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[Neurotic_Fest]

Epeidi den akousa kanenan allo na to leei tha to po ego, exete skeftei pote osoi den exete paei akoma tous tropous na min pate pote fantaroi ; Ta pragmata exoun allaksei arketa ta teleutaia xronia kai isos polloi den to gnorizoun . Perissoteres plirofories gia osous endiaferontai sto site http://www.omhroi.gr .Den blaptei na dieurinete tis epiloges sas oti kai na kanete sto telos , toulaxiston tha eiste pio konta stin pragmatikotita.

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katse na pane kai alloi sto site na doune ti lene merika animals ekei mesa gia thn katarghsh kai ta leme edw... Den mporw na pisteyw oti uparxoun atoma toso fugopona kai toso 'xesthdes' pou den mporoun na ante3oun ena diaforetiko periballon me ligo duskoles sun8hkes. Makria apo th manoula tous!! O stratos akoma kai stis meres mas einai mia empeiria, oxi toso gia to pws 8a ginoume maximoi enantia se mia epikeimenh apeilh giati den einai kati pi8ano auto, alla gia to pws mporoume na zhsoume ena mikro diasthma se mia mikrh koinwnia opou 8a exoume na kanoume me ena diplano pou den ton gnwrizoume kala. An kapoios den mporei na epibiwsei se auth thn koinwnia tote sorry alla thn pathse kai sth megalh koinwnia...

 

Oso gia to oikonomiko twn EPOP stratiwtwn nomizw oti einai polla ta e3oda tou ellhnikou kratous. Kalutera na plhrwnw forous na kanw ena dialeimma apo th zwh mou na skeftw ti 8a kanw meta kai na me taizei kai na me koimizei to ellhniko kratos para na ta dinoume stous epaggelmaties pou pisteyte me to 80% apo autous einai epaggelmaties effedroi, dhladh mono th loufa exoun sto mualo tous. Mono me tetoious sunanastrefomoun. To kalo einai oti egw mporousa kai na tous timwrhsw gia thn apa8eia kai th dhmosioupallhlikh skeyh tous. Poso 8a 8ela na to kanw auto kai stous upallhlous twn dhmosiwn uphresiwn!!!

An o stratos ginei teleiws mis8oforikos tote apla 8a gemisoume 'dhmosious upallhlous' kai ston tomea tou ellhnikou stratou kai 8a ginoun ta pragmata xeirotera...

 

Den 8elw na milhsw gia thn lush merikwn na kanoun tous trelous kai tous xtuphmenous gia na paroun I5 giati 8a ginw kakos... Ase pou 8a mou thn poune oi admins kai mou aresei kai to forum kai to nick mou... Den 8elw na fugw e3aitias giwtadwn...

[Neurotic_Fest]

Ego pisteuo akribos to antitheto i thiteia einai xasimo xronou kai xrimaton toso gia ton strateusimo oso kai gia to kratos, edo den einai o katallilos xoros omos gia na sizitisoume kati tetoio, apantiseis sta epixeirimata sou tha breis sto site pou egrapsa arkei na psakseis kai na min eisai prokateilimmenos.Tha sxoliaso monaxa to' 'xesthdes' pou den mporoun na ante3oun ena diaforetiko periballon me ligo duskoles sun8hkes. Makria apo th manoula tous!!', Apo tous 282.000 anipotaktous mono oi 15.000 einai sto esoteriko, polloi apo tous ipoloipous den distasan na figoun ekso gia na spoudasoun kai na zisoun ekei apo mikroi poli makria apo tin manoula tous.Oso gia tous giotades mexri prin apo merika xronia eprepe na exeis ar@@@@a gia na pareis I5, tora omologoumenos exei ginei paneukolo.I thesi sou mou thimizei mia frasi pou mallon ta sinopsizei ola 'afou efaga ego ta sk@@a tha ta fate oloi'.Ego pantos den tha ta fao kai xiliades alloi mexri i thiteia na katargithei kai na moiazei me anekdoto gia ta simerina paidia. :grin:

[prantzos]

oxi mono skata den efaga alla perasa kai wraia. Mhn to pare3hgeis omws htan duskola. Apla kai apo ta duskola tis perissoteres fores kerdizeis. Emena mou emeinan empeiries pou 8a tis 8umamai mia zwh. Oxi opws oi paterades mas fusika pou oi istories tous htan poso duskola perasane kai posous mhnes makria htan apo to spiti tous, wraies empeiries me gelio kai filous. Giati akoma kai stis meres mas sto strato denesai me atoma. Pisteuw oti opoios den paei strato xanei polla. Kerdizei mono ena xrono apo th zwh tou pou 8a ton perasei h sta biblia h sth douleia. Twra pia me toses adeies pou mporei na parei kaneis den xaneis kai polla. Prin loipon grayw to post mh nomizeis diabasa kai liga pragmata sto site. Ena paidi eipe oti phre ptuxio mesa sto strato. Ki egw para trixa.

