xp1800 h' P4 1.6 NW me ddr mnhmes?

[runner1]

Pros VorlonShadow:

Min anhsyxeis!Den mperdepsa tipota.Aplws an etyxe ekeini tin periodo na pairneis diafora periodika tha eblepes oti kanena den to anefere.Mono meta apo ligo kairo to anaferane!Akoma ta periodika ayta ta exw an den me pistebeis!!Bebea kapoioi pou asxolountai arketa to ikseran ayto(ki egw to iksera!) alla gia skepsou posoi den asxolountai toso kai posoi asxetoi pigan kai etreksan na paroun p4 logw tou oti oi diaforoi episis "asxetoi" katastimatarxes tous elegan diafora psemmata kai pragmata pou ontws den ikseran kan oi idioi an einai alithia!!Ena pragma sou lew: eixa paei se ena epwnymno magazi pliroforikis(alysida einai) kai otan rwtisa gia times amd mou eipe "TI EINAI AYTO!!!" Se ena allo magazi mou elegan oti den prepei na parw amd giati exei asymbatothtes me software kai hardware(asystola psemmata h' asxetosynh)!AISXOS!!

Oson afora stis ram (kai oxi sta chipset poules!) den antedrasa arnitika,diladi den eipa na mhn bgainoun allou eidous ram!Aplws eipa oti pio symferousa agora einai mia ddr mnimi!Akousa kai mia fhmh ((yparxoun polles pithanotites na einai alithia alla epifylasomai pantws) oti oi rd ram mnimes tha stamatisoun na paragontai meta apo kapoio kairo logo tou oti den "poulisan" oso eixan problepsei!!

Pantws gia to ti symferei na agorasei kaneis twra egw pisteyw amd giati mou aresei na koitaw perissotero kai to mellon kai na min basizomai stin intel pou malista tin exw ikani na ksanallaksei kanena socket h' na kanei tipota koufo!

Telos se pliroforw oti den eimai pwrwmenos me kamia etaireia aplws koitazw to symferon mou kai ayth tin stigmh me symferei poly perissotero h amd para h intel(to idio isxyei pistebw kai gia tous perissoterous)

 

Pros Deathstar:

Ayto pou les me to serial ata kai to parallel ata kserw tin diafora pou exoun ayta ta 2 edw kai polla xronia!!!!Egw ekana lathos giati diabasa grigora to post sou kai nomiza oti ennoouses ayto!Kai ayto pou mou les wste na enimerwthw kalytera......min to sxoliasw giati mono an me ikseres tha eblepes poso enhmeros eimai se themata texnologias(pc,konsoles,kinita,syskeyes eikonas & hxou k.a.) kai oxi mono se tetia themata alla kai ygeias kai athlitismou!!!!!

Ektos apo ayta den eipa oti me peirazei oti kanei anabathmiseis kai diafora alla arkei aytes na min einai askopes kai blakwdeis!!!Den mporouse na bgalei ena socket pou na min xreiazetai kathe toso kai ligaki na agorazei kaneis kainourio motherboard?Pws to katafere ayto h amd???Oson afora twra ta mhz pou mou les oti h intel parousiase ton p4 sta 4ghz den eipa egw oti ayto pou ekane den einai eyprosdekto!Kti paromoio ekane kai h amd me to cpu tis sta 3ghz prin ligo kairo!!Tis entoles 3DNOW den tis paratise h amd.An thes na ksereis eixan bgei oi alpes 3dnow pou mpikan stous k6-2,meta oi pio ekseligmenes 3dnow pou mpikan stous k6-3 kai meta apo aytes bgikan oi pio kainouries 3dnow pou einai gia tous athlon!Malista an den kanw lathos apo tous thunderbird kai meta prosthese ki alles liges entoles mesa se aytes!!Malista na ksereis oti kai ston hammer tha yparxoun pali entoles 3dnow pio ekseligmenes!!!Pantws ayto pou ekane h amd na xrisimopoihsei tis entoles sse kai sse2 einai poly eksipno gia ton logo oti oi epeksergastes tis tha einai pliris se olous tous tomeis(software & hardware) kai etsi tha exoun pliri symbatotita kai apodosi me otidipote software yparxei(giati min ksexname oti kapoia software apo kapoies etaireies gia diaforous logous-oikonomikous,logoun "onomatos k.a.- ypostiriksan perissotero tin intel)!!!!An ayto einai htta tote........ti na pw!!!!!

