The Official PS3 topic

[aGka8l]

Πως γίνεται να δίνει το Play.com στο bundle τα Formula 1 και Singstar, από τη στιγμή που δεν θα είναι launch titles;

ελα μου ντε

[Exoskeletor]

Ma den ta dinei re guys, paragelia kaneis kai oooopote erthoun sta stelnoun

[ProEvoFan]

kala krasia...xrest thymasai re sy pou eixa rotisei apo pou to pires...de to vriskame pouthena...ti diaolo 3 games se kathe magazi fernoun? anyway...

 

nai de tha ksexaso na paro to singstar....

[privateer]

The PS3 GPU is not fast enough yet

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32159

[666]

αν οι κονσόλες του μέλλοντος δεν σπάσουν θα περάσουμε πολλύ δύσκολες ώρες με αυτά που λένε οι αναλυτές ότι τα παιχνίδια θα κάνουν +15Ε και αυτά που ακούγονται ότι θα απαγορέψει η sony την πώλυση παιχνιδιών μεταχειρισμένων παιχνιδιών μας βλέπω να πέρνουμε δύο παιχνίδια το χρόνο.(ένα τα χριστούγεννα και ένα στα γεννέθλια)

[BlizardBill]

Ψέματα φαίνεται να είναι όλα όσα που ακούγονται για τα μεταχειρισμένα games ... και το xbox360 σχεδόν έχει σπάσει.

The PS3 GPU is not fast enough yet

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32159

Δηλαδή ότι έχουμε δει μέχρι τώρα σε όλα τα den-kits, ίσως είναι σε αρκετά χειρότερο hardware από το τελικό?

Τεσπα, το site δεν είναι και πολύ αξιόπιστο, οπότε ας περιμένουμε μέχρι Αύγουστο-Σεπτέμβριο που θα δούμε σχεδόν έτοιμα τα παιχνίδια στα κανονικό ps3.

[p3tran]

Ψέματα φαίνεται να είναι όλα όσα που ακούγονται για τα μεταχειρισμένα games ... και το xbox360 σχεδόν έχει σπάσει.

 

Δηλαδή ότι έχουμε δει μέχρι τώρα σε όλα τα den-kits' date=' ίσως είναι σε αρκετά χειρότερο hardware από το τελικό?

Τεσπα, [b']το site δεν είναι και πολύ αξιόπιστο[/b], οπότε ας περιμένουμε μέχρι Αύγουστο-Σεπτέμβριο που θα δούμε σχεδόν έτοιμα τα παιχνίδια στα κανονικό ps3.

 

o slay δεν μπορεσε να μου βρει ενα αρθρο που να ελεγε ψεμματα στο Inquirer οταν και αυτος ελεγε τα ιδια. (οχι αξιοπιστο)

 

μηπως εσυ μπορεις καλυτερα?

 

 

 

ο ανθρωπος περιγραφει το hardware και πως αυτο "παταει" στις διαφορες εκδοσεις, οπως τα ειδε στο ταξιδι του στην ιαπωνια.

 

μηπως θες να μας πεις οτι τα βγαζει απο την κοιλια του?

 

 

 

...On a different note the current ones are running the RSX core at 420MHz with 550 expected for launch. Memory is set at 600MHz with 700 hoped for as final.

αντε να δουμε..

[privateer]

PS3 hardware slow and broken

 

Someone screwed up so badly it looks like it will relegate the console to second place behind the 360. All the devs I talked to were lukewarm on the 360 architecture but universally negative on the PS3. Revelations like this go a long way to explain why you keep hearing about simmering problems from the Sony devs.

 

You end up with a console with half the triangle setup rate of the 360, a crippled CPU that is a bitch to program, and tools that are atrocious compared to the 360. To make matters worse, you have an arrogant set of execs telling us that twice the price is worth it for half the power, a year late. If it isn't already too late, Sony had better do something about this recto-cranial inversion or it may very well sink the console. µ

 

http://www.theinq.net/?article=32171

[Narayan]

Analyze This: E3 2006 Aftermath -- Redemption for Sony?

