MSI kai thermokrasia se PIII

[MY80-]

Sorry pou epemvainw alla prepei na yperaspistw to cpu mou. Ehem, thema sygrishs den tithetai kan metaxy duron kai p3. Oi adagwnistes tou duron einai o celeron kai o cyrix, o p3 einai se poly anwtero epipedo. Oson afora ton TB leei mono ton pareis apo kana gnwsto kai xereis to serial dioti oi monoi TBs pou kanoun OC einai oi AVIA, AXIA kai otan vgei (ama vgei pote) o AZIA. Einai poly megalo risko na pareis mobo gia athlon phgenontas gia overclock (px Abit KT7a). Poses pithanothtes exeis na sou tyxei o swstos? Elaxistes. Oson vevaia afora to 165 fsb einai arketa ypshlo. Sto agp pes oti meiwneis to Command FIFO kai ftiaxnei alla prepei na exeis poly ebisto exoplismo (kai eidika sklhro, MHN SKEFTEIS KAN NA VALEIS WD SE TETOIO FSB, klatarei sta 145-150, ama exeis IBM kati ginetai). Ante kai me to kalo to OC kai ama petyxeis rixe mas kana bench.

[placid]

sibi giati sto parelthon me sena eixa kapoia problimata tha zitousa na ginei i sizitisi opos tora kai na min yparxoun iscyroteroi tonoi .. tora oson afora to duron-celeron to idio pianoune .. aplos o men celeron exei apisteyta xamilo memory bandwidth..kai 2on .. giati les oti se symferei?? to benchmark pou edoses apotelei meionektima gia ton pentium logo tou fsb .. edaxei omos to paradexomia ston tomea ayto nikate .. tha doso omos kati allo .. se ayto to benchmark to i815 apodidei arista .. (an etiaxne i intel chipset gia amd tha eixe kleisei to tmima cpu tis intel tespa) .. <A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q2/000605/t-bird-08.html" TARGET=_blank>benchmarks</A> einai idioi .. ti trogeste ?? thema to thema den einai ayto .. bye all !

[Sibi]

anonyme se teleios filiko klima,sorry pou to ksanalew,alla pali sigrineis anomoia pragmata:sigrineis i815 me kt133,enw kanonika tha eprepe na sto sigrineis me to kt133a.ke kati pou mporei na min ksereis:me to kt133a to bus ton amd mporei na anevei para poly,enw me to palio kt133 to bus pigene to poli sta 110mhz.afta<P>MY8O$-->Ehem signomi alla kaneis kapoio lathos: o duron proorizotan gia antagonistis tou celeron,alla telika vgike poli pio grigoros apo ton celeron ke elaxista pio argos apo ton antistoixis sixnotitas p3.einai pio argos men alla elaxista pio argos ke afto apodikniete kathos ola ta benchmarks se para polla sites sto internet alla ke se sigrisi me filous mou me p3, afto deixnoun, adiamfisvitita.tora gia sigrisi me VIA cyrix den tithete thema,aftoi ine pio argoi akoma ke apo Celeron!<BR>Oloi oi T-bird ginonte overclock,apla oi AXIA ke oi AVIA ginonte perissotero overclock apo alles seires,ine kathara thema partidas epeksergaston.aftos ine o logos pou exei ginei fasaria me tous AXIA,giati theorounte i kaliteri partida.den iparxei thunderbird pou na min ginete overclock,to thema ine poso ginonte!<BR>Oson afora to thema skliron-overclock,egw eixa mexrin prin 1 vdomada 2 western digital,ekana overclock ke pigena se trella fsb xoris kanena apolitos provlima.proti fora akouw afto pou les,den to'xw ksanakousi,den mou exei simvei pote ke prosopika pistevo pos den isxiei.<BR>afta ta oliga...<p>[ 04-06-2001: Message edited by: Sibi ]

[placid]

koita sibi .. doste kai sis me to AMD 750 .. alla kalitero theoreite to VIA .. tespa .. giati na mi doso benchmark me to i815 ?? afou stin ousia to ASUS CUV4X me 133A exei idia timi me to MSI i815 EP Pro .. tote ?? pou kollame ??