[Deathstar]

I AMD to katafere poli apla me to na min alazi tin texnologia tis kai na min prostheti tipota simadiko pou na epiferi alages sto sinoliko paketo.Ta mona pou alakse ston XP einai epanalamvano o pirinas pou katanaloni 63 and 72 watt exi edoles SSE kai rated onoma kai kati ala psila esoterika diladi tipota simandiko ektos apo to oti katanaloni ligotera watt me apotelesma ligoteri thermokrasia to opio den xriazete alagi socket.Ta set endolon einai 3DNOW! & 3DNOW+ se adithesi me tin Intel MMX,MMX+,SSE,SSE2. Fisika einai Htta tis kathos den katafere na pisi tin agora na ipostiriksi tis dikes tis entoles. Episis tora auta pou anaferis peri magazion kai exo rotisi kai periodikon oli kseroume oti ta periodika grafoun oti theloun kai to 90% ton magazion einai asxetoi kai tha paratheso ena aplo paradigmataki. Exo teliosi texnikos PC se IEEK kai to telefteo eksamino vlepi enas ena skliro disko kai mas rotai mobo einai auto? Enopite oti miname malakes ala autos meta apo 1 mina afou teliosame epiase doulia se magazi stin stournari.Opote min mou anaferis ti lei o kathenas sta magazia san apodiksi.

 

Tora epidi exo teliosi kai Ilektrologos ilektronikos mixanikos se aggliko panepistimio kai exo asxolithi poli microepeksergastes kai Motorola kai Intel. Epetrepese mou na gnorizo ligo parapano giati prepi na alaksi to socket an auti to theori aparetito. Gia na ensomatosi kapia ala pragmata pou to exi ipopsin tis. Opos anaferthike episis apo ton filo pio pano to ixe pi apo tin arxi oti tha alaze apo 423 se 478 socket i INTEL.

 

Episis Runner1 tha simfoniso mazi sou oti i kaliteri epilogi tora einai i AMD kai ego exo kai osi me rotane AMD protino. Ala pisteuo oti ena mion tis AMD einai i VIA me tis malakies pou kani me ta chips tis. An eixe kaliteri ipostiriksi tha itan pio pano.

 

<small>[ 06-03-2002, 03:41: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: Deathstar ]</small>

[kirimis]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by runner1:

<strong>Kai ayto pou mou les wste na enimerwthw kalytera......min to sxoliasw giati mono an me ikseres tha eblepes poso enhmeros eimai se themata texnologias(pc,konsoles,kinita,syskeyes eikonas & hxou k.a.) kai oxi mono se tetia themata alla kai ygeias kai athlitismou!!!!!

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Βρε φιλε Runner, εχω προβλημα με το δεξι ματι της κουζινας, θα ερθεις να το φτιαξεις???

 

χαχαχαχαχα... με εκανες και γελασα βρε! ναι σαι καλα <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

* ενα site www.askrunner.com θα ηταν οτι πρεπει <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

 

<small>[ 06-03-2002, 03:15: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: kirimis ]</small>

[yositosi]

Paidakia me mperedepsate!! Mipws exoume mperdepsei ligo ta pragmata???? Milate genika kai aprosdiorista gia overclockability tou P4... alla den tonizete oti an valeis Rambus ston P4 tote les bye-bye sto ipsilo overclocking logw tis ipsilis euaisthisias tis mnimis!!!!!

Oson afora tis epidoseis... me 130000 pairneis enan XP2000+, me 70000 pairneis ena KR7A tis Abit, me alla 50000 pairneis mia Corsair 256Mb, kai me alla 40000 pairneis eite ena Swiftech cooler ite ena Alpha!! Diladi sinolo 290000 kai eisai pliris kai arxizeis to diastimiko overclocking.... Mias pou milate gia times kai simferon gia peite mou kai emena poso kanei enas P4 2200 sketos?????

[Επισκέπτης]

milame kai eimaste filoi mou olo gelakia <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

 

o p4 2,2 einai ontos akrivos poly....xmmmm as fantastoume omws ligo pou borei na ftasei?

mhpws 3,010Ghz einai arketa h oxi?? xwris kanena provlhma??

