The Official XBOX360 topic

[Slay]

Επισης σε ενα καταστημα στο Θιβετ εγιναν δυο ακυρωσεις παραγγελιων.Για πηγαινε τσεκαρε το. Λεγεται οτι εχει αρχισει να ξεσπαει σκανδαλο μεταξυ των μοναχων...

xekola epiteloys, prota ferneis san epixeirhma (geleio) tis proparagkelies sto amazon, alla tora poy soy gyrise mpoymerangk den soy aresei?

[Stormwatch]

Οταν ποσταρα εγω το θεμα ηταν ειδηση στο xboxscene.com ,τραβα τσεκαρε αν θες.

Το να περιμενει καποιος να πεσει μια θεση το Χ360 στο Amazon.co.uk μετα απο καιρο για να το ποσταρει ειναι το αστειο.

Ανελαβε λοιπον και εσυ να μας πληροφορεις καθημερινα για το φλεγον αυτο ζητημα.

Αλλωστε εσυ ξεκινησες με τις μαζικες ακυρωσεις παραγγελιων (λιγοτερο γελοιο αραγε? ) που ανακαλυψες...

[Slay]

Ayto htan to arxiko soy post poy xekinhse ayto to thema me to amazon.

Το Amazon.co.uk θετει σαν ημερομηνια κυκλοφοριας την 28/11/2005.

Μαλιστα το Χ360 βρισκεται στην πρωτη θεση στo sales rank, πανω απο το PSP που κυκλοφορει σε λιγες μερες.

 

Μαλλον οι Αγγλοι δεν απογοητευθηκαν τοοοσο και δεν αρχισαν μαζικες ακυρωσεις παραγγελιων ,οπως μερικοι εδω μεσα ισχυριζονταν...

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...6724795-2665465

ego den blepo kanena link se kanena site poy na to leei san eidhsh, anyway opos kai na exei elpizo na katalabes oti den eixe nohma na sygkrineis psp me 360, to xero oti otan to eides xarhkes opos xarhkes malon kai xtes otan eides to arthro sto teamxbox gia thn gpu toy ps3, alla etsi einai h zoh ta kala pragmata kratane ligo ;-)

[BlizardBill]

Απλά απάντησα στην παραπάνω παρατήρηση που έβαλε ο slay , η οποία ίσως φαινόταν σωστή αν το Xbox έμενε στην πρώτη, άντε στην δεύτερη θέση, αλλά τώρα μάλλον όχι.

 

Μπορούμε να υποθέσουμε ότι δεν γίνεται χαμός για το xbox360 , και ο κόσμος περιμένει .

Εκτός αν κάνω λάθος κάπου .

 

Edit:

Τώρα είναι στην πέμπτη θέση, θα προσπαθήσω να ενημερώσω μόλις το ενδιαφέρον του κόσμου αρχίσει πραγματικά να ανεβαίνει, όσο πλησιάζει η μέρα κυκλοφορίας .

[Slay]

On Topic tora

 

US Retailers: Xbox 360 Primed for Thanksgiving

Retailer chains point to November 25 as hardware launch date in US.

 

 

August 31, 2005 - Microsoft plans to launch the Xbox 360 as late as Friday, November 25, the day after Thanksgiving, with software potentially hitting shelves earlier that week, sources from three US retailers told IGN today.

 

The three retail chains, all of whom independently pointed to Friday, November 25, as the hardware launch day, received email describing launch data late Monday. Launch day games have been re-assigned from early November to Monday, November 22, as potential first day ship dates. When contacted, Microsoft would not confirm or deny the information. In previous official announcements, Microsoft has said Xbox 360 will vaguely launch this fall.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/647/647185p1.html

[privateer]

Xbox 360 retail Q&As for HDD & backwards comp. leaked

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000750056831/

[privateer]

Xbox 360: New Details from GDC Europe

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/9133/Xbox-360-New-Details-from-GDC-Europe/

[Slay]

360 Buckling Under PhysX

PS3 can handle it; 360 features, however, are limited.

As Valve demonstrated with Half-Life 2, true-to-life physics can have a lasting impact on gameplay, and next-generation should prove that notion even more so. Ageia hopes to cash in on this trend with their PhysX line of physic-dedicated accelerator cards, of which BFG Technologies was recently announced as second add-on card partner.

 

What's interesting, however, is how this plays out between PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. At the European Game Developers Conference, Extreme Tech noted that the company confirmed plans to offer software-based rendering for single and dual-core PCs, PCs decked out with PhysX chips and software versions for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.

 

That makes sense to offer development solutions on all platforms, but what's interesting is Ageia's report that Xbox 360 can't handle all of the PhysX's features because of architecture limitations. PhysX offers technologies ranging from physical object interactions to fluid-based particle effects like water and smoke and reportedly only PS3 and PCs will be able to handle all the goods.

