adsl over pstn se 2 pc kai telephony apories

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geia sas agapitoi insomniacs. akolouthontas ta xnaria tou spasoklampanikou thread pou ekana gia agora neou pc, irthe i ora gia noob erotiseis oson afora to gnosto se esas adsl.

 

loipon. ego exo pstn. thelo na valo adsl.

 

proti erotisi. xero oti einai ligo maniki gia tous texnikous na to kanoun auto(kalutera na eixa idi isdn). opote gia na apofugo talaipories kai kakotopies ti prepei na kano?

uparxei kamia etairia apo tis forthnet kai vivodi(den asxoloume me ton pote), pou na exei kalu exipuretisi oson agora to texniko tmima tous (kai aftersales service fusika). zitao tin empeiria sas oste na vadiso sigoura. erotiseis tou stul poia etairia einai pio ftini de sas tis kano. outos i allos oles pano kato idies einai.

 

gia na apofugo talaipories kai mpleximata leo na valo toso isp oso kai provider tin idia etairia. i vivodi i forthnet. omos thelo na valo kai tilefonia.opote sumfona pali me tin empeiria sas poia exei polu katharo ixo sti statheri tilefonia?

stin arxi enas filos mou(prin kana xrono0 eixe statheri vivodi kai itan skata. omos tora eftiaxe. sugritika me forthnet pou vriskete?

 

episis , kai auto einai polu sumantiko, sto spiti exo 2 pc. ena to diko mou (pou tha exo kai tin kuria xrisi tou adsl) kai ena tis aderfis mou(pou tha parei to palio diko mou pou exei pano modemaki.

gia na exei kai i aderfi mou internet kai na min plironoume parapano(na exei kai ekeini adsl(outos i allos na katevazei pragmata, den paizei mono serfarisma tha kanei0, ti prepi na kano oste na exei kai ekeini prosvasi sto internet?

 

eimai toso noob pou den xero ti einai to router pou oloi anaferete.

please peite mou me apla logia ti diadikasia kai ego tha miliso kai me texnikou, alla na xero 5 pragmata prin, gia na mi me mamisoun.

 

fantazomai oti de tha prepei na kunigiso ta modemakia me tis prosfores pou dinoun oi etairies mias kai ego thelo exezitimena pragmata e?

 

 

sas euxaristo.

ps. to adsl thelo na to valo(toulaxiston na kano tin aitisi 0 tin tetarti. opote please enimeroste me.

 

ps2. xerete poso tha mou parei gia na exo adsl spiti? den kratiemai .

[Παναγιώτης Σ.]

geia sas agapitoi insomniacs. akolouthontas ta xnaria tou spasoklampanikou thread pou ekana gia agora neou pc' date=' irthe i ora gia noob erotiseis oson afora to gnosto se esas adsl.

 

loipon. ego exo pstn. thelo na valo adsl.

 

proti erotisi. xero oti einai ligo maniki gia tous texnikous na to kanoun auto(kalutera na eixa idi isdn). opote gia na apofugo talaipories kai kakotopies ti prepei na kano?[/quote']

 

Μιά αίτηση στο 134 [ή όπου αλλού επιλέξεις εσύ], και μια αγορά Router dsl over pstn και φίλτρα για κάθε τηλεφωνική γραμμή που έχει πάνω της συσκευή τηλεφώνου.

 

uparxei kamia etairia apo tis forthnet kai vivodi(den asxoloume me ton pote), pou na exei kalu exipuretisi oson agora to texniko tmima tous (kai aftersales service fusika). zitao tin empeiria sas oste na vadiso sigoura. erotiseis tou stul poia etairia einai pio ftini de sas tis kano. outos i allos oles pano kato idies einai.

 

Αν σου πώ οτι κατάλαβα τι ρωτάς, δεν θα είμαι ειλικρηνής.

Δεν το χρειάζεσαι το aftersales, ούτε το "καλό τεχνικό τμήμα".

Δύο απλά πραματάκια είναι όλα και όλα, εδώ μπορείς να βρείς τις απαντήσεις.