[Sibi]

to kalitero ine to AMD 762 pros to paron.sto eipa epeidi sigrines ena pio kenourio chipset me ena pio palio (i815 me to kt133) anyway,no prob...

[placid]

sibi de leo oti o pentium einai grigoroteros an kai kapios pou den exei epignosi blepontas to bench pou edosa ayto tha nomize .. leo oti einai apolitos idioi .. se kapoia themata tora ysterei o 1 kai se alla o allos .. px .. oi amd fimizontai oti den einai kaloi sto photoshop eno oi intel sto 3d studio max.. tespa bye !

[MY80-]

Sibi--->Sorry lathos mou, den ennoousa oti den kanoun katholou OC osoi den einai AXIA h AVIA alla oti den kanoun kalo OC px opws kanoun oi p3. Enas nonAXIA TB sta 1200 to poly na piasei 1350 ante 1400 (kai poly lew) enw oi p3 boroun na piasoun poly megalytero pososto se sxesh me thn arxikh tous taxythta. Osi gia tous duron, enas p3 xiliarhs se 150-160fsb borei na xeperasei kai ton adistoixo athlon se merika shmeia kai tha einai isos me to duron? Xlwmo to vlepw ektws an yponoeis oti o Athlon einai isos me to Duron. Btw, to trelo fsb pou anafereis poso einai giati emena ta paizei sta 150.

[placid]

167 FSB .. aplolita stathero .. 800@1002 .. ti lete ?? Abit BE6-II fopped, 489/541 sto sandra .. dystyxos ston filo mou de to exo dosei to Sysmark na dokimasei kai anotera giati oute go to diatheto ..

[MY80-]

Den exeis adiko se arxika toso pshla numera alla milaw gia nonB p3 (autous me to pshlo multi kai to xamhlo fsb ) Exw dei 650ari na ftanei 1200 (100%OC vevaia htan me watercooling) alla ton diko mou ton exw sta 866 apo 650 gia na paizw UT (den paizei me nondefault voltage) alla ftanei 960 aneta kai postarei sta 975 (den exw dokimasei parapanw akoma kai mallon de bootarei win giati ta paizei h o sklhros h h northbridge, tha ths valw kana fan kai tha dw). Apo 650 se 960 einai 300Mhz kai sxedon 50% OC. Tetoio pososto akoma kai oi AXIA dyskoleyontai para poly na ftasoun kai an to ftasoun me air h watercooling. Vasika padws de lew oti ypo kanonikes synthhkes o p3 ftanei ton tb kai 167 den einai kanonikes synthhkes gia mena. Fysika vevaia kai ton nikas giati oi AMD xeskizoun se memory band, ama omws vrei HSDRAM kalhs poiothtas kai adexei 167@Cas2@Turbo access tote synagwnizetai ton TB aneta. Oson afora to OC twn aplon TB (nonAXIA) enas gnostos mou exei enan sto 1 gig kai den einai stable oute se 1200 (kt133 exei, se ligo pou tha parei thn kt133a tha dw kai tha sou pw). De lew vevaia apo apopsh xrhmatwn/apodoshs exeis dikio...

[placid]

as pesei ena memory benchmarks me athlon 800 ..

[Sibi]

aftoi oi p3 ontos itan poli kaloi gia overclock.me proxorimenes methodous psiksis petixenonte ontos trella overclock.ti ennoeis "den pezei me nondefault voltage"?den pezei ke poli rolo poso post kanei enas cpu,alla sta posa mhz maximum ine 100% statheros.gia paradeigma ke mena o 700aris duron mou exei kanei post sta 1128 alla 100%statheros ine mono mexri ta 1080!gia na testareis an ine statheros o cpu otan ine overclocked iparxei ena programma pou ton stressarei sto maximum ke deixnei an ine statheros i oxi.episis ena kalo test statherostitas ine to 3dmark 2001 se poli varia settings:megaliteri analisi,megalitero vathos xromatos,triple buffer,antialising enabled ktl.o gnostos sou exei kseklidosei ton tbird tou?giati an den to exei kanei ine logiko na min mporei na ftasei ipsiles sixnotites,kthos to kt133 paei to poli 112 mhz bus stathero.pezei rolo vevea ke to cooler pou exei,egw gia paradeigma exw ena arketa dinato,to alpha pal6035.an exei kana coooler ap'afta pou vazoune sto plaiso,tote logiko ine na min mporei na ftasei poli ipsiles taxitites.