 

What will Xbox 360 miss out on? PhysX's fluid-based technology. How exactly that impacts Xbox 360's future is for all intents and purposes minimal, but it's strange to see a split between the two machines after such rabid debate over which one had the edge.

http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143371

[Daredevil]

ehm basika den mporw na katalabw pws 3eroun oti 8a mporei na to kanei handle to ps3 afou kai ta alpha dev kits pou exoun kapoioi developers eina enas 2,4 cell me 7800 panw.... mas douleyoun omadikws blepw....

 

ki an ginete mhn postaroume otidhpote arnhtika trello broume sto net ap oti phgh nanai katantaei ekneyristhko

[jimbrav]

ehm basika den mporw na katalabw pws 3eroun oti 8a mporei na to kanei handle to ps3 afou kai ta alpha dev kits pou exoun kapoioi developers eina enas 2' date='4 cell me 7800 panw.... mas douleyoun omadikws blepw....

 

ki an ginete mhn postaroume otidhpote arnhtika trello broume sto net ap oti phgh nanai katantaei ekneyristhko[/quote']

 

 

kai idios otan einai ola sta english....

[Stormwatch]

"ego den blepo kanena link se kanena site poy na to leei san eidhsh"

 

 

Τσιμπα ενα link τοτε... http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/news-archive-21-8-2005.php

 

Ειναι ολα τα news απο XboxScene για την εβδομαδα απο 21/8. Η ειδηση ειναι της 23ης Αυγουστου, κοιτα λιγο κατω απο τη μεση...

 

Παρε και την ειδηση οπως την εχουν γραμμενη...

"* On Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.fr the 'Premium' Xbox 360 already reached #1 on Amazon's sales rank, ahead of the Sony PSP, to be released September 1st in Europe. The Core version lacks on the 197th place. "

 

 

Τωρα για τις χαρες κλπ που λες, μονο και μονο οτι ψαχνεις τοσο λεπτομερως να βρεις ειδησεις (παντα αρνητικες) για μια κονσολα που εχεις αποφασισει πριν κυκλοφορησει οτι ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΓΟΡΑΣΕΙΣ δειχνει οτι εσυ προβληματιζεσαι, λες και εισαι μετοχος της Sony.Αντιθετα εγω, που ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΑΓΟΡΑΣΩ PS3, δεν με ενδιαφερει καθολου το τι κανει το PS3, μαθαινω τα πολυ "χοντρα" νεα και ΔΕΝ ποσταρω στο PS3 forum (εδω που τα λεμε ουτε εσυ πολυποσταρεις εκει...)

Που σημαινει οτι δεν εχω το αγχος να αποδειξω στους "αντιφρονουντες" το "σωστοτερο" της δικης μου επιλογης.Τοσα χρονια οι επιλογες μου ηταν οι σωστες και ειλικρινα δεν με ενδιαφερει καθολου ποια θα ειναι η επιλογη του αλλου.Αρα τα περι χαρας και λυπης μπορεις να τα κρατησεις για τον εαυτο σου...

[Slay]

ehm basika den mporw na katalabw pws 3eroun oti 8a mporei na to kanei handle to ps3 afou kai ta alpha dev kits pou exoun kapoioi developers eina enas 2' date='4 cell me 7800 panw.... mas douleyoun omadikws blepw....

 

ki an ginete mhn postaroume otidhpote arnhtika trello broume sto net ap oti phgh nanai katantaei ekneyristhko[/quote']

einai aplo to SDK kai ton dyo konsolon exei kai to physics engine ths Ageia, kai sthn mia konsola paei poly kalytera apo thn allh, poy to briskeis to paraxeno, eidika apo thn stigmh poy to lene aytoi poy to exoyn ftiaxei to engine?

Epishs to 1up einai gaming site kai apo ta poly megala malista, opote den einai kati san to Inquier h kati poy egrapse kapoios se kapoio forum.

[Daredevil]

allo omws na mhn mporeis na kanei mia sygkekrimenh etaireia implement se mia konsola logo sdk ki allo logo periorismou hardwarem, pou pali akougete koulo na mporeis na kanei implement kati se alpha dev kits midleware gia to epomeno hardware mias kai allazei olh h domh tou hardware, ki ante to ekane me emulation(pou siga mhn sou katsoun na kanoun emulate twra) pou to eidan to perfomance.

 

 

pantws anaforika to sdk tis sony akoma ginete develop kai stoxos tis sony einai na parousiasei ena windows based development tool opws to xna me poikilia apo tools kai na dexonte extra middleware(software meta3y machine kai sdk me dika tou api pou prosferei kapoia extra functions se ayta) apo trites etaireies opws h parappanw gia physics, ta opoia midleware ws gnwsto den mporoun na ginontai compile apo ta sdk pou yparxoun alla na einai anaptygmena se low level code kai na periexoun dika tous api ta opote den ginete to sdk na exei kanena physic engine

 

kai lew ok oi typoi phgan na programathsoun se low level code kai den tous bghke logo limitations to xbox360 gia to ps3 pws 3eroun oti einai ok kai super. epishs pws ginete sta shmerina pc me tos monopyrinous x86 epe3ergastes kai tis katwteres apo thn nea gpu tis nvidia na ginete kai sto xbox360 na mhn ginete?