 

They are the professional analysts whose day job it is to research, follow, advise their clients, and opine to the media about the gaming business. In this monthly column, Gamasutra offers up a timely question pertaining to the business side of the video game industry and let the analysts offer their thoughts directly to you. Their opinions are their own and will (probably) not necessarily agree with one another.

 

In the latest of what we hope will be a regular monthly column, "Analyze This" cuts right to the chase: Rather than reporting on a subject, and throwing in quotes by analysts to support or refute a point, we'll present a topical question and let the analysts themselves offer their thoughts.

 

Question: Everybody already knows about the positive buzz that Nintendo and Microsoft had at E3 2006, but what were some of the other, perhaps under-reported, things that you noticed at E3 -- good or bad? And speaking of bad, how bad do you think things are for Sony and its PS3? How critical is it for a company to have a good showing at E3?

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060602/wen_01.shtml#

[privateer]

Ten Reasons Why You Don't Need a PlayStation 3

 

10. God of War 2 will run on the PS2, not PS3. So will Scarface: The World is Yours, and other highly anticipated games coming out in the next year. The implication should be clear: developers like the PS2 platform and want to continue churning out quality titles for it.

 

9. Grand Theft Auto IV will be on the Xbox 360. Yes, there will be some exclusive PS3 titles, like Metal Gear Solid 4, but Sony no longer has a "Stranglehold" (pun intended) on top-shelf titles.

 

8. You already bought your Xbox 360. Okay, so maybe this only applies to about 2 million or so gamers in North America at this point. But don't underestimate Microsoft's year-long head start, which gives Redmond more time to recruit developers and build games for its new platform.

 

7. If you want a motion sensor controller, you'll want to get a Nintendo Wii. Sony has caught flack recently for outfitting its controllers with motion sensors, which reeks of a copy-cat move. Gamers who want a truly unique controller will go with Wii; for the basics, they'll stick with 360. PS3's controller will fall somewhere in the middle - and that's usually where the cracks are.

 

6. The Sony Network Platform is vapor, while Xbox Live is real. Again, Sony is taking a hit for being late to a party (online gaming/digital distribution) and looking like a copy-cat (which is usually Microsoft's specialty, as Netscape and others will tell you). Meanwhile, Microsoft is enhancing Xbox Live and adding features like Xbox Live Arcade. Sony may deliver a strong online service with PS3, but no one has seen it yet.

 

5. PS3 is too expensive. I know, I know - the premium version of the console is only $100 more than the 360, and $100 ain't what it used to be. I mean, a Ben Franklin will only fill up the tank of your SUV twice these days. But will you really spend more than $1,000 combined for two next-generation consoles that will play most of the same games?

 

4. PS2 and Xbox games are getting a whole lot cheaper, so why rush out to buy $60 next-generation games that you'll finish in a week?

 

3. You don't even know what Blu-ray is, and you don't have enough money leftover from your gaming purchases to buy that HD television.

 

2. You hate Linux almost as much as Windows, and you don't have the time to create your own playable content for PS3, because you're logging 50-plus hours a week on World of WarCraft between efforts to score a date with that hot T.G.I.Friday's waitress whom you think is flirting with you.

 

1. You're a PC gamer and couldn't give a damn about console gaming.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104486

[ProEvoFan]

privateer afto to teleytaio den nomizo na anikei se ayto to topic!

[Exoskeletor]

XAxaxaxa oi poio ilithioi 10 logoi pou mono blakes den tha paroun to ps3 gia aytous. Etsi eprepe na legotan

[ProEvoFan]

enas k enas einai exoskeletor mi to psaxneis...na doume pou allou tha ftasoun oi xboxakides..oxi ta paidia edo..aftoi pou ta grafoun k ta dimosieyoun kiolas gia na diavazei olos o planitis to ilithio skeptiko tous! perniounte k gia eksypnoi ypotithete, giati xaideyoun ta aytakia ton katoxon 360 katalaves? tous lene oti theloun na akousoun k tous fanatizoun...kati san to kokkalh!!! mono paidakia peithoun ta papagalakia!!!