 

Den m aresei auth h frash pou eipes : mexri prin apo merika xronia eprepe na exeis ar@@@@a gia na pareis I5

Den katalaba ti to timhtiko exei na pareis I5. To swsto einai oti mexri prin merika xronia h8ele ar@@@@a na pas strato. Twra einai san na eisai sto big brother. Trws pineis koimasai, a kai sth skopia mlas me th gkomena h me tis alles skopies gia gkomenes...

Enas filos eserne th mana tou 2 mhnes apo dw kai apo kei gia na apodei3ei oti exei melagxolia kai genika oti einai arrwstos gia na mhn paei strato kai na parei to I5. To 8ewrw 3eftila kai ntroph, na talaipwrhsw th mana mou gia 12 mhnakia strato ta opoia pernane 'etsi' an eisai magkas kai 3ereis na pernas kala.

 

ps1 : A kai fusika na katargh8ei h 8hteia otan omws er8ei h wra. Dhladh otan ta lefta twn forwn katalhgoun gia ekei pou proorizontai kai oi epop kanoun swsta th douleia tous. Oxi oti ftaine mono autoi alla kuriws autoi pou tous ekpaideuoune. Tespa megalh koubenta einai auth.

 

ps2 : Kai fusika den lew gi autous pou spoudazoun e3w. Den einai logiko na diakoyoun etsi th stadiodromia tous gia na kanoun strato. Otan kai an gurisoun 8a doun ti 8a kanoun. Etsi? Eipame na epixeirhmatologoume oxi na @@rologoume!!!

[Neurotic_Fest]

Opos eipa den nomizo oti einai o katallilos xoros gia na sizitisoume ena tetoio thema alla as afiso auto to problima se kapoion mod na to krinei kai na sou apantiso.Den katalabaino entelei ti pisteueis, m'exeis mperdepsei.Mou les oti esi perases kala sto strato alla den mporo na katalabo giati akribos ipostirizeis oti i thiteia prepei na einai ipoxreotiki.Pio kato anafereis ousiastika oti oi efedroi plironoun tin kakodiaxeirisi ton poron apo ena dieftharmeno stratiotiko mixanismo kai genika tin parakmiaki nootropia ton diaxeiriston tou strateumatos.Diladi i ipoxreotiki thiteia einai sindedemeni me tin simerini athlia katastasi ton enoplon dinameon kai ean kapoios ithele na dimiourgisei pliros epeggelmatiko strato tha eprepe prota na antimetopisi auti tin katastasi pou diaionizete.Me alla logia prepei na exoume klirotous gia na mporoun oi kathe logis apateones na kleboun to dimosio xrima mesa apo tis polles maures tripes pou i simerini domi ton E.D ipostirizei kai kaliptei.Den exo kamia diafonia an katalaba kala ta legomena sou , i diafora brisketai stin antimetopisi,einai san na mou les oti xrostao s'ena prostati-ntabatzi ena poso , prin tou to doso na mou to klebei, na mou zitaei na me ga@@@ei kai apo pano epeidi tou xrostao kai go na dexomai.Den aresei se olous na tous ga@@@e xoris pareksigisi.Telos gia to I5 einai profanes giati itheles ar@@@@a gia na to pareis , ousiastika se odigouse se sxedon pliri epaggelmatiko apokleismo kai en merei koinoniko.Mporei esi na eisai pio patriotis apo mena, mporei na nomizeis oti ipireteis tin patrida , ego blepo oti tha ipiretousa ena matso kleftes kai tipote allo afou outos i allos i pragmatiki stratiotiki ekpaideusi einai gia klamata.To simantikotero omos einai oti theoro ithiko dikaioma mou na pao i na min pao, kaneis den exei to dikaioma sto onoma opoioudipote idanikou na se ipoxreosei na skotoseis kai na skototheis.

