kani i SB live 5.1 exi simasia pos ginete i apokodikopiisi kai ti piotita ftani sto ixio enoiite oti kataskeuastika oi doriforoi einai idioi aneksartitos ta watt mias kai ta ilika se endiaferoun dioti 1 watt diafora den exi megali simasia ana doriforo. Opote exi simasia apo pou pernis to sima apokodikopiimeno

[yositosi]

ELEOS re paidia!!! Min trwte paramithi esti averta!!! Min akouw m@l@kies peri Creative ixeiwn!!! Sto ekswteriko iparxoun ena karo kalitera! Episis, tis proales akouga enan pitsirika na mou leei oti tou eskase to woofer se ena DTS3500!!! Oso gia to TSS1 akouse to kai krine. Alla exe ipopsi sou oti i eidikotita tis Yamaha tosa xronia einai ta sistimata ixou (farmaki vevaia oi times tou Naka). Pantws se sigriseis, i piotita ixou tou TSS1 einai anwteri apo autin tou DTS3500 to opoio einai kai 45000 akrivotero. Telos oson afora ta Watt... na ta kaneis ti ta polla ean den exeis kai poiotita sigxronws???

[unforgiven]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Deathstar:<BR><STRONG>i diafora metaksi DTT 2500 kai DTT3500 den einai toso apli oso nomizizi diladi ta perisotera watt kai to xiristirio exoun kai akoustiki diafora. Ego exo ta DTT3500 kai ta DTT2500 ta exi o aderfos mou kai ta 2 me digital sindedemena exi diafora o ixos gia tin aplos logiki eksigisi oti ta DTT3500 exoun kai apokodikopiiti diko tous se adithesi me ta DTT2500. Pou tin apokodikopiisi tin kani i SB live 5.1 exi simasia pos ginete i apokodikopiisi kai ti piotita ftani sto ixio enoiite oti kataskeuastika oi doriforoi einai idioi aneksartitos ta watt mias kai ta ilika se endiaferoun dioti 1 watt diafora den exi megali simasia ana doriforo. Opote exi simasia apo pou pernis to sima apokodikopiimeno </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Έχω την εντύπωση ότι μπερδεύεις τα DTT 2200 με τα 2500. Τα 2500 έχουν ενσωματωμένο decoder, ενώ τα 2200, όχι...

[BrancaLeone]

επειδή έχω ακούσει τα tss1 της YAMAHA ένα μπορώ να σου πω: ακόμα και αν αποφασίσεις να κουφαθείς με το σύστημα ηχείων που θα αγοράσεις, παραμόρφωση δεν θα ακούσεις. Πράγμα που ουσιαστικά σημαίνει πως τα ηχεία αυτά είναι υπεραρκετά ακόμη και για home theater δωματίου. Μιλάμε πάντα για ένα χώρο 15-20 τμ.<BR>Όσο για το DTS η γνώμη μου είναι πως είναι σαφώς ανώτερο από το Dolby Digital.

[FoXfOxFoX]

Deathstar<P>mallon nai berdeueis ta 2200 me ta 2500, alla kai pali to playstation 2 exei apodikopiish dts kai dolby digital, opote psaxnw kai gia kosnola me tis idies apodikopiiseis.<BR>bebaia ta dtt 2500 kai 3500 den exoun dts, para mono dolby digital.<BR>giauto kai den kserw ti na kanw.<P><BR>pantos ta hxeia ta 8elw gia 10-15 tetragwnika xwro.<BR>gyro apo thn tv sto saloni kai 8elw opos eipa na exei kalh entash kai oxi psofia.<BR>dhladh en merh lew nai sta tss1 ths yamaha alla apoti mou eipane kai fantazomai den einai toso dynata oso ta dtt 2500.<P>BrancaLeone<BR>gia 15 tetragwnika einai yperarketa?<BR>h exei kapia aleiwsh sto terma ths entashs?

[yositosi]

Mages stin tsita kai den vgazoun alloiwsi ta TSS1 kai sas to ipografw!!! Alla apo pote eginan kala ta ixia tis Creative kai den to katalava???? To oti ta pasaroun ta magazia re paides den paei na pei oti einai kai kala!!!

[zlimvos]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FoXfOxFoX:<BR><STRONG>dolby digital or dts? 2500digital or tss1???<BR>kapios me ps2 pou ta exei dokimasei 8a htan akoma kalytera, alla kai sto peripou kapios pou kserei.....<BR></STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>To mono pou mporw na pw egw einai oti exw syndesei thn optikh ina se enan dolby digital enisxuth (5+1) (enan kenwood exw) kai genika einai entypwsiakos o hxos. <BR>Ama 8es na rwtiseis kati sygkekrimeno s'auto mou les. <P>Regards

[Deathstar]

Opa re Yositosi empire oute ta creative DTT3500 terma den exoun paramorfosi kai sto ipografo. Tora to ti kseri i mia etairia kai ti i ali einai ipokimeniko. An thelis pragmatika ixia pare Videologic 200 xiliarika me DTS kai exis korifi i anthelis akoma kalitera pare Bose me 300 xiliarika milame panda gia 5.1 sistimata kai ase tin creative kai tin yamaha na koureuonde.

