The official *Pro Evolution Soccer 2008* topic || Next-gen version ( PS3/X360 )

[Blackjim]

Update 24/7/07

 

WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - News/Discussions Official Thread

News :

- AI new system named "Teamvision"

- Alot of new animations

- New wall system (number of players)

- PC version is Next Gen too

- Amazing facial animations

- Edit Mode special for Next Gen

- Kits that flow and crease as the players run around.

- Watermarks from sweat and rain appear on the player as the game continues.

- Shirt pulling

- Cut Scenes in Pubs

- Bench with subs and coach

- Bench reaction during the game

- You can see the stadium from outside

- C.Ronaldo on the cover of the game

- Michael Owen on the UK cover

- Diving

- Gameplay and passing faster

- Shooting is better/harder

- No more blackscreen after a foul

- Playerprofil with statistics.

- More and better lifelike animations

- More detailed playermodels

- Untucked shirts

- Full 3D fans

- Amazing collisions

- GoalKeepers very realistic

- New Menu more simple with blue world map on the background

- No more scripts, better control of the player

- The ball physique look more heavy

- GoalKeeper can up for corner

- Moving hairs

- New slide tackle

- Didier Drogba and C.Ronaldo on the French cover of the game

- Drogba/C.Ronaldo move

 

 

 

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18/6

 

 

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/797/797221p1.html

 

Konami Unveils Pro Evo 2008

First screens and info point to the most realistic footie game yet.

 

Konami has lifted the lid on the first details for the next Pro Evo game and has promised that it will be "the closest simulation of real football to date." Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (working title) will be released on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PC, PS2, PSP and DS later this year and boasts what Konami is calling "a revolution in player artificial intelligence" -- dubbed Teamvision, which enables the opposition to learn your style of player and adapt their tactics accordingly.

 

According to Konami, Teamvision will totally change the way PES fans play the game, because the adaptive AI forces players to constantly rethink their tactics. So, for example, if you prefer to run the ball down the wing and knock in a cross to a tall centre forward like Peter Crouch, your opponent will quickly change their tactics to close down the wide players and mark your hitmen more heavily. Similarly, if your favoured method of defence is to protect the back four with a sweeper -- then the other team will quickly pick up on this and change their attackers to take advantage of your formation.

 

Naturally the effectiveness of an opponent's change in tactics depends on the team they're playing as: strong international and club squads will be able to counter your tactics faster and more effectively than less skilled clubs, although players will still notice the change in their opponents play if they resort to using the same channels of attack. Likewise, powerful teams can also punish lazy tactical play to devastating effect, so if you lose the ball in your half to Robbie Keane there's a good chance he'll score. However, lose out to a less proficient striker and the odds of them converting the shot are less favourable.

 

The improved AI changes the way the game is played almost on every level, forcing players to take a much wider view of the game and real use the full width and breadth of their team. As such the pitch scanner plays a much bigger part in the game because it enables players to pick out openings in the defence (if they're skilled enough, obviously) and thread a ball through to an advancing attacker.

 

Teamvision affects set-plays as well as free play too. Cheap free kicks are a thing of the past because the opposing defence will close down runs faster, which prevents players from passing a ball into the box and tapping a shot in from short range. Naturally there are times when you will scorean easy goal, whether it's from a well-worked passing move or a fizzing direct free kick, but the enchanced AI now means players must think more if they want to consistantly win.

 

Other improvements promised for PES 2008 includes improved greater close control, so there's more scope for skilled dribbling, tricks and neat inter-player passing moves. Setting up a free-kick isn't quick as restrictive either, whether you're defending or attacking. You can change the number of players in the wall if you're defending or, if you're on the attacking, plan runs more intricately and position specific target men for the kicker to aim for.

 

However, the most noticeable improvement PES 2008 will offer over its predecessors (apart from Teamvision of course) is the graphics. Konami promises it will be a true next-gen experience, so there will be proper facial animations, shirt pulling and kits that flow and crease as the players run around. Watermarks from sweat and rain appear as the game continues too, bringing the player that bit closer to the action than ever before. All next-gen versions will feature a fully functional edit mode too -- something that was sorely lacking from last year's 360 version of PES 6 -- so players can create there own team and or edit existing ones. As yet there's no word on which licensed teams will feature or indeed what online modes we can expect.

 

"We have taken a long hard look at what has made the Pro Evolution Soccer series so popular, and where we want to take it next," commented Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka, creator of the series and Producer of PES 2008. "With the new Teamvision AI system, we truly believe that we have elevated the game to a new level. The movement of players off the ball, coupled with the total control given to the player, creates the closest simulation of real football to date. We really hope everyone enjoys our evolution. I promise it will be worth the wait." We certainly hope so.

