AMD Athlon XP 2800+ problhma!!

[pap5mhla]

Paides boh8eia,

 

Allaksa apo AMD Athlon XP 2000+ se AMD Athlon XP 2800+ (family 6, model 10) kai exw problhma:

 

Den kserw ti FSB exei (266MHz h' 333MHz). Pws to blepw?

To problhma einai pws to apotuxhmeno motherboard mou den uposthrizei tautoxrona FSB 333MHz kai DDR400. Opote 8a ton balw sto blender...

 

Eida pws an ton treksw sta 1.67GHz (ligotero dhladh) mporw na balw tis mnhmes mou sta 400. An anti8eta ton treksw sta 2.08GHz, pou einai kai h kanonikh tou taxuthta oi mnhmes pane mono mexri ta 333. Yparxei ena jumperaki pou epitrepei, an tou allakseis 8esh, na paei perissotero reuma sto CPU....na to peiraksw?

 

Exw:

AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Socket A (462)

Motherboard ASUS A7V8X-X me bios 1013 (to pio kainourio einai beta)

Mnhmes 2x512 OCZ DDR400

 

Se periptwsh pou einai FSB 333MHz kai den mporw na treksw tis mnhmes se 400, einai kalutero na exw 1.67GHz kai mnhmes 400 h' 2.08GHz kai mnhmes 333, apo pleuras taxuthtas?

 

Euxaristw!

[Powerline]

Σύμβωνα με ένα ελαφρύ search που έκανα στο Google, ο Athlon που έχεις έχει FSB στα 333Mhz. Τώρα για τα παρακάτω, λογικά καλύτερο είναι το δεύτερο, όχι τόσο απο άποψη ταχύτητας, αλλά απο άποψη σταθερότητας συστήματος. Αλλά, αν περιμένεις λίγο, θα λάβεις αρκετές βοηθητικές απαντήσεις και απο άλλα μέλη.

[Delirium]

Den kserw ti FSB exei (266MHz h' 333MHz)

 

>> 333MHz 8)

 

 

To problhma einai pws to apotuxhmeno motherboard mou

 

>> File, i sygkekrimeni mitriki einai mia xara, believe me!

Vevaia exo tin deluxe ekdosi, alla den mporei i "apli" na einai toso kommeni...

 

 

den uposthrizei tautoxrona FSB 333MHz kai DDR400

 

>> Eisai sigouros gi' afto? Diladi, oti 400ares mnimes kai na tou valeis, tis vlepei os 333MHz mono? Den exei katholou epilogi sto bios gia 400 :?:

Se emena me -Sempron 3000, peripou antistoxos tou 2800- dinei epilogi kai gia DDR400, akomi stis/me 333ares ram epano, opos ton exo tora.

Vevaia an dokimaso na valo tis 333@400 den paizei giati kollane standar, opos einai fysiologiko....

 

 

Eida pws an ton treksw sta 1.67GHz (ligotero dhladh) mporw na balw tis mnhmes mou sta 400. An anti8eta ton treksw sta 2.08GHz, pou einai kai h kanonikh tou taxuthta oi mnhmes pane mono mexri ta 333

 

>> Mou fainetai "koufo", alla se pistevo! Exoun dei polla ta matia mou....

 

Yparxei ena jumperaki pou epitrepei, an tou allakseis 8esh, na paei perissotero reuma sto CPU....na to peiraksw?

 

>> Kalytera oxi, mporeis na to kaneis kai apo to bios, alla den xreiazesai cpu overclocking.

 

 

Se periptwsh pou einai FSB 333MHz kai den mporw na treksw tis mnhmes se 400, einai kalutero na exw 1.67GHz kai mnhmes 400 h' 2.08GHz kai mnhmes 333, apo pleuras taxuthtas?

 

>> Dixos 2i skepsi 2.08GHz kai mnhmes sta 333. H diafora metaxy 333 kai 400 DDR, einai safos poly mikroteri, apo tin diafora ton 400 [ ] MHz stous Athlon XP.

 

Den tha xaseis pano apo 5% me ram sta 333. Dokimase omos kai to exis:

stin deluxe toulaxiston, to bios dinei epilogi kai gia overclocking tis mnimis!

Etsi px me ena +20% apo/sta 333 tis douleveis akrivos sta 400MHz. Den tha exoun logika kanena provlima -afou einai 400ares- kai i douleia sou tha ginei kanonika, esto kai plagios 8)

[sotakas]

stous amd einai kalitera oi mnimes na douleuoun stin sixnotita tou fsb tou epexergasti:) epomenos oxi apla den xaneis allla einai kai kalitera:)

[Delirium]

Den eimai sigouros, oti afto isxyei kai gia tous [palioterous] Athlon XP, opos symvainei stous amesos metagenesterous 64 :roll:

 

Stous XP exei diafora DDR 333-400, alla mikri ~5%, oxi 20%, opos antistoixei stin diafora syxnotitas tous !...!

An telika to bios den exei epilogi gia overclocking, mporeis na tis douleveis sta 333MHz, alla me kalytera-sfixtotera timings, den mporei na min exei epilogi oute gi' afto

[kx5]

Έχω έναν AthlonXP 2800+ που τρέχει στα 2083ΜΗz με FSB 333MHz.

Οι μνήμες είναι 2X 256MB 400MHz (dual channel λειτουργία) και τρέχουν στα 333MHz. Στα 400 βγάζουν προβλήματα.

[sotakas]

Delirium min epimeneis

[Delirium]

Ego simeiono kati pragmatiko: oti vlepo apo to bios epilogi gia 400MHz DDR, kai malista mporo na tin oriso, ara os epilogi yfistatai paides, asxetos DDR 333....