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den m aresei o diaiwnismos. Alla epeidh s auth th zwh den prokeitai na alla3ei h katastash sthn Ellada an den wrimasei h politikh ligo, den eimai diate8eimenos na plhrwnw forous giati bariountai h fobountai orismenoi neoi na pane strato. Den 8a pe8anoume kiolas me ton strato... Isa isa pou mporeis na peraseis kai kala. Auto lew. Opws epishs mporeis na ma8eis polu kala sto strato na mhn sthneis k..o pou les ki esu. Exw pei hdh oti sto strato den ma8aineis oute pws na kratas oplo oute pws na antimetwpizeis ex8ro. Kai logiko fainetai pou oi fantaroi to mono pou kanoun einai kuriws sunthrhsh e3oplismou kai ta basika. K..o 8a esthna an afhna kai allous tempelhdes dhmosious upallhlous na broune douleia pou apla limaroun ta nuxakia tous na mhn plhgw8oune ka8ws 8a 3unontai kai na pairnoune 1000 kai 1100 eurw pou egw gia na ta bgalw auta 8a prepei na bgalw ta matia mou sthn o8onh 10 wres th mera. Auto einai ntabatziliki file mou... Hdh arketous tetoious xaramofaides exoume sthn Ellada. Gi auto loipon as pane ta paidakia (apo 18 etwn kiolas) strato.

 

An ennoeis oti to I5 palia htan duskolo logw twn epiptwsewn nai fusika. Alla egw nomiza oti eleges oti opoios to ekane epithdes 8a htan kai a3iepainos. Toulaxiston palia eixes na xaseis polla. kai kati ma8aines sto strato kai perissotera atoma eixe opote den ephzes sto skopeto kai koinwnikos apokleismos uphrxe. Opote kai tote xazomara htan na pareis I5 kai poso mallon twra pou den einai kai tipota to spoudaio. Oi fantaroi kaluterh zwh kai apo foithtes kanoune.

 

Eides ti apla kai logika einai ola?Den eimai apolutos oute strimeno kefali, logika milaw.Den einai momfh auto. Gia to site pou eida pio prin paei auto pou lew. Katastrofologia sketh...

[Neurotic_Fest]

Sebasti alla kseperasmeni apopsi kata tin gnomi mou, siga siga pisteuo oti akolouthoume ton dromo is Ispanias ki allon xoron pou anagkastikan na katargisoun tin thiteia noritera ap'ta sxedia tous giati i neolaia arniotan tin katataksi me ton ena i ton allo tropo, auto pou ginetai tora me ta I5 kai tin anipotaksia ginontan stin Gallia prin 15-20 xronia kai stin Ispania pio prosfata, kapoia stigmi i proseleusi stateusimon aplos stamatise, i sintriptiki pleiopsifia ton neon apefeugan tin strateusi ki'etsi gia na min katarreusi to sistima oi politikoi epespeusan tin epaggelamtopoiisi tou stratou.Apo tous 3-4.000 anipotaktous esoterikou prin 4-5 xronia exoume 15.000 simera kai milao gia atoma gia ta opoia exei eksakribothei oti briskontai sto esoteriko kai oxi gia tou eksoterikou pou mpainobgainoun opote theloun stin xora xoris na tous enoxlei kaneis.Ase ta I5, 27.000 an den kano lathos apo to 1997.Kai ta noumera auta pisteuo oti tha auksithoun almatodos oso o kosmos tha enimeronete.Praktika na sou po tin alitheia den iparxei ipoxreotiki thiteia aplos oi perissoteroi den to kseroun, pou kai pou to kratos deixnei ta dontia tou kai katadikazei kanena gnosto antirrisia mono pros paradeigmatismo.Ta teleutaia xronia omos mono 2-3 katadikes iparxoun gia anipotaksia kai milame gia atoma pou exoun steilei epistoles arnisis i exoun emfanistei sta KEN dilonontas tin arnisi tous, einai san kokkino pani diladi.Gi'auto min katigoreis toso ta paidia pou arnountai na ipiretisoun oso to kratos pou sigkaliptei to olo fainomeno kai parapliroforei skopima gia na min katalaboun oi neoi tin dinami pou exoun.Oso gia tin strateusi sta 18 lipamai alla to krineis to thema entelos egoistika, kata tin gnomi mou i nootropia pou thelei tin katataksi sta 18 einai aimostagis, autoi oi anthropoi mprosta stin diapistosi oti to sistima katarreei den distazoun na mantrosoun tin neolaia se mia apo tis pio krisimes ilikies opou o allos den exei anaptiksei akomi tis amines tou, den exei diamorfosei mia pliri prosopikotita ,akribos gia ton elegksoun kai pio eukola, mono kai mono gia na sinexistei autos o faulos kiklos.O kairos tha deiksei agapite poios tha diapseustei.

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Fusika kai 3erw oti ekei odhgoumaste kai oti o stratos prepei na ginei mis8oforikos alla gia epollosth fora (kourasthka na sto lew) kai auto 8a apotuxei logw ths adiaforias pou 8a exoun oi dhmosioi upallhloi, oi epop, tous opoious den 8a plhrwnoume mono faghto kai metaforika kai stegh, alla oloklhro mis8o na zhsoun oi an8rwpoi tis oikogeneies tous.