 

to 1up ws gnwsto h etaiereia pou to exei kanei publish to oficial playstation magazine mazi me ta ypoloipa periodika tis opote hmmmm gia xbxox360vsps3 eidhseis

[Slay]

allo omws na mhn mporeis na kanei mia sygkekrimenh etaireia implement se mia konsola logo sdk ki allo logo periorismou hardwarem, pou pali akougete koulo na mporeis na kanei implement kati se alpha dev kits

akoma kai ta alpha devkits toy ps3 exoyn ton cell mesa kai se ayton trexei to physics engine opote to epixeirhma soy den stekei, akoma kai sthn xamhloterh syxnothta leitoyrgias toy h arxitektonikh den allazei, kai einai profanes apo ta legomena toys oti h arxitektonikh ayth einai poly poio konta sto PPU toys gia ta pc, ap'oti einai h CPU toy 360.

epishs pws ginete sta shmerina pc me tos monopyrinous x86 epe3ergastes kai tis katwteres apo thn nea gpu tis nvidia na ginete kai sto xbox360 na mhn ginete?

ta shmerina pc trexoyn kala to physics engine ME thn hardware lysh ths Ageia, xoris ayth pianoyn 5-7fps se dualcore

 

to 1up ws gnwsto h etaiereia pou to exei kanei publish to oficial playstation magazine mazi me ta ypoloipa periodika tis opote hmmmm gia xbxox360vsps3 eidhseis

kai ayto ps3 biased einai? http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1855078,00.asp

[iSpO_fAcTo]

Unreal Engine 3 and the Xbox 360 Hard Drive

 

Now that Microsoft officially announced the two Xbox 360 SKUs, the Core and Premium Edition, it has been revealed that Xbox 360 games must work if the detachable hard drive is not present. Although developers can take advantage of the hard drive to speed up loading times, Microsoft has worked with developers for the past year to assure all Xbox 360 games work without the hard drive.

 

This caused a big splash in the community and raised one major concern: Will developers be able to fully utilize the hard drive if it is mandatory that games work without it?

 

Considering the fact that in addition to Gears of War, Epic Games also develops the Unreal Engine tools and technology, which has been licensed by several game companies, we wanted to know how does the lack of a hard drive affects an Unreal Engine 3-powered game.

 

 

We had the chance to interview Mark Rein, Vice President of Epic Games, to discuss the implications of the recent announcements and how Unreal Engine 3 deals with an Xbox 360 Core system.

 

 

How does the "virtual" lack of a hard drive affect the Unreal Engine 3? Would that force Epic Games to cater the UE3 to the lowest spec SKU, in this case the Xbox 360 Core System, or would you allow the developers to take advantage of the hard drive when present?

 

Mark Rein: We’ve designed the streaming system in Unreal Engine 3 with the expectation that we wouldn’t have a hard drive at our disposal so there’s nothing that needs to change at this point. Developers can take advantage of the availability of a hard drive in numerous ways. That’s not really an engine issue but more about what a particular developer decides the functionality of their particular game should be. I would certainly expect many games to be able to take advantage of the hard drive.

 

 

 

As soon as we heard that Microsoft informed developers to not rely on a hard drive, being mandatory for games to work without one, we wondered if that kills the Seamless World Support feature found in the UE3 that allows the engine to anticipate the content that will be needed and stream it in advance?

 

Mark Rein: We designed our streaming system around the optical disc. While we would have loved to have a hard drive on every machine getting 512MB of memory, rather than 256MB, was a far bigger win for us. The additional memory allows us to produce scenes with truly next-generation visuals and provides room to buffer the data that is being streamed in.

 

You revealed at E3 2005 that in the case of Unreal Tournament 2007 the game will continuously stream content not only to allow big worlds such as those featured in the Conquest mode, but to also have matches starting right after the previous one ended. Hypothetically, could all this still be possible on the Xbox 360 without a hard drive?

 

Mark Rein: Hypothetically this should be possible on Xbox 360 but thus far the majority of the effort on UT2007 has been aimed at the PC where we would naturally expect systems to have more available system memory. Also I should clarify that the idea is to load the next map while you’re watching the scoreboard which appears when a match is completed.

 

The Unreal Engine 3 is being used to develop massively multiplayer games like WEBZEN’s MMOFPS, Huxley. Can an MMO that uses the Unreal Engine 3 work without a hard drive?

 

Mark Rein: You could certainly design an MMO to work around not having a hard drive, and I know of one unannounced MMO, using Unreal Engine 3, that plans to do that.

 

 

http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1281/Unreal-Engine-3-and-the-Xbox-360-Hard-Drive/p1/