Edw to kalo mp3!

[Dimmu_Borgir]

Basika kai egw kanw mp3 me Audiocatalyst kai opws kai o filos mou o Snolly exw ta DTT2200 ths Creaive.H mousikh pou akouw einai metal (an kai fainetai kai apo to nick <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ) kai to encoding einai VBR normal/high (meso oro 192 an den kanw la8os).Ousiastikh diafora den blepw se sugkrish me Lame kai o logos pou sunexizw na kanw mp3 me Audiocatalyst einai h taxuthta, an kai exw XP1900+.

Epishs eimai ths apopshs oti den uparxei poiothkotero digital audio extraction apo ton sundiasmo Plextor kai PlexTools!Kanw la8os?

 

<small>[ 10-04-2002, 01:44: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: Dimmu_Borgir ]</small>

[mer-LoL-]

If you want mp3 , lame is the only way to go !=D

[kavaliotis]

Re paidia to eipa mia, to eipa duo fores, 8a to ksanapw..Otan episthmones ston xwro pou asxolountai epaggelmatika me auto to pragma sas lene oti o LAME einai o kaluteros tropos na kaneis MP3, giati den tous akoute (ennoow gia hydrogenaudio.org ktl)? Epeidh dhladh den akoute diafora se apla hxeiakia 8usiazete poiothta? Panta me auta ta hxeiakia 8a eiste? Antallages den kanete? Den sas endiaferei kapos pio mellontika auto pou kanete? Einai ena arxeio apo MP3 auto pou ftiaxnete, opote kalo 8a htan meta apo merika xronia na mporeite na ta akoute pali teleia..Telos panton, LAME LAME LAME!

[Coilworks]

Fraunhofer!Fraunhofer!Fraunhofer! <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

[el00343]

kopste afto to lame vs fraunhoffer.O kathe algorithmos exei ta dika tou syn kai plin.

To lame exei kanei terasties proodous teleftaia,

kai eidika me thn eisagwgh twn alt-presets einai

koinws apodekto oti einai to kalytero gia psila bitrates >=192.

O fraunhoffer antithetos 'akougetai' na exei kalyteres

epidoseis sta xamilotera bitrates,kai leo akougetai

giati o kathenas exei tis dikes tou protimiseis

oson afora to artifacting tou kathe encoder.

 

To gegonos einai oti o Lame beltiwnetai diarkws,

KAI sta xamila bitrates ,kathos o 3.92 pleon exei

alt-presets se bitrates <80 ,eno oi fraunhoffer

exoun pesei se stasimotita ton teleftaio kairo.

 

Pantos osoi apofasisetai na min kanete mp3,den proteino allo format apo to ogg,gia ton apooustato

logo oti einai open-source kai h ypostiriksh tou

einai eksasfalismenh sto mellon.

Antitheta, px to mpc eno prosferei makran to kalytero logo size/quality, einai kleisto format

<ok, o encoder mono alla afto exei shmasia>

pou simainei oti an o frank barethei...to klegame.

[Coilworks]

Λοιπόν για το Οgg δεν γνωρίζω τίποτα, έχω κατεβάσει ένα encoder, την ποιότητα δεν κατάφερα να την ξεχωρίσω απο τα mp3 (δεν το έψαξα και πολύ).Μπορείς να μας δόσεις παραπάνω πληροφορίες, ή καμμιά πηγή;

[el00343]

kateftheian apo thn official selida www.vorbis.com:

"Ogg Vorbis is a completely open, patent-free, professional audio encoding and streaming technology with all the benefits of Open Source."

katarxas to format afto kwdikopoihshs

hxou legetai 'vorbis', to ogg einai ena geniko

container format pou mporei na periexei kai video

klp.

 

Texnika milwntas,to ogg vorbis prohgeitai tou mp3.

1.einai safws kalytero apo to mp3 sta idia bitrates.

2.einai polykanalo,kai otan h multichannel coupling texnikh beltiwthei tha apotelei monodromo

gia to dvd ripping.

3.prosferei extra polyteleies opos replay gain,

bitrate peeling klp.Ti einai bitrate peeling?

As poume oti exeis kanei ena .ogg sta 192 kbps

alla thes na to stream-areis se ena filo sou

apo to modem gia na to akousei.Tha mporeis on-the-fly na to kaneis stream eno taftoxrona tha metatrepetai sta px.32 kbps kratwntas oso to dynaton tis xrhsimes plhrofories tou hxou.

 

bebaia,exei akoma dromo,kathws brisketai akoma

sthn Release Candidate 3 ekdosh kai oloi perimenoun thn 1.0 gia na to ypostiriksoun.Kathws einai open-source,eksellisetai kathe mera,alla apo

thn official selida tha briskeis mono tis kyries

ekdoseis.Gia teleftaia updates :

http://ogg.benjamin-lebsanft.de/Download.htm

kai katebase to oggDrop pre RC4 kato apo to "Aktuell mit Optimierung".

 

Poly aplo stin xrisi tou,apla kaneis drag n drop

ta wav pou theleis na kaneis ogg.

 

Elpizo na se katatopisa.Nomizo oti aksizei ton kopo.

[Επισκέπτης]

φιλε kavaliotis εισαι φαουλ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

 

Δεν ειπε κανεις οτι οι Amd δεν ειναι καλοι στο θεμα encoding απο cdfs->mp3,αλλα δεν μπορεις να κατηγορεις και τους Intel οπου ειναι εξισου καλοι απλως τους πληρωνεις χρυσαφι!.

[Coilworks]

Thanks for the info,εγώ έχω τον

XFileZ? OGG Encoder.