 

Symfwno me yositosi oti h intel to exei ga...me times alla o p4 1,6 northwood einai arketa fthnos kai milame na pareis board me ddr mnhmes oxi rambus <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

[CENTAURUS]

SkYwaLkGR mias kai thelo eide contr. (exo 5 suskeues eide),mou gialise mia momo ths gigabyte gia thn opoia diabasa kai kala logia se kapoio periodiko,einai kai apo tis markes pou exei o magazatoras mou,thn GA-8IRXP !

pos thn blepeis? kai genika opoios kserei na mou pei ean einai kalh kai ean exei ola ta xarakthristika pou tha eprepe na exo... alla kai ean uparxei kapoia allh momo apo thn msi me ta antistixa xarakthristika (na exei eide contr. kai 4 usb)pou na einai poio fthnh.(90000 nomizo kanei h gigabyte)

h' mhpos telika tha prepei na dialekso mia momo me to sis645 anti to 845? apo oti eida oi 333 mnhmes einai mono 3% poio grhgores apo tis 266...

ti lete?

thanks! <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

[VorlonShadow]

Sigritiko test tis sigekrimenhs ( pou tin bgazei kai proth ) alla kai allon mobo me to 845 edo :

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1567&p=10

 

Allo ena review :

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=179

 

Sth thesh sou pantos tha eperna to Asus P4B266 kathos me to gigabyte anaferthikan polla problimata. Psakse ligo sto forum tou Anand kathos kai sto www.hardforum.com

 

<small>[ 07-03-2002, 01:02: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: VorlonShadow ]</small>

[madrules]

Tzampa pragma o p4 2200 mono 310000 exei siga ta lefta bale kai m/b, mnimes, trofodotiko ktl kai eisai jet.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

 

Mipos ksexnate otan stin arxi otan i Intel ebgale tous p4 ti eprepe na allaksei enas pou eixe as poume p3 xxx Mhz kai ithele na parei p4 xxxx Mhz????? Hthele na kanei kapoios anabathmisi sto cpu kai eprepe na parei mazi kai mitriki kai mnimi kai trofodotiko kai meta lete gia tous amd pou den bgainoun me cooler kai prepei na to pareis extra.

 

Balte kato kai deite apo tis allages pou exei kanei i Intel sta slot/socket kai tis antystixes tis Amd.

 

Thymamai otan eixa enan Intel 486 kai meta gia na paro ton pentium 133 allaksa mitriki, episis meta gia na paro ton 233mmx kai pali allaksa mitriki kai katopin pira celeron kai pali allagi mitrikis me slot kai telos gia na paro pali celeron kai pali mitriki (epeidi den to ypostirize i proigoumeni) kai asta na pane otan allaza cpu allaza kai mitriki.

Mexri pou pira ton proto mou AMD Duron kai ysixasa pernontas kai mia asus me to via kt133a molis eixe bgei kai apo tote exontas allaksei 4 epeksergastes mono ston teleytaio pou pira allaksa mitriki kai ayto epeidi ithela na paro kati pio kainourgio kai na balo ddr mnimes allios epeze kai me tin palia mitriki stin opoia kai epeze kai o Xp (enos filou) pou eixa dokimasei me bios update

 

Den ksero ti lete alla me ayti tin taktiki tis Intel kathe new cpu kai new socket ktl ego den diatithomai na xano tzampa lefta eno thelo na kano mia apli anabathmisi se cpu kai prepei na skao alla posa xrimata kai gia mitrikes ktl.

[runner1]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kirimis:

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by runner1:

<strong>Kai ayto pou mou les wste na enimerwthw kalytera......min to sxoliasw giati mono an me ikseres tha eblepes poso enhmeros eimai se themata texnologias(pc,konsoles,kinita,syskeyes eikonas & hxou k.a.) kai oxi mono se tetia themata alla kai ygeias kai athlitismou!!!!!

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Βρε φιλε Runner, εχω προβλημα με το δεξι ματι της κουζινας, θα ερθεις να το φτιαξεις???