 

gia na apofugo talaipories kai mpleximata leo na valo toso isp oso kai provider tin idia etairia. i vivodi i forthnet. omos thelo na valo kai tilefonia.opote sumfona pali me tin empeiria sas poia exei polu katharo ixo sti statheri tilefonia?

stin arxi enas filos mou(prin kana xrono0 eixe statheri vivodi kai itan skata. omos tora eftiaxe. sugritika me forthnet pou vriskete?

Για την ViVODi δεν ξέρω, αλλά δεν θα έχεις κανένα πρόβλημα, αν βάλεις την γραμμή του ΟΤΕ, και πάρεις IsP, όποιον θέλεις εσύ.

 

episis , kai auto einai polu sumantiko, sto spiti exo 2 pc. ena to diko mou (pou tha exo kai tin kuria xrisi tou adsl) kai ena tis aderfis mou(pou tha parei to palio diko mou pou exei pano modemaki.

gia na exei kai i aderfi mou internet kai na min plironoume parapano(na exei kai ekeini adsl(outos i allos na katevazei pragmata, den paizei mono serfarisma tha kanei0, ti prepi na kano oste na exei kai ekeini prosvasi sto internet?

 

Ασύρματο Royter η καλύτερη λύση στο πρόβλημά σου.

 

eimai toso noob pou den xero ti einai to router pou oloi anaferete.

please peite mou me apla logia ti diadikasia kai ego tha miliso kai me texnikou, alla na xero 5 pragmata prin, gia na mi me mamisoun.

 

router: A device that forwards data packets along networks. A router is connected to at least two networks, commonly two LANs or WANs or a LAN and its ISPʼs network. Routers are located at gateways, the places where two or more networks connect.

Routers use headers and forwarding tables to determine the best path for forwarding the packets, and they use protocols such as ICMP to communicate with each other and configure the best route between any two hosts.

 

fantazomai oti de tha prepei na kunigiso ta modemakia me tis prosfores pou dinoun oi etairies mias kai ego thelo exezitimena pragmata e?

Εξαρτάται, τι λές εσύ "εξεζητημένα"

 

sas euxaristo.

ps. to adsl thelo na to valo(toulaxiston na kano tin aitisi 0 tin tetarti. opote please enimeroste me.

 

ps2. xerete poso tha mou parei gia na exo adsl spiti? den kratiemai .

Για aDSL 384/128 : 19?/μήνα περίπου η γραμμή απο ΟτΕ, και ότι πληρώνεις στον IsP σου.

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mallon to biazomai kai den kratiemai phgaine sto poso xrono 8a sou parei... E kana mhna peripou!An kai prepei na exoun alla3ei ligo ta pragmata kai na kanoun pio grhgora. Omws sthn Ellada eisai kai h ka8usterhsh einai koino mustiko...

Epishs 8a se sumbouleua na baleis mia etairia gia ola kai thl kai adsl.Glutwneis lefta etsi.

Egw panws eimai polu euxaristhmenos apo vivodi kai kobw ton ote (na mhn plhrwnw to pagio tou keratiatiko)kai bazw full vivodi me dsl phone pou to xei balei enas filos kai einai mia xara.

To router einai dromologhths. Dhladh dromologei ta dedomena apo tous upologistes tou diktuou sou (to pc sou kai ths aderfhs sou) ston isp kai pisw stous upologistes.Einai aparaithto otan exeis diktuo spiti sou kai oxi mono ena pc.

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Egw file mou 8a sou elega na baleis full llu grammh vivodi...peripou 36 eurw 384/128 ola mazi...kai me epipleon 8 eurw+fpa ton mhna exeis 8 wres dwrean uperastika kai astika!!!

 

Afou 8es na sundeseis 2 pc sto internet(kai fantazomai 8es na exei prosbash to deutero pc sto internet kai as einai kleisto to prwto) tote xreiazesai 2 kartes diktuou(mia se ka8e pc), ena modem-router kai pi8anws ena switch(ean to modem-router sou exei mia mono e3odo ethernet)...Egw exw to speedtouch 530 pou einai aplo kai polu kalo...apo kei kai pera ta zyxel einai tzet!

 

An kaneis thn tetarth thn aithsh upologize gurw stis 20 ergasimes gia na to exeis...

Bebaia DEN 8a kaneis thn aithsh kai 8a perimeneis...8a PAIRNEIS thl na tous prizeis gia na sou to kanoun oso pio grhgora ginetai..(mhn pairneis kai apo thn prwth bdomada bebaia...)..