[placid]

ayto pou leo me fop (137 fsb) .. koitaxte .. 160 epiana ego me mama psixi me VIA Apolo Pto 133A .. fadasou to BX ..

[Sibi]

167 fsb?pentium III 800@1002?mono 489/541 sto Sandra???<BR>Duron 700@1035 138 FSB mono me a7v133 sto Sandra:543/617 . oi arithmoi ta lene ola...<P>MY80$-->kaneis lathos: oi p3 DEN kanoun kalo overclock.to exw dei ke se allous prosopika.opos vlepeis ke stin periptosi tou anonymus,ton p3 800 ton exei sta 1002,diladi 202mhz parapanw.o duron mou ine 700aris ke doulevei stathera sta 1080,diladi 380mhz parapanw!prosopika ine to megalitero stathero overclock panw apo tin ergostasiaki sixnotita tou cpu pou exw dei pote,me normal tropous psiksis.(gia na min anafero oti kanei post mexri ta 1128).oi tb 1,2 anevenoun stadar sta 1400,merikes partides pane ke parapanw opos oi axia oi opoioi pane stade akoma parapanw.me amd exeis dinatotita allagis pollaplasiasti alla ke bus:afto simenei oti exeis polles perissoteres dianatotites epitixous overclock,se antithesi me tous p3 stous opoios mporeis na allakseis mono to fsb,ke gia na tous pas psila prepei na exeis fovera kali mnimi ke poli anthektikes kartes,giati anevenoun ke oi sixnotites tis pci ke tis agp,ke prokalounte kollimata,akoma iparxei ke risko na kaoun oi kartes!otan les enas p3 sta 150-160fsb ennoeis fisika overclocked.gia kane overclock ke ton athlon omos tote na deis.ke o duron akoma,p.x o dikos mou einai 700aris ke overclocked ine se polla simeia pio grigoros apo ton xiliari p3.<BR>to thema ine oti pio poli overclockarizonte oi athlon ke oi duron para oi p3.ke to pio sosto ine na sigrineis omoia pragamata.sigrine tbird 800ari,p3 800ari ke duron 800ari.tha vgaleis to eksis apotelesma se benchmarks:1os me dia fora o tbird,defteros o p3 ke tritos alla me mikri diafora apo ton deftero o duron...<BR>einai pragmata pou exw dei prosopika ke exw testarei ke den exw kanena simferon,apla panta vazw sto pc mou oti pio grigoro me tin katallili analogia xrimaton/apodosis fisika.prosopiki mou apopsi.afta ta oliga

[MY80-]

Sorry den katalaves kala, o cpu einai statherotatos kai sta 960 alla to Unreal tournament den trexei para mono se default voltage (mh me rwtas giati). To 3mark2k1 eixe provlhmam me th voodoo mou alla kai to palio kalo SETI thn kanei thn douleia. Kai nai, o gnostos mou ton exei xekleidwsei kai exei fop38, den exei provlhma apo temp. To megisto pou exei kataferei na einai stable o cpu tou einai 1216 alla exei provlhmata me th NIC ekei kai to exei katevasei...Anonymous, borw na soy vrw bench athlon 800 se kt133a alla meta tis exetaseis. Ama boreis na perimeneis...

[Sibi]

me sigxoreis alla den ine statherotatos ama den trexei sta 960 to unreal ke to 3d mark.216mhz panw den einai ke asxima alla mporei na paei ke parapanw.exei peiraksi to voltage tou cpu?den ofelei panta na to exei sto terma,mporei kserw gw na min ine statheros se mia x ipsili sixnotita me 1,85 core alla na einai statheros me 1,75.simvenei kammia fora.pantos egw otan pira mobo me to kt133a mporesa na ton paw poli pio panw ap'oti me to kt133<p>[ 06-06-2001: Message edited by: Sibi ]