 

χαχαχαχαχα... με εκανες και γελασα βρε! ναι σαι καλα <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

* ενα site www.askrunner.com θα ηταν οτι πρεπει <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Apo tin stigmh pou den me ksereis kai den me pistebeis tote kai emena.......sta a*****a mou!!!An thes mporeis na synexiseis na me koroideyeis!Egw den se kserw kai den mporw na pw an eisai gnwstis kapoiwn pragmatwn alla an kapote diabasw kapoia sygkekrimena post sou tote tha katalabw ti ksereis kai ti oxi!!!

[runner1]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kirimis:

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by runner1:

<strong>Kai ayto pou mou les wste na enimerwthw kalytera......min to sxoliasw giati mono an me ikseres tha eblepes poso enhmeros eimai se themata texnologias(pc,konsoles,kinita,syskeyes eikonas & hxou k.a.) kai oxi mono se tetia themata alla kai ygeias kai athlitismou!!!!!

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Βρε φιλε Runner, εχω προβλημα με το δεξι ματι της κουζινας, θα ερθεις να το φτιαξεις???

 

χαχαχαχαχα... με εκανες και γελασα βρε! ναι σαι καλα <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

* ενα site www.askrunner.com θα ηταν οτι πρεπει <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Apo tin stigmh pou den me ksereis kai den me pistebeis tote kai emena.......sta a*****a mou!!!An thes mporeis na synexiseis na me koroideyeis!Egw den se kserw kai den mporw na pw an eisai gnwstis kapoiwn pragmatwn alla an kapote diabasw kapoia sygkekrimena post sou tote tha katalabw ti ksereis kai ti oxi!!!

 

Pros Deathstar:

Kaneis lathos gia tis entoles 3DNOW!Thimithika akribws tin eksliksi tous: 3DNOW(AMD K6-2),EXTENDED 3DNOW(AMD K6-3)(h' kapws etsi legontousan) kai 3DNOW+(AMD ATHLON)!

Oson afora to socket mporei na min eimai ilektrologos mixanikos alla kserw ki gw pote xreiazetai mia etaireia na allazei socket!Omws mou tin spaei pou h intel grafei entelws sta a*****a tis tous xristes kai den skeftetai katholou gia to an sto mellon theloun na kanoun kapoia mellontiki anabathmisi tha anagkastoun na allaksoun motherboard!!Pantws sou lew oti symfwnw oi etaireies na allazoun socket an to apliotero den trabaei allo,alla na to kanoun me synesi kai na skeftontai oti oloi den einai toso anetoi oikonomika wste na ta xwnoun kathe ligo kai ligaki stous karagkiozides!!!!!!

Ayto me to tsipaki tis Via ontws einai problima alla se pollous eftiakse me syndyasmo bios update-Via Drivers alla kai pali kapoioi mporei na exoun problimata!Omws apo oti exw akousei ayto symbainei kai se xristes pou exoun intel epeksergastes oxi mono se amd!!!

Kati teleytaio:H allagi sto socket pou mou les sou eipa poioi to ikseran kai poioi einai logiko na eixan pliroforithei omws h pleiopsifia xristwn pc pou den ta psaxnei ayta ta themata(ayto einai logo fortou ergasias,logw elleipsis gnwsewn se kapoia themata h' elleipsi endiaferontos h' den kserw ki egw gia ti allous logous) tin patisan!!!

[kirimis]

πωπω αυτη η νεολαια αμεσως να αρπαχτει... αμαν μωρε... δεν σε ειπαμε και τιποτα <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

 

Τεσπα στο θεμα μας... εστω και κρατανε το ιδιο Socket λοιπον... ποια η πιθανοτητα να μπορει η παλια μας motherboard να υποστηριξει τις νεες ταχυτητες χρονισμου που ειναι θεμα hardware? Υποψην πως ειπαμε δεν εχουμε τα τρελλα λεφτα οποτε δεν θα παμε απο τον Athlon 1GHZ στον 1,4GHZ αλλα σε κατι αρκετα μεγαλυτερο για να εχουν αξια τα λεφτα που θα δωσουμε.