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sas euxaristo olous.

2 apories. proton, ta 2 pc einai se diaforetika domatia. kai an arxiso na mpleko me kalodia, tha kano to spiti mpourdelo, ase pou den exo karta diktuoy ston palio upologisti

 

kai de xero kai pos na kano diktuo

 

an paro px ti vivodi kai tous po ti thelo, paizei o texnikos na erthei kai na ta egatastisei ola ekeinos?

na enosei kai tous upologistes ennoo?

 

mporo na valo 2-3 suskeues tilefonou i mono mia, auti pou einai konta sto pc me dsl?

 

ta filtra giati xreiazontai? mou ta promitheuei o texnikos?

 

filtar kai router poso pane?

to asurmato router ti aktinovolia rixnei? einai san bluetooth i douleeui rf?an einai rf, einai dunaton na exei grigorimetafora dedomenon etsi oste o allos upologistis na mi sernetai sto inetrnet?

 

 

episis kati allo. an o dikos mou upologistis exei to dsl, kai tis aderfis mou mpainei me modemaki, gia ton upologisti tis aderfis mou tha plirono extra? i epeidi exo adsl(kai an upothesoume otri valo kai isp kai provider vivodi), tha einai dorean?

sas euxaristo

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1on) O texnikos mporei na er8ei na sou ta kanei ola alla prepei na plhrwseis extra...de 3erw posa afou egw to ekana monos mou alla nomizw peripou 50 eurw...

2on)mporeis na baleis kai oles tis suskeues tou spitiou sto dsl phone...apla paizei h sundesmologia...oti thl 8eleis na exeis dslphone prepei na sundeetai me to cosco ata pou 8a sou dwsei h vivodi...an px to baleis prin er8ei h grammh spiti sou tote oti erxetai 8a einai dslphone...katalabes to skeptiko?

3on) Ta filtra einai gia na mhn exeis parasita sto thl sou...Dikaiousai ena filtro h ena splitter...O splitter einai autos pou diaxwrizei thn klassikh grammh thlefwnou(0-4khz) me ta data (>4khz)...An esy baleis mono vivodi,dld xwris ote, tote de xreiazesai splitter ...

4on)analogws to router pou 8a pareis...ta filtra kai o splitter den einai akriba...

5on)To asirmato den exei ap'oso 3erw polu aktinobolia..Pio polu paizei na exei to asurmato thl sou :-P H metafora dedomenwn paizei apo 56mbps mexri kai 100mbps..

6on)an h aderfh sou mpainei me modemaki,dld 8a xrhsimopoiei thn thlefwnikh grammh gia na kanei dial up kai na sunde8ei, profanws 8a plhrwnei....mou fainetai blakeia na exeis dsl kai na kanei allo pc sto idio spiti dial up!!!Eleos!De 8a to skeftomoun kan...

Elpizw na boh8hsa...

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para polu. sas efxaristo. tha paro tora til ti vivodi kai tah epaneltho me apories. thanx

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loipon. exo polles apories. meta apo polles oes omilias me texnikous ematha ta exis.

i vivodi den exei komvo stin perioxi mou opote de mporo na exo statheri tilefonia vivodi.

i 512 exei 41.5 eura

mou eipan oti prepei na agoraso mia karta diktuoy gia ton palio upologisti(o kainourgios tha exei pano, kai mou dinoun to router speedtouch 585 97 euro kai kano ti douleia mou. auto to router einai asurmato?

i karta diktuou pou prepei na paro prepei na einai asurmati gia na sundeontaoi asurmata oi 2 pc?(gia na mi mpleko me kalodia...

i forthnet einai apateonisa. den exoun grammes gia na exo stathero til forthnet(opos exei i vivodi).

me to adsl in a box dinoun 4 ores astika dorean. oxi uperastika. ase pou einai 55 eura to olo pragma. opote paei aklafti i vivodi.

 

o ote exei voice over ip upiresies?

fantazomai oxi sosta?

diladi mallon i moni mou epilogi einai na perimeno i vivodi na valei komvo stin perioxi mou gia na exo stathero voip tilefono.

