Allagi kartas grafikwn xreiazomai gnomes-symboules (den gnor

[MY80-]

Kati gia texnologies phre to auti mou.....makria h lista e?<BR>TRUFORM<P>SMARTSHADER<P>DirectX? 8.1 support<P>OpenGL? 1.3<P>SMOOTHVISION anti-aliasing<P>HYPER Z II<P>CHARISMA ENGINE II<P>PIXEL TAPESTRY II<P>VIDEO IMMERSION II<P>High Performance Memory Support<P>Dual Display Support<P>Integrated Transformation, Clipping and Lighting<P>Twin Cache Architecture<P>SuperScalar Rendering<P>Single-Pass Multi-texturing<P>True Color Rendering<P>Triangle Setup Engine<P>Texture Cache<P>Bilinear/Trilinear Filtering<P>Line & Edge Anti-aliasing<P>Full-Screen Anti-aliasing<P>Texture Compositing<P>Texture Decompression<P>Specular Highlights<P>Perspectively Correct Texture Mapping<P>Mip-Mapping<P>Z-buffering and Double-buffering<P>Emboss, Dot Product 3 and Environment bump mapping<P>Spherical, Dual-Paraboloid and Cubic environment mapping<P>Fog effects, texture lighting, video textures, reflections, shadows, spotlights, LOD biasing and texture morphing<P><BR>and more.... <BR>Exei kai kalyterous pixelshader apo thn geforce3.......emena mou ftanoune auta gia 3d To mono pou tha me xalage opws eipa kai prin einai oi drivers.....Oso gia thn kyro den eimai kai poly typos twn benchmark...pws paei sta paixnidia mou xerw, kai xerw oti sto UT, to red faction, to Aquanox (to demo toulaxiston) kai to Max Payne me 1024X768X32 kai max quality paei mia xara kai mou ftanei, apla anafera to dronez giati einai to katexoxhn geforce3-optimized benchmark. Vevaia de lew....mia Ti500 de tha me xalage katholou

[yositosi]

Filarako my8o$ opws eipa kai pio panw vitsia einai auta!! Opws tin vriskei kaneis

[TonyMontana]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MadSurfer:<BR><STRONG><P>Ama ginotan kai mia gf3 ti500!!!!!!!</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>E kai mia porsche ki ena skafaki kai eimaste ok

[spybol]

egw tha protinw ston filo an exei radeon DDR na in parei gf2 giati oi diafores einai mikres.. kai me 60-70.000 mono tetoia mporei na parei.. as perimenei ligo gia kati poly pio dynato gia na axizoun ta lefta pou tha dwsei..<P>OSO gia tin Ati mono mikrh etairia den einai.. malista mexri perisi htan No1 se meridio agoras afou oi fthines kartoules ths poulousan para poly eidika stis US. Epishs sxediase to chip tou nintendo gamecube..twra etoimazetai na bgalei kai chipset.. H nvidia deixnei (kai mporei na einai) ligo pio mprosta alla i ati mporese me tin radeon 8500 na tis apodeixei oti i gf3 (pou OLOI ma OLOI elegan oti exei texnologia xbox kai tipota den tin xtypaei klpklp) xtypietai anetotata.. gi ayto bghke i ti500 na xtyphsei tin radeon 8500 kai amesws i ati anebase tin radeon sta 275/275 na xtyphsei tin ti500..Tespa to mono prob einmai oti ayth tin stigm,h oi drivers tis ati den einai para poly dynatoi ayto omws nomizw oti poly syntoma tha diorthwthei.. EPISHS na sas thimisw oti otan bghke i geforce1 pou htan teleiws diaforetikh apo tin TNT2 i megalh nvidia ekane 6!!! mhnes na bgalei bug free drivers alla tote kaneis den fonaze, giati koitousan mono oti htan pio grhgorh kai oxi oti se polla games ebgaze xazomares.. Epishs sta thetika tis radeon einai i aristh apeikonhsh 2d (exei kai ramdac sta400) kathws kai i kataplhktikh poiothta sto dvd ths. I maxh einai poly dynath..<P>kai kati teleytaio ..Se polles nvidia gia logous kostous merikoi kataskeyastes bazoun fthina rf filtra stin exodo apeikonhshs kai einai ligo tholes.. An exeis megalo monitor tha to katalabeis.. To eixe pei kai i idia i nvidia.Opws epeishs i canopus i akriboterh nvidia exei kataplhktika filtra apeikonhshs..<P>gi ayto eidika i poly fthines nvidia, den exoun para poly kalh apeikonhsh..bebaia ayto einai sxetiko afou se tipota den einai asxhmh apla den pianei tis kalyteres..

[MadSurfer]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TonyMontana:<BR><STRONG>gia auto i pio fthini kai kali apo apopsi epidosewn lusi einai na klepsoume mia GF3 </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ama ginotan kai mia gf3 ti500!!!!!!!