 

 

PS: re paidia o protathliths simera grafei tpt gia to basket...? se kapoia gonitsa kati pire to mati mou...epaize o olibiakos xtes etsi? ;-)

 

pao gia bala tora c ya to vrady!!!

[Narayan]

Αντί να επιδίδεστε σε πρόσαψη χαρακτηρισμών, μπορείτε να αμφισβητίσετε δια επιχειρημάτων την εγκυρότητα των δέκα λόγων που αναφέρονται;

 

Με εξαίρεση το 9 και το 7 τα υπόλοιπα δεν μου φαίνονται παράλογα σαν επιχειρήματα κατά της αγοράς PS3.

[Daredevil]

Sony Bundles PS2 With PS3

Report from Japan suggests that a mini PS2 will be included in every PS3.

by Anoop Gantayat

 

June 5, 2006 - A surprising report has emerged from Japan's Ultra One monthly technology magazine. The magazine's July issue reports that Sony will be achieving backwards compatibility on the PlayStation 3 not through software emulation, as previously announced, but through physical hardware.

The magazine states that the PS3 hardware, in its current form, includes the core PlayStation 2 chipset. This presumably means that initial PS3 units will include the single Emotion Engine (the PS2 CPU) and Graphic Synthesizer (the PS2 graphics chip) combo chip that powers the slim model PS2. Of course, including the extra hardware drives up costs. The magazine adds that Sony plans on removing the PS2 chipset from future revisions of the PS3 hardware once it has finished development of a proper software-based PS2 emulator. Such a removal would help bring down costs for the system.

Sony has repeatedly stated that PS2 software would run on the PS3 through software emulation, leaving many to believe that the company had developed a powerful emulator for the older hardware. This would have been a particularly impressive feat, considering that even the PlayStation 2 originally used a combination of hardware and software to maintain backwards compatibility with original generation PlayStation games.

If the Ultra One report is true, the use of hardware emulation casts some doubts on what kind of visual updates we can expect for PlayStation 2 games. PlayStation games saw a few marginal upgrades when running on the PlayStation 2 due to the PlayStation graphics chip being emulated entirely through software running on the PS2's Graphics Synthesizer.

On the other hand, hardware emulation pretty much guarantees that every game that runs on the current PS2 will do so on the PS3.

A few other revelations appear in the Ultra One report, an investigative story into the reasons for the PS3's high price point. Izumi Kawanishi, head of Sony's Software Platform Development Division, commented to the magazine that one difference between the PS2 and the PS3 is that the PS3, as it was announced, is "nothing more than just the basic system." Sony is considering releasing models with larger volume hard disks and upgraded network features in the future. However, Kawanishi noted, Sony won't be changing CPU clock speed or memory amounts, as all PS3s have to run the same games.

The PS3 comes equipped with, in addition to a default hard disk, a "large amount of flash memory," the magazine reveals. This is used to house the operating system and all future system updates. Based on the wording in the magazine, it seems that the hard disk is to be used exclusively for multimedia content and will not contain any system features; users will, after all, be able to swap the built in hard drive out with any standard drive they pick up at a computer hardware store.

The magazine also provides an assurance about the PS3's compatibility with its own games. The PS2 lost compatibility with older titles as new models were released featuring updated chip designs. This won't be a problem with the PS3, as the magazine reveals that in the event that problems are discovered following an updated chip design, the system will be able to connect Online to download any required patches, which will then be stored on the hard disk.

Finally, the magazine gives a solid price estimate for the high-end PS3 model in Japan. Sony officially lists the price as "open," meaning retailers will have to determine their own pricing, but Ultra One says that the price is "expected" to be 73,000 yen.

Who exactly is expecting this price is anyone's guess, as the magazine doesn't give specifics. We'll wait for official word from Sony on that price point, and on the other details in the Ultra One article, before considering this report confirmed.