 

telika ti na kano?

pairno to router pou dinei i vivodi kai mia asurmati karta diktuoy kai etsi enono tous upologistes?

thanx

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Nai auto 8a kaneis me tous upologistes...

Dld esy de mporeis na kaneis full llu apo vivodi...shared mporeis h arus?dld to pagio grammhs dsl 8a to plhrwneis ston ote h sth vivodi?Logika gia na les 41.5 plhrwneis kai isp kai grammh sthn vivodi...se auth thn periptwsh mporeis stantar na exeis kai dsl phone....

Auto pataei panw sthn dsl ths vivodi kai me ena cisco ata pou sou dinoun exeis kai 2 noumera thlefwnou.(me 8 eurw+fpa 500 lepta astika-uperastika)

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i grammi tha einai tou ote kai o provider tha einai vivodi. apla tha ta plirono ola sti vivodi kai ekeini tha ta dinei ston ote

 

pos tha exo stathero tilefonovivodi? please exigise ligo parapano mperdeutika. ti na paro na tous po?

mou eipan oti den exei komvo vivodi papagou. mporo na epofelitho tou dsl kai na exo stathero tilefono me kapoio all otropo? i esto apo alli etairia? please help me

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ara 8a exeis arus...sto arys de 3erw an mporeis na baleis dslphone...einai thlefwno voip...mesw internet...kai me th boh8eia tou cisco ata milas apo ta kanonika sou thlefwna...Pare kai rwta tous an mporeis na baleis dslphone...an eisai gia arus xlwmo pantws...

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popo, polu me mperdepses re file. ti einai to arus? do to full llu de xero ti eini. apla xero oti einai pio ftino apo to shared.

to dslphone de proupothetei komvo vivodi?

to cisco ata ti einai?

aman autoi oi oroi. kala imoun me to palio pc mou.popo to kefali mou. o ote dinei dslphjone tilefonia?

uparxei kamia alli etairia na tsekaro?

euxaristo

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Oxi den dinei o ote ap'oti 3erw...

To cisco ata einai mia suskeuh pou sundeetai me to ethernet me to internet kai me ta sumbatika thlefwna kai sou dinei thlefwnia mesw internet.

To dslphone nomizw oti 8elei kombo vivodi...giauto sou eipa me arus xlwmo.

Arus einai otan pairneis grammh apo ote kai isp apo vivodi

shared llu einai otan exeis grammh kai isp apo vivodi alla "patane" panw se grammh ote

full llu einai otan h vivodi sou fernei dikia ths grammh kai ta exeis ola apo auth kai mporeis na kopseis ton ote teleiws...Sto shared llu de mporeis na kopseis ton ote teleiws giati xrhsimopoieis to kalwdio tou gia na exeis internet(mesw vivodi)

Ara mallon esy exeis arys kai mallon de mporeis na exeis dslphone...

Mhpws na metakomizes :-P

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pira til kai tin tellas kai mou lene oti i 512 exei 49 xoris fpa(eno i vivodi exei 41.5 me fpa). kai exo 4 ores mono astika.alla auto ginetai me tellas telephony,den exo grammi tellas.ote.

 

ti mperdema einai auto re gamoto?

i vivodi den mporei na to kanei auto?

afou exei to xamilotero pagio, an eixe kai vivodi telephomy, mallon tha sumfere. de xeo ti na kano. mporei kapoios na voithisei?

 

 

mipos na valo 384 gia na einai pio ftini?

 

mikos kana adsl in a box plus?

ti mporo na kano gia na exo ki dorean xronoi omilias se stathera kai uperastika?

ta neuramou. thanx to everyone

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eevlepa to adsl in a BOX. LEEI DINEI ena ADSL router υψηλών επιδόσεων Linksys WAG54G. auto eina router pou upostirizei asurmato diktuo? diladi an paro mia asurmati karta diktuou tha kano ti douleia mou?

kai einai eukolo gia enan asxeto san emena na to kano autop?(tin egatastasi ennoo. de xreiazetai alles mprizes?)molis teleiosei to tetramino, ego mporo na anavathmiso se 512 kai na exo akoma tis 4 ores dorean to mina? please help me. exo mperdeutei. mipos telika sumferoun ta paketa? uparxei kapoi oallo paromoio paketo pou dinei dorean asurmato router pou na mporo na kano ti douleia mou? thanx