[florina]

Apo oti epsaksa sta site ton katastimaton kataligo se 2 kartes:<BR>Pixelview gf2 ti 64ddr tv-out 61000 teliki apo ram-shop<BR>Leadtek gf2 ti 64ddr tv-out 67000 teliki apo microchip<BR>Ayrio tha pao na xtypiso mia apo tis 2 poia proteinete, ennow apo apopsi eterias giati exoun ta idia xaraktiristika.<BR>Ama exete na peite kapoia alli sta idia protipa to poly eos 75 ante meta bias 80000.<BR>Eyxaristo.

[yositosi]

I plaka einai oti kai apo pleuras apodosis kai oi dio einai idies. Vasika, apo tin stigmi pou prokeitai gia idies kartes pare opoia thes. Pantws apo pleuras cooling den kserw kata poso to sistima tis leadtek einai eksisou apodotiko me tis Pixelview. Apo pleuras poiotitas kserw oti den exw kanena parapono apo tin Pixelview. Oso gia tin Leadtek den eimai se thesi na sou pw giati den exw proswpiki empeiria (exei sovaro onoma stin agora apo oti kserw). Pantws gia emena sovaro kritirio einai to eksis: i marka tou tv-out. Diladi DEN tha sou simvouleua na pareis tv-out tis Chrontel giati isterei se poiotita apo to Conexant kai einai kai idiotropo(i dikia mou Pixelview exei to Chrontel 7007 - pantws rwta gia tin Geforce2 Ti giati mporei na ksanaevalan to Conexant opws ginotan stis prwtes ekdoseis tis dikis mou kartas). Episis koita ti marka einai oi mnimes kathws oi Winbond kai oi Ascend thewrountai pio overclockable apo tin Samsung, kai vevaia ta ns (nanoseconds) twn mnimwn kathws oso pio liga einai toso to kalitero gia dinatotita overclocking.

[Επισκέπτης]

Εγω παντα ημουν με την ΑΤΙ. Δε παιζω και πολλα παιχνιδια και με καλυπτει η (φοβερη αποδωση) που εχει (σε ολα τα υπολοιπα)<BR>Η σχεδιαση και κατασκευη της ειναι κορυφαια (πολυ ανωτερη ακομα και απο asus,creative) και πιστεψε με σηκωνει ΠΟΛΥ o/c (για οποιον γουσταρει.<BR>Δυστυχως εδω γινεται της μουρλης με τους αντιπροσωπους (blepe informatics) και ζητανε τη μανα τους και το πατερα τους για αυτες. Πχ η Wonder Radeon κοστιζε 135 χιλ οταν εξω πουλιοτανε 70 χιλ. Ξεφτυλα.<BR>Η ATI πασχιζει με νυχια και με δοντια να βελτιωθει στο θεμα drivers και να φτασει την Nvidia και πιστευω οτι συντομα θα εχουμε καλυτερο λογισμικο. Ηδη εδωσε σε OEM το radeon πραγμα που σημαινει οτι αναθεωρησε τη πολιτικη της.<BR>Σιγουρα πολλα παιχνιδια σχεδιαζονται γυρω απο τα gpu της nvidia (και συγκεκριμενα το ... ΤΝΤ2) αλλα αυτο που μου τη σπαει ειναι η τακτικη "microsoft" που εφαρμοζει. Δε καταλαβα για παραδειγμα τι ζορι τραβαγε και εθαβε το Kyro (μαλλον ολοι καταλαβαν ...)<BR>Τελος η ΑΤΙ εχει μια τεραστια αγορα στο χωρο των φορητων και δεν ειναι καθολου μικρη εταιρια οπως ανεφεραν καποιοι.<BR>Ο καιρος θα δειξει παντως και η επομενη καρτα μου θα ειναι ΑΤΙ (την 8500 radeon ζαχαρωνω - ειδατε τι κουβαλαει ??? για τιμες μη ρωτατε ομως !)<p>[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Tasos ]

[Nemo]

symfono me oti eipe o tasos kai i alli gia ti<BR>s ATI apla gia na exoume issoropimeni apopsi<BR>ithela na prostheso ta akolutha links<BR><A HREF="http://www.tech-report.com/etc/2001q4/radeon-q3/index.x?pg=1" TARGET=_blank>http://www.tech-report.com/etc/2001q4/radeon-q3/index.x?pg=1</A><P><BR>opou anaferei oti oi drivers exoun rythmistei oste otan trexoun to quake3 na to trexoun me sygkekrimena settings gia maximum fps .<BR>vevea ayta ta trik isos na isofarizoun to demaraz mia pou i nvidia exei eidiki metaxeirisi apo microsoft kai directx oso <BR>kai developers software ,an kai meta to (nforce chipset) kapoia pramata tha allaxoun.<BR>mia pou tora tha exei perissoterous kai isxiroterous antagonistes. <BR>Ta idia trick xrisimopoioysan kai oi drivers<BR>tis diamond viperz200(savage2000 )otan etrexes to 3dmark2000 ,to unrealtournament,<BR>kai t quake3 nomizo kai to mono pou eixes na<BR>kaneis gia na ayxiseis tin apodosi se ena paixnidi itan na allaxeis to *.exe executable se 3dmark2000.exe kai paei legontas ....<P> <BR><A HREF="http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/vidcards/ati/8500/quack/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/vidcards/ati/8500/quack/</A><p>[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: nemo ]

[rebel2000]

Paidia epeidi kai egw lew na allaksw karta grafikwn aytes oi pixelview kai oi paromoies tis akouw oti einai taxytates sta 3d paixnidia alla sta 2D kai sto 3D rendering einai eksisou kales?Emena kurios me endiaferei 2D apoikonisi kai na exei aksioprepeis epidoseis se 3D gia na paizw pou kai pou kai kana Colin...