 

Αντε και λοιπον υποστηριζονται οι ταχυτητες χρονισμου... αν ομως τα υπολοιπα υποσυστηματα οπως η μνημη για παραδειγμα, πνιγουν τον νεο επεξεργαστη τοτε τι? Μηπως θα πανε πεταμενα τα λεφτα σε αυτη την περιπτωση? Μηπως το αποτελεσμα θα ειναι απογοητευτικο? Μηπως στο τελος τελος θα αναγκαστουμε να παρουμε μια νεα motherboard? Οποτε τι μας πειραζει αν αλλαζει το socket? Οπως και να εχει, στο διαστημα που μεσολαβει για ενα upgrade αλλαζουν σημαντικα πραγματα πανω σε μια motherboard περα απο το Socket.

 

Φαντασου λοιπον ενα P4@2Ghz σε μια QDI Advance9 με SDRAM κλπ κλπ.... το ουσιαστικο κερδος μηδενικο...

 

Δες το λιγακι απο αυτη την πλευρα το θεμα και θα δεις πιστευω, πως το Socket ειναι το τςελευταιο που μας νοιαζει αν θα αλλαξει...

[NeTeD]

Na pw ki egw th gnwmh mou..

 

Osoi vrizete thn Intel epidi ka8e treis kai ligo vgazei kainourgio socket, ALLA ka8e 4 mhnes pate kai agorazete to kainourgio m/b me to neo chipset ths VIA den exete dikaiwma na milate.

 

Gia tous allous(opws ki egw) pou agorazoume ena mhxanhma me skopo na to anavathmisoume se kana xrono pali ligo mas noiazei posa chipsets kai sockets tha alaksei mexri tote h Intel.

 

Prin kairo phra enan Pentium4 1.5Ghz, ton exw pusharei sta 1.7 xwris kanena provlhma me thn psyktra tou, se 423 socket me 324mb rambus. Ti me noiazei an vghke 478? Me anagazei kaneis na to agorasw? Me anagazoun oi apaithseis twn paixnidiwn? Oxi.. Me mia gforce2gts 32MB paizw Return to Wolfenstein apsoga..

Se kana xrono pou tha thelw na anavathmistw, tha exoun erthei ta panw katw. Eite AMD eixa, eite INTEL, pali oloklhro to systhma tha allaza giati apthn mia tha eixe vgei to KT80000Z, ki apthn allh to neo socket 666.

 

Kai mh sygrinete synexeia ta top montela ths ka8e etairias.. Ok h Intel taxei tsimphmena den antilegw, alla den anaferomaste se ayta.

[Deathstar]

Runner1 To socket einai to telefteo pou se noiazi kita tin VIA pou kathe 3 mines sou peta ena neo kai kala CHIP kai to 90% apo emas anavathmizi to mobo tou opos KT133-KT133A pou itan kseklidoma tou KT133 gia na ipotsirizi kapia akoma pragmata opos BUS 133. KT266-KT266A tora KT333 kai anamenete se ligous mines kai to KT333A pros septemvri to KT400 kai pai legondas ala gia autous den vlepo na skizete oloi kanoun tis papies. Oso gia tous intel pou milas forane kai Mobo gia intel VIA chips opote probs ala ...... kinezoi. Ego protino na asxolithis kalitera me tin kipouriki para me auta pou les kai nomizis oti katexis.

 

<small>[ 07-03-2002, 04:50: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: Deathstar ]</small>

[mer-LoL-]

"Ego ixa to Abit KT7A-RAID V1.0 Den perni XP pou kataligoume?? Kai min mou pis oti den itan kalo mobo."

 

? ti pseftis thee mou . Oli i sira kt7x akoma kai a apo 1.0 mexri kai 1.3 ipostirizoun ton xp . I moni diafora sta dio mobos 1.3 kai 1.0~1.2 einai kapioi xronoi pou xriazete i cpu . Akoma kai ta modela 1.0~1.2 den bootaroun sosta , exei apodixti me ena reset linete to provlima . Ean exeis kt7a 1.0~1.2 kai apla to sistima sou einai unstable dokimase na kaneis flash to "65" pou einai gia 1.3 ( parolo pou exeis 1.0~1.2 , nomizo to switch einai awdflash /f , xoris vevea na eimai sigouros .. mporis na to dis me "awdflash /?" to switch auto epitrepi to flash akoma kai ean i sigrisi ton checksums ton roms einai diaforetiki ) . Paraksena pragmata sou leo =p

 

"Paidakia me mperedepsate!! Mipws exoume mperdepsei ligo ta pragmata???? Milate genika kai aprosdiorista gia overclockability tou P4... alla den tonizete oti an valeis Rambus ston P4 tote les bye-bye sto ipsilo overclocking logw tis ipsilis euaisthisias tis mnimis!!!!!"