 

We'll bring you more information on PES 2008 in the coming weeks. For now feast on these screenshots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Επισκέπτης]

Για να δουμε ...θα βγω αληθινος παλι στις προβλεψεις μου για τα WE-PES:mrgreen:? :-P

 

στο evo-web λενε εντωμεταξυ(οπως ειδες)οτι θα ειναι τρεις φορες καλυτερο στο ps3:mrgreen: :-P

ε,ενταξει αυτο μουφα πρεπει να ειναι.

ενας σοβαρος ανθρωπος δυσκολο να αναφερει ''3 φορες'',θα μπορουσε να πει απλα οτι θα ειναι καλυτερη η εκδοση για ps3.

[Blackjim]

Για να δουμε ...θα βγω αληθινος παλι στις προβλεψεις μου για τα WE-PES:mrgreen:? :-P

 

στο evo-web λενε εντωμεταξυ(οπως ειδες)οτι θα ειναι τρεις φορες καλυτερο στο ps3:mrgreen: :-P

ε,ενταξει αυτο μουφα πρεπει να ειναι.

ενας σοβαρος ανθρωπος δυσκολο να αναφερει ''3 φορες'',θα μπορουσε να πει απλα οτι θα ειναι καλυτερη η εκδοση για ps3.

To pali pou paei??

 

 

E eides? Eipa oti tha akousoume polles moufes.

Pws vgazeis ena game dld 3 fores kalytero? To metrise me ti dld? :mrgreen:

 

Btw , to rumor einai to eksis:

RUMOURS Rumours on Winning Eleven 11

 

1) It envisages a capacity of more than 18Go. current rendered modeling capacity is 10GB.

2) 60 image/seconds ( fps ennoei ypothetw . Na thymisoume oti sto x360 kataferan na to kanoun na sernetai otan eixe pollous paixtes mazi! :twisted: twra leei tha einai kai 60 fps... )

3) online for PS3, Xbox360, PC, PS2 but not for the Wii version. (PES7 certainly)

4) Trés large difference between version PS3 and XBOX360. version PS3 is better. perhaps three times better.

5) my source it is KONAMI insider.

 

And it confirms the remake of FF7 on PS3

 

http://blog.naver.com/NBlogMain.nhn?blogId=bsssksk&Redirect=Dlog&Qs=/bsssksk/100036949534

 

 

18 GB to PES leei... ti tha valoun mesa dld!?!?

Pragmatika i lene treles mlkies i tha koufathoume teleiws...

[Επισκέπτης]

To pali pou paei??

 

παει...αρκετους μηνες πριν,οταν εσυ ειχες ποσταρει την πρωτη εικονα απο το pes6 για 360,και εγω ειχα πει οτι θα ειναι μεταφορα απο την εκδοση του ps2(το καταλαβα αμεσως απο την φωτο)εσυ δεν επεμεινες πολυ(ειχες πει μονο οτι ο seabass ειπε οτι θα βασιστει σε αυτην την εκδοση η συνεχεια της σειρας),αλλα οι περισσοτεροι με εκραζαν και με εβγαλαν sony fanboy:mrgreen:

http://www.insomnia.gr/vb3/showthread.php?p=1250099#post1250099

 

E eides? Eipa oti tha akousoume polles moufes.

Pws vgazeis ena game dld 3 fores kalytero? To metrise me ti dld? :mrgreen:

 

αν βασιστουν πανω στον cell τοτε ναι για μενα ειναι πιθανο να ειναι καλυτερη η εκδοση για ps3,αλλα οχι οσον αφορα τα γραφικα.

απλα 3 φορες ακουγετε και ειναι βλακεια.

[Blackjim]

παει...αρκετους μηνες πριν,οταν εσυ ειχες ποσταρει την πρωτη εικονα απο το pes6 για 360,και εγω ειχα πει οτι θα ειναι μεταφορα απο την εκδοση του ps2(το καταλαβα αμεσως απο την φωτο)εσυ δεν επεμεινες πολυ(ειχες πει μονο οτι ο seabass ειπε οτι θα βασιστει σε αυτην την εκδοση η συνεχεια της σειρας),αλλα οι περισσοτεροι με εκραζαν και με εβγαλαν sony fanboy:mrgreen:

http://www.insomnia.gr/vb3/showthread.php?p=1250099#post1250099

Diladi pisteveis oti twra tha doume kati to teleiws neo pou den tha exei sxesi me ta proigoumena WE/PES?