[unforgiven]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rebel2000:<BR><STRONG> kai sto 3D rendering einai eksisou kales? </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Τι εννοείς με το 3d rendering;

[yositosi]

File rebel2000 exw tin entipwsi oti otan leme 3d epidoseis kai 3d rendering ennooume ena kai to idio pragma. Pantws epi tis ousias exw na sou pw ta eksis (mias kai exw mia pixelview opws fainetai kai sto signature mou):<BR>1) Einai vasismeni sto reference board tis NVidia<BR>2) Tin agorasa logw timis (ekeini tin epoxi then eixa fraga kai i MX itan ligi gia to pc mou) min exontas poli ipsiles prosdokies<BR>3) Me diepseuse 100% mias kai se OLA ta benchmarks paei gamiwntas exontas ises (an oxi kaliteres) epidoseis me tin antistixi ASUS i opoia einai 50% akrivoteri.<BR>4) Akolouthontas to reference board tis Nvidia (opws proanefera) exei cooler mono gia to GPU kai oxi gia tis mnimes... alla to cooler kai i psiktra apodixthikan IPERARKETA gia na min vrasei to Geforce2 Pro chip alla kai gia na tou traviksw kai ena overclocking<BR>5) Gia merikous meion tis kartas einai den sinodeuetai apo software para mono apo ena cd me tous drivers, kati pou den me polinoiazei mias kai iparxei to internet gia downloads kai cracks <BR>6) Enw sto review tou Ram elegan oti exei 64Mb mnimi tis Ascend alla otan tin pira eida oti tin allaksan me 64Mb tis Samsung (den kserw an einai kalitera i xeirotera - pantws allazontas to fan me ena megaliteris diametrou wste na varaei kai tis mnimes tis anevasa apo ta 400 sta 430Mhz)<BR>7) Sto idio review milaei gia Conexant tv-out alla to allaksan me to Chrontel 7007 (san tis ASUS) pou den kaliptetai apo ekdoseis tou TvTool prin tin 5.5 (tin vrika kai ola einai OK mias kai to simvato tvcc2000 einai gia NTSC sistimata)<BR>8) Apo poiotita kataskeuis fainetai para poli kali alla gia antoxi ston xrono den mporw na kserw mias kai einai poli nea montela stin agora (mexri twra paei poli kala kai aprovlimatista)<BR>9) Gia emena eidi exei kanei aposvesi.. mias kai i timi tis einai idia an oxi xamiloteri apo autin tis ASUS Geforce2 GTS me 32Mb... opote mporeis na krineis kai monos sou.<BR>Simperasmatika, me vasi ta stoixia pou exw mexri twra tha sou elega na trekseis na tin pareis oso tis exoun akoma ftines (polles etairies poulan stin arxi ftina gia na apoktisoun isxiri parousia stin agora kai meta apo ligo arxizoun na anevazoun tis times tous - opws px i MSI) i stin xeiroteri oso iparxoun apothemata <BR>Elpizw na voithisa file mou... gia opoia pereterw aporia edw eimaste... JUST ASK!

[Επισκέπτης]

Προς nemo : <BR>Ε ρε γλεντια με την ΑΤΙ !<BR>Λετε να εχουν προσλαβει τιποτε Ελληνες και στησαν το κολπο grosso ; (ασε και μολις ειδα το Μπραζιλειρο) <BR>Παντως αυτα κανει ο πολυς θορυβος για τα fps. Δε παιζετε και κανενα adventure καλυτερα, να μη σκατε.<BR>Εγω αυτο το καιρο ασχολουμαι με το Exile (Myst III) και ειναι το κατι αλλο. Εννοειται οτι εχω βγαλει και τα 2 πρωτα Myst και Riven.

[rebel2000]

Thanks yositosi!<BR>Nai ontws otan leme 3d rendering kai 3d epidoseis einai sxedon to idio...<BR>Apo 2d omws den mou eipes pws ta paei??Kalutera i xeirotera apo mia Asus i apo mia Matrox?<BR>Vlepeis egw eimai akoma me mia Matrox Mystique G200 mias kai apo pleura 2D me kaluptei mia xara(Aytos itan kai o logos pou tin agorasa prin xronia).<BR>Alla me ola ayta pou vgikan ton teleutaio kairo mpika kai egw ston peirasmo na tin allaksw...

[yositosi]

File mou oti sou eipa gia tis 3d epidoseis isxiei kai gia tis 2d!