 

Apo kei kai pera, ti akrivos ginetai me DDR400 den gnorizo, -ypirxe megali diafora timis paliotera kai den exo valei 400ares- mporei na tis dexetai kanonika, mporei kai oxi

 

Alla se kathe periptosi, an yparxei epilogi gia overclocking ton mnimon sto bios tis aplis A7V8X, mporei na tous dosei ena 20% kai na doulevoun sta 400. Ypotheto, oti exei to idio apotelesma

 

Alla kai sta 333 na tis exei logika -efoson "xalaronoun" poly etsi- mporei na sfixei ta timings ikanopoiitika, den mas eipe na einai kai se dual channel, opote to vlepo efkolo!

[pap5mhla]

Paides euxaristw gia thn boh8eia.

 

Apo oti eida kai egw, telika ontws den paizei na doulepsei mazi to 2088MHz kai DDR sta 400. Einai periorismos tou motherboard. Dhladh molis balw th CPU se 2083MHz to option tou 400 xanetai apo tis mnhmes.

 

Oi mnhmes einai zeugari OCZ 2x512 (apo oti katalabainw Dual channel file Delirium, an auto boh8aei). Twra den eida akoma an mporw na tis dwsw auto to 20% parapanw. Sigoura mporw na allaksw to timing opws lete alla 8a kanw mia akoma ereuna sto BIOS ksana kai 8a epaner8w me perissoteres leptomeries.

 

Apo timings den exw idea bebaia opote mono an kserei kaneis na mou dwsei odhgies mporw na kanw kati. Aurio 8a sas dwsw to timing sto opoio trexoun twra.

[pap5mhla]

File Delirium, mia kai exeis paromoia motherboard sou dinw ta settings mou:

Advanced menu

CPU speed 2083MHz

CPU Freq. Multiple 12.5x (allazei mono an balw CPU speed manual)

CPU External Freq 166/33 (allazei mono an balw CPU speed manual)

Memory Freq. 333

CPU Vcore Settings AUto

CPU Vcore 1.650V

CPU Level 1 Cache Enabled

CPU Level 2 Cache Enabled

 

Chip Configuration

SDRAM Config. By SPD (exei kai User define an 8es)

SDRAM CAS latency 2.5T (DDR) (Me User define exei: 3.0T, 2.5T, 2.0T, 1.5T)

SDRAM RAS to CAS delay 3T h' 2T

SDRAM RAS Percentage delay 3T h' 2T

SDRAM Active Percentage delay 7T h' 6T

SDRAM 1M Command control Auto (h' Disabled h' Enabled)

SDRAM Bank interleave Auto (h' Disabled h' 2 Bank h' 4 Bank)

 

Ginetai loipon na allaskw ta timings-kserei kaneis poia einai kalutera?. Alla pws tis bazw (tis mnhmes) 20% panw?

 

Epishs lete na einai duanton na balw thn CPU se megaluterh akoma taxuthta (apo 2083MHz) xwris na allaksw tropo psukshs? An nai, prepei ektos apo to CPU speed na allaksw kai ekeino to jumperaki pou elega prin? Aksizei na to psaksw?

 

Paides euxaristw kai pali !

[Delirium]

Kalispera file,

 

molis mpika -tha sou apantiso sta grigora!

 

Pigaineis sto Bios tis Asus

>> Advanced >> Advanced Chipset Features

kai apo ekei:

 

* Sto "System Performance" dineis "User Define"

* Sto "Memory Frequency" dineis "120%"

* Tha emfanisei -akrivos apo kato- "Resulting Frequency" sta "200MHz" diladi DDR 400

* Telos sto "Memory Timing" dineis "Aggressive"

 

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Ta parapano einai gia tin Deluxe Edition, ean i apli den sou ta dinei, dokimase na allaxeis ta exis:

 

Chip Configuration

SDRAM Config. User define

SDRAM CAS latency 2.5T

SDRAM RAS to CAS delay 2T

SDRAM RAS Percentage delay 2T

SDRAM Active Percentage delay 6T

SDRAM 1M Command control Auto (h' Disabled h' Enabled)

SDRAM Bank 4 Bank

 

Analoga me tis mnimes sou, mporei na ta dextoun i kai oxi, nomizo omos oti den tha exeis provlima.

Theoritika, mporeis na katevaseis kai to SDRAM CAS latency se 2, alla den nomizo oti tha tous aresei.....

[veneton]

File pap5mhla exo akribos to idio susthma me esena se epeksergasti mitriki kai mia ram sta 512 kai se mena sta 2083mhz mou exei tin epilogi auto h 333 gia tin ram,auto pou paratirisa omos meta apto minima sou giati eixa kairo na mpo sto bios oti mporo na anebaso ton epeksergasti sta 2500 to idio exeis kai esi?an tyxon to ballo na doulepsei sta 2500lete na exei problhmma mi statherotitas?den exo kai polles gnoseis se auta .....euxaristo

[Delirium]

Kalispera file,

 

An ennoeis 2500MHz to vrisko apo ypervoliko os epikindyno :roll:

Gia na ftaseis ekei prepei na doseis 200 sto FSB [12,5 X 200 = 2500 MHz]. Akomi ki an to anteksei -pou to theoro apithano gia ton 2800- ksevevgeis para poly, os pros tis antoxes ton yposystimaton

 

Perissotero efiktes vlepo times mexri 180 sto FSB [12,5 X 180 = 2250 MHz]. Omos, sto vathmo pou anafereis oti den exeis idiaiteres gnoseis, den to afineis kalytera os exei? Mia xara einai o 2800 apo monos tou 8)

[pap5mhla]

File Delirium,

 

8a dokimasw tis ru8miseis molis mporesw kai 8a testarw an einai sta8ero to susthma. Polu kalh douleia, thanks.

 

Euxaristw olous gia tis sumboules.

[21century]

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