 

De to pistevw.

Kalytero isws. Toso diaforetiko omws , xlwmo to vlepw.

Fysika makari na exeis dikio

 

 

αν βασιστουν πανω στον cell τοτε ναι για μενα ειναι πιθανο να ειναι καλυτερη η εκδοση για ps3,αλλα οχι οσον αφορα τα γραφικα.

απλα 3 φορες ακουγετε και ειναι βλακεια.

Ti na pw , 10+ xronia einai tempelides. Les mesa se ~2 xronia na vgaloun kai tosa pramata apo ton Cell?

 

kai pali xlwmo to vlepw , alla makari na ginei kai na me diapsefsoun :mrgreen:

[Επισκέπτης]

Diladi pisteveis oti twra tha doume kati to teleiws neo pou den tha exei sxesi me ta proigoumena WE/PES?

 

De to pistevw.

Kalytero isws. Toso diaforetiko omws , xlwmo to vlepw.

Fysika makari na exeis dikio

 

πιστευω οτι το μελλον του pes-we δεν ειναι αυτο που ειδαμε στο 360 αλλα σιγουρα κατι πολυ καλυτερο.

Για την επομενη εκδοση φοβαμαι λιγο διοτι θα βγει και στο ps2...

αλλα για το μελλον της σειρας δεν φοβαμαι καθολου.

 

Ti na pw , 10+ xronia einai tempelides. Les mesa se ~2 xronia na vgaloun kai tosa pramata apo ton Cell?

 

kai pali xlwmo to vlepw , alla makari na ginei kai na me diapsefsoun :mrgreen:

 

Εγω θα ηθελα να χρησιμοποιησουν τον cell για να δουμε τις δυνατοτητες του(στο gameplay)

ακομα ομως και αν δεν τον χρησιμοποιησουν καθολου,παλι ειμαι αισιοδοξος οτι θα δουμε μεγαλες διαφορες στο μελλον απο την σειρα.

 

ΥΓ.καλα μην περιμενεις και επανασταση,:-P :-P αλλα την διαφορα απο το ps1 στο ps2 ας πουμε.

[john2gr]

RUMOURS Rumours on Winning Eleven 11

 

1) It envisages a capacity of more than 18Go. current rendered modeling capacity is 10GB.

2) 60 image/seconds ( fps ennoei ypothetw . Na thymisoume oti sto x360 kataferan na to kanoun na sernetai otan eixe pollous paixtes mazi! twra leei tha einai kai 60 fps... )

3) online for PS3, Xbox360, PC, PS2 but not for the Wii version. (PES7 certainly)

4) Trés large difference between version PS3 and XBOX360. version PS3 is better. perhaps three times better.

5) my source it is KONAMI insider.

 

And it confirms the remake of FF7 on PS3

 

Ρε κοίτα να δεις που από την Konami (που λέει τάχα μου ότι είναι τα infos του) ξαφνικά πήδηξε και στην Square Enix/Squaresoft. Χαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχα κι εγώ μαζί του .Die hards fanboys will never die

[kallair]

πιστευω οτι το μελλον του pes-we δεν ειναι αυτο που ειδαμε στο 360 αλλα σιγουρα κατι πολυ καλυτερο.

Για την επομενη εκδοση φοβαμαι λιγο διοτι θα βγει και στο ps2...

αλλα για το μελλον της σειρας δεν φοβαμαι καθολου.

 

kai egw to eixa pei oti i ekdosi pou eixe vgei gia to 360 tha itan aplws ena port you ps2 me kalitera grafika k mono pou den me eixan litzarei merikoi edw mesa. krima pou eixa epivevaiothei...

 

den me fovizei emena pantws to gegonos oti tha bgei sto ps2. k o logos einai to wii... logika tha ftiaksoun k mia "kommeni" ekdosi tou paixnidiou eidika gia ps2/wii.i next gen ekdosi den nomizw na exei kamia sxesi me tin ps2... min sou pw oti sto ps2/wii tha xrisimopoiisoun tin mixani tou proigoumenou pes alla me kapoies prosthikes...

[p3tran]

...εγω ακουσα οτι το pro 7 θα ειναι 7 φορες καλυτερο στο ps3. οπως ολα αλλωστε..

[SOP1HOLI]

According to a Konami insider, the forthcoming PS3 version of Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007, will have a massive quality gap over the Xbox 360 version.

 

It will also be running at 60 FPS, have online play and take up over 18GB, no doubt making full use of the enhanced capacity of Blu-ray.