[mandos]

paidia den diavasa ola to topic logo xronou

 

to mono pou exo na po einai oti oson afora emena den akouo diafora apo ta 128 sta 256 symmantikh oste na po oti stamatao na ripparo sta 128 pao poio pano

to lame to dokimasa proth fora prin 2 meres

kalo se epiloges pou den exei to audiocatalyst

alla polly argo

tha to xrhsimopoihso mallon sto mellon os antikatastath tou catalyst alla: otan exo 9cd ton 80min ekasto kai mono mish ora na ta ripparo tote to audicatalyst einai o theos

sta 160kbps (pote den xrisimopoio VBR, os tora toulaxiston) den katalavaineis kanena prob

kai epidh mou exei symbei polles fores (me rekor ta 9cd se mish ora) to audiocatalyst oso palio kai na einai den tha pethanei akoma

 

kai kati akoma, pleon exo papsei na ripparo ta cd mou, osa ekana rip eginan prin apo 4 xronia se enan mmx200mhz pou ton ebaza to proi na ripparei (afou evriska 1gb eleythero xoro) ekana 2 proseyxes na mhn kollhsei efeyga kai ton ekleina to apogeyma

sta 128 mono, tote ta VBR htan gia petama

ola ta songs pou exo se cd kai ta thelo se mp3 exoun ripparistei apo tote, na ta xanarip loipon?

tora poia katevazo tragoudia apo to net opou o kathenas kanei rip me oti autos theli, kai pou xero ego me ti to ekane

apo 2000+ mp3 mono ta 200 exo ripparei ego h kapoios filos mou

ta ypoloipa einai apo net, h apo antallagh diskon me atoma pou oute pou ta xero <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

kalo to lame alla efoson den akouo diafora (kai milame gia hxosysthma pou den kanei bebaia 10myria alla polloi tha hthelan, apla xeiropoihto)

giati na kano ta mp3 mou me ton poio dyskolo tropo?

skefthka kai to mp3pro, kalh poiothta mikros xoros... afou oloi oi sklhroi einai apo 40gb tora poia kai kanena mp3player den to ypostireizei (syn tou dikou mou, ericsson hpm-10)

emeina loipon sto audiocatalyst kai se opoion mou zhtaei kai kati tou to protino (ama tou protino to lame se 2 ores tha me parei thl gia to pos douleyei, kai den mporo na po oti xero akoma <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> )

 

sta mp3 kato apo 128 (112...) katalavaino mia elafria diafora, arage ta 128 constant einai ok gia emena, kai an sto mellon akouo kalhtera tha exei bgei kai anamorfoths gia ta mp3 mou <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

 

<small>[ 22-04-2002, 12:37: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: mandos ]</small>

[sash]

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Merikes erwthseis apo kapoion pou den einai eidikos sta mp3 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

 

Xrhsimopoiw to cdex 1.40 beta 9 gia ripping (http://www.cdex.n3.net) me ta cdparanoia libs (Full paranoia) gia to audio extraction. Kai gia to encoding lame 3.92 me ta eksis settings sto cdex 1.40 beta 9: MPEG I - bitrate 192 - very high quality (q=0) - On the fly MP3 encoding - VBR disabled.

 

8a h8ela na mou peite eseis pou kseretai kati parapanw apo mena ti mporw na kanw gia na veltiwsw thn poiothta toy hxou. Na kanw extraction apo to EAC? na valw VBR? Na To kanw se 2 stadia ( extraction EAC -> encoding) kai na xrhsimoppoihsw to exe tou lame kai na valw alla settings? poia? ( kati graftike gia r3mix ktl ktl)

 

Exw kalh karta hxou kai kala hxia kai h poiothta gia mena metraei poly.

 

sas efxaristw poly

[NeTeD]

Στον αντίποδα υπάρχει και το Ogg Vorbis που συνεργάζεται άπογα με CDex(μια χαρά προγραμματάκι είναι κι αυτό) για το οποίο ετοιμάζω νέο post! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Για μια απλή γεύση:

www.vorbis.com

www.hydrogenaudio.com

 

(Μόλις καθιέρωσα τα ελληνικά. Με γεια μου!)

[sash]

diladi me ta strings " -b 192 -m s -h -q 0 " eimai ok?

 

efxaristw poly

[el00343]

katarxas gia na eksasfaliseis apsogo audio extraction

h moni lysh einai to eac.

http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

koita kai to readme gia na matheis na to xrhsimopoieis kai na kaneis swsto configuration,mhn se tromaksoun oi polles epiloges tou.

 

Gia high quality mp3s einai monodromos to lame.

katebase to razorlame (frontend)

http://www.dors.de/razorlame/

 

kai san parametro tou lame bale

--alt-preset standard

 

Afto tha sou dinei mp3s peripou sta 200 kbps,

me arketa kali poiotita hxou.an den sou ftanei afto,dokimase kai --alt-preset extreme h insane.

An sou fainontai arga,dokimase amesos meta apo

to -preset na baleis 'fast', px

--alt-preset fast standard gia ligo

megalyterh taxythta se baros ths poiothtas.

 

To insane einai thewritika oti kalytero mporeis na

pareis apo to mp3...

 

Ksexna to --r3mix. Afto einai sxetika kseperasmeno

setting. Palia xrisimopoioutan prin bgoun ta -alt-presets.

[Coilworks]

Είμαι ενθουσιασμένος με το ogg vorbis.Αν στην νέα έκδοση του nero υπάρχει η δυνατότητα να καις cd όπως με τα mp3 (drag&drop) τότε θα τα ξεχάσω τα mp3.