Oso gia to an mporoun na eleg3oun pio eukola ta 18xrona... den 3erw alla an exeis parathrhsei ki esu oso pernane ta xronia apo tis pio mikres hlikies blepoume 'atas8alies' sunexeia... Dhladh pio eukola 8a sunennoh8ei o karabanas me ton 25xrono para me to mikro pou einai panw sthn trela tou. Kai pisteye me oi mikroteroi den ekfobizontai toso eukola me fulakes ktl ktl... Gi auto kai protimoun morfwmenous kai megaluterous se hlikia gia dokimous kai stratonomous gia paradeigma.

Apla pisteuw oti an o stratos sunexisei na einai upoxrewtikos kalo 8a htan na paei kaneis mikros na mhn tou fanei oute kourastikos oute megalhs diarkeias kai to kuriotero na mhn tou koyei sth mesh oute tis spoudes oute thn prooptikh tou gia douleia. 8a exei kai ton xrono na 3ekourastei apo tis panellhnies kai na apofasisei ti 8a kanei sto mellon kai 8a einai makria apo to spiti tou na wrimasei ligo.

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oxi mono skata den efaga alla perasa kai wraia.

 

parolo poy eixa kanei 12 aghmata, 4 "pelekys" , kai oxi apla na mazepseis ton loxo, alla na bgaleis k 60 armata ejw (oi monoi mixanokinitoi PZ stin rodo), parolo poy phga kai se 2 fwties, parolo poy den eimai stratotavlos, ena exw na pw...ante na ginei kanenas parmeniwnas na pame diakopes! (parepiptontws, eixa ma8ei rodo kai faliraki ap' ejw, ka8e mera ekei gyrnoysame...ayth htan zwh!)

 

to 8ema den einai h monada poy 8a peseis, alla pws 8a deis tin katastash...to pairneis apofash, alliws den ginetai, pas k frontizeis na peraseis oso kalytera ginetai...tote kaname kai 547 meres..twra poy kanoyn 365, kai exoun kai catering, min pa8oyn tpt, ti na mas poyn?

 

kapoios anefere stin arxh oti den prokeitai na trabijei foto me to kinito se arma h kati tetoio...oxi bebaia, alla otan pas se kamia askisi, japlwseis katw apo mia elia (askhsh se kafeteria api8ano...), kai deis ayth tin fwto meta apo 6-7 xronia, tote to shzhtame....rwthste k edw!otan eimastan mesa, metroysame mia mia tis meres, kalyyytera ejw legame...twra blepw seires, kai oloi lene mesa kai pali mesa!

[Anexann]

Ρε παιδιά εντάξει με το στρατό. Μεγάλοι άνθρωποι είμαστε και είναι μια εμπειρία της ζωής. Το όλο θέμα πάντως είναι off-topic. Άντε γιατί αλλού ξεκινήσαμε και αλλού φτάσαμε...

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[ATG]

Ας επανελθουμε στο θεμα μας για να μην φωναξω τον κλειδαρα...

[panospc]

Αυτή την στιγμή βρίσκομαι στο Πλάτη του Έβρου στην Ορεστειάδα μεταξύ Τούρκικων και Βουλγάρικων συνόρων στην άκρη της Ελλάδας και στέλνω μήνυμα από το Internet Cafe που έχει το ΚΨΜ Σκέφτομαι να αγοράσω και εγώ ένα κινήτο μετά από αρκετά χρόνια γιατί μου είναι απαραίτητο αλλά και γιατί θέλω να πάίζω και κανένα παιχνιδάκι τις ελεύθερες ώρες γιατί δεν περνάει με τίποτα η ώρα εδώ. Είμαι ανάμεσα στο κ700 και το k750 αλλά μάλλον θα προτιμήσω το k700 μιας και είναι φθηνό.

[KYRIAKOS_GKLEZAKOS]

Πλατη Εβρου ειπες φιλαρακι ε...σε ποια υπηρεσια αν επιτρεπεται?

[amartolos]

to k750i ti leei?egw eimai 536 alex/poli!!!opoios einai na mpei as mpei twra giati twra teleytaia akougetai poly na ginei 18mino i theitia!!!paides edw 291 mexri stigmis exw perasei zaxari 5mines twra se 6o SP korintho kai 536!!!kai gia ta neoudia pou mpainoun twra(293)parte oti thelete no problem kalyteri lysi einai to laptop. lele 291