[Επισκέπτης]

kai egw to eixa pei oti i ekdosi pou eixe vgei gia to 360 tha itan aplws ena port you ps2 me kalitera grafika k mono pou den me eixan litzarei merikoi edw mesa. krima pou eixa epivevaiothei...

 

Την πρωτη φορα που το ειπα(στο link που εδωσα) δεν μου ειπαν τιποτα αλλα αρκετες σελιδες μετα οταν το επανελαβα εγινε χαμος ''που το στηριζεις αυτο'' ''για να το λες εισαι fanboy'' και κατι τετοια.

Τωρα που τα ξανακοιταξα ειδα οτι μου την ξαναπεπεσαν ολοι(με ειπε fanboy ακομα και ο συνηθως αντικειμενικος xrest) οταν ειπα οτι η αποκλειστικοτητα για το 360 θα ισχυει μεχρι τα χριστουγεννα του 2006(που οπως γνωριζουμε αποδειχθηκε οτι ετσι ηταν)και οχι για ολο το 2007

 

και για να μην παρεξηγηθω αυτην την φορα,εγω υποστηριζω μονο οτι το μελλον

του pes θα ειναι καλο,δεν λεω δηλαδη οτι το pes του ps3 θα ειναι καλυτερο,αυτα ειναι μονο φημες...

[desolatorXT]

ελπιζω να ειναι η ιδια μαπα, με τα όλα τα προηγούμενα PES....

 

To PES, ειναι ο καλύτερος εξομοιωτής ποδοσφαίρου σήμερα, αλλα δεν πάυει να είναι ένα άθλιο Game μέσα στα bugs και τα προβλήματα...

[Blackjim]

According to a Konami insider, the forthcoming PS3 version of Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007, will have a massive quality gap over the Xbox 360 version.

 

It will also be running at 60 FPS, have online play and take up over 18GB, no doubt making full use of the enhanced capacity of Blu-ray.

Nai , auto eipame ki emeis pio panw.

 

 

 

Pantws des pws mia "eidisi" apo kapoion , vgainei pantou...

 

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163859

 

PES 07 three times better on PS3 says "Konami insider"

 

Monday 14-May-2007 10:32 AM The PS3 version to be noticeably superior to the 360 offering, rumours suggest

We remain sceptical that the difference, if there is any, will be noticeable. Time will tell.

A supposed Konami insider has posted claims on a Korean games forum that the upcoming Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 will be noticeably better on PS3 than on 360.

 

The post, which appeared on Ruliweb (and translated here), claims that the PS3 version of everybody's favourite footy sim will receive huge enhancements afforded by the large capacity of the Blu-Ray format.

 

The game is said to use 18GB of space on the disc (Xbox 360's dual-layer DVDs offer 7GBs of usable storage space).

 

The post also claims that the PS3 version's 60fps frame-rate will better that of the 360.

 

Pantws einai unfair , anti na lene "PES7 3 times better than PES6" na to pane se kontra x360/ps3... ( kala , to "3 times better" vevaia idi akougetai xazo )

 

Les kai oi dynatotites tou 360 fanikan me tin patata pou evgalan persi ( to pes6 ).

 

eukairia vriskoun merikoi merikoi :twisted::twisted::twisted: :mrgreen:

[Blackjim]

Την πρωτη φορα που το ειπα(στο link που εδωσα) δεν μου ειπαν τιποτα αλλα αρκετες σελιδες μετα οταν το επανελαβα εγινε χαμος ''που το στηριζεις αυτο'' ''για να το λες εισαι fanboy'' και κατι τετοια.

Τωρα που τα ξανακοιταξα ειδα οτι μου την ξαναπεπεσαν ολοι(με ειπε fanboy ακομα και ο συνηθως αντικειμενικος xrest) οταν ειπα οτι η αποκλειστικοτητα για το 360 θα ισχυει μεχρι τα χριστουγεννα του 2006(που οπως γνωριζουμε αποδειχθηκε οτι ετσι ηταν)και οχι για ολο το 2007

Auto dld pws apodeixthike???

 

Eixan pei oti i next-gen version ( o theos na tin kanei ) tou PES tha itan x360 exclusive. Kai mexri stigmis dld einai... :???:

Etsi den einai?

[xrest]

Οταν ο ιδιος o seabass λεει οτι το pes6 του 360 ειναι η βαση για τις next gen εκδοσεις,προσωπικα δεν περιμενω να δω τεραστιες αλλαγες.απλα τα πραματα.κ δε προκειται να σχολιασω οτιδηποτε αλλο πριν δω η ακουσω κατι απο επισημη πηγη...