 

Den iparxi logos na valis rambus ston p4 afou 150 fsb ( epi 16 pou einai o polaplastiasis ) se sinergasia me mia abit bd7 pou einai arketa tweakable prosferi arketo memory bandwidth gia na ikanopiisi kathe anagi se memory bandwidth . ( Min petaxtoun na mou pei kaneis oti to sisoft lei pos exei kalitero bandwidth .. giati sto sandra dixnei to megisto theoritiko.. ) .

 

"Oson afora tis epidoseis... me 130000 pairneis enan XP2000+, me 70000 pairneis ena KR7A tis Abit, me alla 50000 pairneis mia Corsair 256Mb, kai me alla 40000 pairneis eite ena Swiftech cooler ite ena Alpha!! Diladi sinolo 290000 kai eisai pliris kai arxizeis to diastimiko overclocking...."

 

O xp2000+ den einai "katholou" overclockable se sxesi me ton p4 1.6 northwood . o xp2000+ pai sinithos 1800~1900 , pou veveos einai ena poli kalo overclock alla oxi pios kseri ti.. Vale enan p4 1.6 + bd7 + corasir + ena meseo cooler , volcano 7 as poume.. tote arxizis to diastimiko overclock . sto ena milame kai gia 1ghz overclock eno ston athlon gia peripou 300 mhz overclock.

 

Mias pou milate gia times kai simferon gia peite mou kai emena poso kanei enas P4 2200 sketos?????

 

den eipe kaneis na paris ton p4 2.2 ghz ...

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Deathstar:

<strong>Runner1 To socket einai to telefteo pou se noiazi kita tin VIA pou kathe 3 mines sou peta ena neo kai kala CHIP kai to 90% apo emas anavathmizi to mobo tou opos KT133-KT133A pou itan kseklidoma tou KT133 gia na ipotsirizi kapia akoma pragmata opos BUS 133. KT266-KT266A tora KT333 kai anamenete se ligous mines kai to KT333A pros septemvri to KT400 kai pai legondas ala gia autous den vlepo na skizete oloi kanoun tis papies. Oso gia tous intel pou milas forane kai Mobo gia intel VIA chips opote probs ala ...... kinezoi. Ego protino na asxolithis kalitera me tin kipouriki para me auta pou les kai nomizis oti katexis.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nai omws h Via sthn ousia einai aneksartiti apo intel kai amd kai to socket tou kathe motherboard kai cpu kathorizetai apo tin intel kai tin amd!Sigoura mou tis spaei me tis m******s tis h Via alla ti na kanoume?Prospathoume me diaforous tropous na metriasoume h' na eksaleipsoume to problima!Ola ayta loipon pou eipes ta iksera kai oson afora ayta pou......katexw min to paizeis magkas epeidi eisai megalyteros kai pio palios sto forum!!!!Thimisou ti gnwseis eixes esy sta 18 sou kai ti gnwseis exeis twra kai se poia themata kai meta ela na mou miliseis!!Se pliroforw oti den mporeis na mou kaneis ton eksypnakia giati ontws se ayta ta themata pou anefera kserw polla perissotera apo osa nomizeis!!!!!Mporei na sou fenetai apistefto kai na skeftesai pote prolaba kai brika xrono kai asxolithika me ola ayta,omws opoios exei endiaferon kai thelei na einai mesa se ola (estw kai apo ligo ston kathe tomea) tote bazei katw ton kwlo tou kai kseskizetai gia ayta!!

Kai kati telefteo gia mena giati poly mou kollas kai arxizw na ta psilopairnw!!!!Min nomizeis oti epeidi asxoloume me ola ayta eimai ena mathitis tou kwlou kai etsi!!Kai se panepistimio AEI perasa fetos kai kanw kai prwtathlitismo(an ksereis ti einai ayto kai den to pareksigiseis kai arxiseis na les oti eimai pswnio kai etsi!!)!