[unforgiven]

Αν είναι να δώσεις γύρω στα 200000, δεν ρίχνεις μια ματιά στις λύσεις της Sony;

[FoXfOxFoX]

egw borw na dwsw gyro sta 90 gia ta 2500 digital kai ta tss1, maximum 130 gia ta 3500, alla dyskolo.<BR>teties times.....

[Deathstar]

Gia na mathoun meriki kanena ixio den paramorfoni. I paramorfosi ston ixo proerxete apo tin pigi tou ixou diladi ton enisxiti. O enisxitis paramorfoni giati vgeni ektos ton orion tou fisika eksartate se ti endasi einai to sima prin mpi ston enisxiti. To provlima tis paramorfosis enfanizete se enisxisi analogikon simaton. Opote otan milame gia sindesi meso optical ipodoxis milame gia kathara digital sima to opio den ginete na paramorfothi me tipota. An sindesisis opiadipote ixia Analogika kai termatisis ton enisxiti tha akousis ena fisima an sindesisi ta idia ixia psifiaka ston idio enisxiti kai ton xosis terma den tha akousis apolitos tipota. Einai texnologikos apodekto oti ta analogika simata exoun pola provlimata kai giauto iparxi kai to SNR (signal to noise ratio)sta mixanimata opou dixni poso kalos einai enas enisxitis ala panda gia analogiko sima dioti auta exoun ta provlimata.

[adams]

Arxisame tis kokoromaxies...mou 8umizei ligo amd-intel koularete ligo...akouo polous na ekfrazontai gia 5.1 hxo xoris na exoun akousei pote tous kapoio sobaro systhma me enisxuth kai hxeia opos yamaha-denon -sony-parasound kai hxeia chario -b&w k.t.l...Ekeino einai kalytero to allo bgazei perissotera db...<BR>Hremia prota apo ola prepei na apofasisei posa einai diate8eimnos o allos na dosei kai giati na dosei tosa (giati tou to eipa ego h o allos ή giati akouse 5 pragmata kai<BR>tou arese perissotero kai aksizei tosa)<BR>Gia mena an einai mexri 100000 pare oti 8eleis apo ayta pou anaferes alla an se pshsoun h pragmatika 8eleis kati kalo se hxo h lysh einai na pas na akouseis 5 pragmata se sobara magazia poy eidikeuontai se home-cinema(edo eimai an 8eleis plhrofories)...pistepse me h diafora se poiothta!!!kai entash hxou..(kai gia autous pou trelenontai me ta sub ths creative exo na po oti ena fthno sub arxizei apo 60000-mono tou-(oxi 60000 ola ta hxeia)<BR>To mono gia mena pou den aksizei gia ta lefta tou einai to 3500 ta 130000 ego phra enisxyth sony kai hxeia me 150000...h diafora terastia<BR>A oso gia thn paramorfosh poy toso akouo o enisxyths den enisxuei pshfiako shma(yparxoun kai tetoioi sthn agora alla kostizoun 1.5 murio kai pano ) alla analogiko o hxos eiserxetai se pshfiakh morfh apokodikopoihtai me ac3-dts decoder kai enisxyetai analogika meta<p>[ 15-11-2001: Message edited by: adams ]

[unforgiven]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Deathstar:<BR><STRONG>Gia na mathoun meriki kanena ixio den paramorfoni. I paramorfosi ston ixo proerxete apo tin pigi tou ixou diladi ton enisxiti. O enisxitis paramorfoni giati vgeni ektos ton orion tou fisika eksartate se ti endasi einai to sima prin mpi ston enisxiti. To provlima tis paramorfosis enfanizete se enisxisi analogikon simaton. Opote otan milame gia sindesi meso optical ipodoxis milame gia kathara digital sima to opio den ginete na paramorfothi me tipota. An sindesisis opiadipote ixia Analogika kai termatisis ton enisxiti tha akousis ena fisima an sindesisi ta idia ixia psifiaka ston idio enisxiti kai ton xosis terma den tha akousis apolitos tipota. Einai texnologikos apodekto oti ta analogika simata exoun pola provlimata kai giauto iparxi kai to SNR (signal to noise ratio)sta mixanimata opou dixni poso kalos einai enas enisxitis ala panda gia analogiko sima dioti auta exoun ta provlimata.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Σε γενικές γραμμές τα λες σωστά, αλλά με μία διαφορά (αν δεν κάνω λάθος). Στα συστήματα που συζητάμε, ο θόρυβος προέρχεται από τον ενισχυτή τους, ο οποίος είναι αναλογικός και δεν έχει να κάνει με το αν η είσοδος είναι αναλογική ή ψηφιακή. Αν τα βάλεις στο τέρμα, θα ακουστεί ένα φύσημα, όπως ακούγεται από όλους τους φτηνιάρικους ενισχυτές...